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re: Would you be happy with 11-3?
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:49 am to Spaceman Spiff
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:49 am to Spaceman Spiff
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GTFO. Their Oline was much more a capable blocking group than ours could ever dream to be last year.
I understand what you are saying, but, (And i haven't checked on this so I could be wrong) but we probably had better recruits than they did. Maybe not. Was our OLine good last year? no. But, was it the players, or was it the coaches? Was it both? I mean, while our OL has not been elite (Or great, or even really good) for some time, the performance seemed to drop off significantly last year. I would say it was blocking scheme. They just didn't fit what Pittman wanted/needed to do. Hopefully that will change with the new guys coming in. But is it the kids job to play a scheme that they are not suited to, or the coaches to fit the scheme to the players they have?
Early in the year, (In particular) we struggled mightily. When the coaches switched to a more zone blocking scheme we did much better.
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:18 am to DawgsLife
The O-Line troubles last year isn't all on the players.
It was a numbers game, the box was stacked on every running down, and Eason wasn't consistent enough to make the defense pay.
If Eason and the receivers can consistently go Air Raid on greedy defenses stacking the box, and change playcalls at the line, our O Line will start to look a whole lot better.
Until then, you have 5 guys trying to block 8.
It was a numbers game, the box was stacked on every running down, and Eason wasn't consistent enough to make the defense pay.
If Eason and the receivers can consistently go Air Raid on greedy defenses stacking the box, and change playcalls at the line, our O Line will start to look a whole lot better.
Until then, you have 5 guys trying to block 8.
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:20 am to DawgsLife
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You tried to change the years that were being discussed. If that isn't moving the goal posts then I don't know what is!
I used the same years you used, but even if I didn't for whatever reason, the point would remain the same.
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You also acted like the program was in some great decline.
It's not an act when it's real. You didn't refute any of the facts I provided that prove the program was in a decline. You did bring up 2015, which is part of the evidence proving my point. Why don't you bring up the 2017 NFL draft while you are at it?
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:22 am to Peter Buck
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Whose fault was that though?
Ours for being stuck with a true freshman qb who wasn't a dual threat in a spread system.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 3:00 pm to deeprig9
Agreed!
Posted on 6/16/17 at 3:07 pm to djsdawg
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I used the same years you used, but even if I didn't for whatever reason, the point would remain the same.
I was talking about this:
and the number would be bigger if we do the split at 08/09.
You don't make the numbers worse by changing the years. If you are going to do that, then just pick out his worst years and use them and show us all how bad Richt really was.
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It's not an act when it's real. You didn't refute any of the facts I provided that prove the program was in a decline. You did bring up 2015, which is part of the evidence proving my point. Why don't you bring up the 2017 NFL draft while you are at it?
The last two years he won 10 games! That is not a decline. That was improvement!
Two years in a row we won 10 games after admittedly being down. However, we would have killed for a 10 win season last year.
What has the 2017 draft got to do with anything? Very few starters left, so very few people were drafted. We had 4-5 more players that were eligible to leave and decided to stay (Bellamy, Carter, Michel and Cubb right off the top of my head) that would have been drafted. Maybe I am misunderstanding you?
Posted on 6/16/17 at 3:09 pm to deeprig9
We were also trying to do s very advanced blocking scheme that we really didn't have the talent or experience with... once they backed off, the line was serviceable
Posted on 6/16/17 at 3:12 pm to DawgsLife
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and the number would be bigger if we do the split at 08/09. You don't make the numbers worse by changing the years. If you are going to do that, then just pick out his worst years and use them and show us all how bad Richt really was.
Well, that's a hypothetical split rather than one I actually did.
With 15 years, you either do the 7/8 split or the 8/7 split. Or you can forget the first year as a transition season, and do a 7/7 split with 02-08 and 09-15.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 3:27 pm to DawgsLife
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The last two years he won 10 games! That is not a decline. That was improvement! Two years in a row we won 10 games after admittedly being down. However, we would have killed for a 10 win season last year.
I am talking about the numbers I provided that proved the decline of "champion" richt to "struggle to finish ranked" richt.
You keep on ignoring how 2015 was not close to as good as 2014. It was an obvious decline.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 3:28 pm to Peter Buck
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once they backed off, the line was serviceable
Until they played uf.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 3:44 pm to djsdawg
No, UF they tried to do that cutesie shite and they ate our lunch.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 3:53 pm to Peter Buck
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No, UF they tried to do that cutesie shite and they ate our lunch.
So they randomly picked games to do cutsie shite?
Posted on 6/16/17 at 4:13 pm to djsdawg
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Well, that's a hypothetical split rather than one I actually did.
That's true. I actually think the 7/7 split might be best because of the point you mentioned. Transition year.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 4:16 pm to djsdawg
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I am talking about the numbers I provided that proved the decline of "champion" richt to "struggle to finish ranked" richt.
There is very little doubt that Richt lost some fire for a few years. Complacency, or whatever. I am thinking he was secure and allowed himself to lose the fire to excel. It's very difficult to maintain that fire to be great. That' what separates the all-time greats from the greats. It happened to a lot of coaches. I guess they just get burned out, a bit with the year round demands.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 4:20 pm to djsdawg
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You keep on ignoring how 2015 was not close to as good as 2014. It was an obvious decline.
I honestly don't mean to. We won 10 games. In an era when teams lose to the likes of Vandy and GT (us), and Arkansas, A&M and Ole Miss (Alabama) I understand that if you win 10 games you have put a pretty good body of work together and did what needed to be done. Do I realize that we got blown out by Alabama and Florida? yes. But we won 10 games.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 4:22 pm to djsdawg
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No, UF they tried to do that cutesie shite and they ate our lunch.
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So they randomly picked games to do cutsie shite?
No. They saw what the teams did, and put the blocking scheme they felt would work out on the field. Problem was, they never considered that our OL could not execute that type of blocking scheme. With the added bulk we should have more success this year....hopefully.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:26 pm to DawgsLife
It's not the bulk... we were trying to block down a gap and a half against NFL grade lineman and then pulling to seal. UGA couldn't do that against UFs lineman.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:52 pm to Peter Buck
What did we try to do vs Vandy?
Posted on 6/17/17 at 4:55 am to Peter Buck
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It's not the bulk... we were trying to block down a gap and a half against NFL grade lineman and then pulling to seal. UGA couldn't do that against UFs lineman.
I would defer to you. I was not a lineman, and while I know a bit about blocking schemes, I definitely don' know as much as you. I know enough to get myself in trouble.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 6:10 am to Peter Buck
How do you block down a half gap?
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