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Identify this snake.

Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:30 am
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17847 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:30 am
Sorry for the shaky hands. Found it in the road in front of my house. Western rat?


Posted by StonewallJack
Member since Apr 2008
699 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:42 am to
I am learning with everyone else on here.

First thing I try to do is determine if it is non venomous. It looks like round pupils so one I'd let live

That's all I got
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2874 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:44 am to
I do believe western rat is the correct answer
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 11:07 am
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7887 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:47 am to
Which one do you want identified? There are two right? Top is a rat. Bottom is a water snake of some kind.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166529 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:14 am to
looks to be a baby copperhead rat snake.
Posted by Marlo Stanfield
Member since Aug 2008
2077 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:17 am to
Rat snakes
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99212 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:16 pm to
GDCK

Courtesy,

OT
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64248 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:17 pm to
juvenile rat snake, different color pattern than the adults.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15243 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:20 pm to
Yeah, it's a rat snake.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54942 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 4:47 pm to
Yeah, rat snake.

Not that it pertains to the thread, but I just saw a big snapping turtle on the side of the road that got ran over. Looked to be as big around as a five gallon bucket. Hate to see it because it is a new road that cuts through a bottom between two creeks. It won't be the last.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7144 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 4:48 pm to
Either a gray rat or Western rat depending on your location. Western rats tend to get that orangey-brown color as adults like the bottom photo, whereas the juvies are usually colored like your top photo. Gray rats tend to retain closer to that juvie color. Generally gray rats are east of the river and Westerns are west of it, but there are areas you get both. The simplest way I’ve heard of to differentiate if it’s a toss-up is that gray rats have black tongues and Westerns have pink/red.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36764 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 7:52 am to
Bad snek
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
In the woods
Member since Oct 2009
1252 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:18 am to
Top snake is Ratasnakious Onconcretious.

Bottom snake is Ratasnakious Onpinetreous.

Same species, different subspecies.

Both are protected species of the Outdoor Board, molest at peril of high fine.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21598 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:44 pm to
2 different snakes. Top is a rat snake. My eductaed attempt is a grey rat snake.

Bottom is a water snake. Diamond back if I had to pinpoint it.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3171 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:13 pm to
Cottonhead
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