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Will Richt/Schotty mismanage Eason?
Posted on 11/23/15 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 11/23/15 at 7:01 pm
My opinion is that Jacob Eason has the ability to start and play well in 2016 if he is allowed to move. Like Aaron Murray in HS, Eason is inexperienced as a pocket passer but very effective when rolling out. When Murray became the UGA started Richt and Bobo restricted his movement and made him play in a straitjacket. For his first two years, Murray struggled greatly.
Georgia cannot afford not to utilize all of its quarterback's skill. Eason is tall and he can evolve as a good pocket passer but he can't be a statue.
Georgia cannot afford not to utilize all of its quarterback's skill. Eason is tall and he can evolve as a good pocket passer but he can't be a statue.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 8:17 pm to Whiznot
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For the first 2 years Murray struggled greatly
WTF are you talking about?In 2010 he passed for 3000+ yards and had 24 TD's and 8 picks (with a shite Oline BTW) In 2011 he led the league with 34 td passes and threw for another 3000+ yards.By any yardstick,thats far from struggling.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 8:19 pm to RD Dawg
There is a menagerie of alts and 80 IQ mouth breathers posting on this site....
Posted on 11/23/15 at 8:27 pm to Peter Buck
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made him play in a straight jacket
Honest to God there is an absolute alternate reality for some of these people.
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 11/23/15 at 8:28 pm to RD Dawg
Murray struggled with interceptions, fumbles and games lost. Yards don't tell the whole story.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 8:32 pm to Whiznot
Me no accept me de ocrity. Me only aksept win. Me have standard of nothing less than ecsellence... Unless it is my own miserable life.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 8:42 pm to Whiznot
He had3 35 TD passes in 2011...ELEVEN more than the next closest QB. He had 3 to 1 TD to Int rate his FRESHMAN year. Any coach/team in the country would kill for those numbers from a freshman QB in a P5 conference.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:33 am to Whiznot
Maybe, maybe not.
My question is....if Eason comes who the hell is he going to throw it to?
My question is....if Eason comes who the hell is he going to throw it to?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:53 am to DaveyDownerDawg
On campus? Blaze, Jackson, IM, and Godwin.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:58 am to Whiznot
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Murray struggled with interceptions, fumbles and games lost. Yards don't tell the whole story.
Did you not happen to see the defenses we had during his time? I guess we'll ignore his final 2 years when he was terrific since we seem to be talking about his early seasons.
2010- Freshman
@#24 SC- L, 6-17 14/21, 192 yard, 0/0
Our defense game up 182 yards and 2 touchdowns to Lattimore. His numbers weren't great, but it was his 2nd game ever. Our run defense really let us down, but he could've done more.
#12 Arky- L, 24-31 15/27, 253 yards, 1/1
Ok yardage. However, our defense gave up nearly 400 yards to Mallet including giving up the GW touchdown with under a minute left. Once again, this loss falls heavily on our defense.
@ #2 AU- L, 31-49 15/28, 273 yards, 3/0.
By comparison, Cam had 148, 2/1. Murray played great this game and put us way ahead early. However, the defense gave up 460 yards and we committed 10 penalties. We rushed for 81 yards. He was basically forced to try to win the game himself...against the best team in the country and eventual national champ at their place.
#25 UCF- L, 6-10 21/38, 198 yards, 0/2
This is the only game his freshman season where you can really say he stunk up the joint. This was just such a lackluster game in all phases it's still mind boggling to think about.
2011- Sophomore
#5 Boise- L, 21-35 16/29, 236 yards, 2/1
Pretty good numbers, not great. They had 11 more first downs than we did and we doubled their penalty yardage. None of the that falls on Murray. He certainly didn't play outstanding, but he played well and our defense gave up 35 points to the 5th ranked team. You could make a case he should've done more, but you can't pin this game on him.
#12 SC- L, 42-45 19/29, 248 yards, 4/1
Excellent numbers, and also threw for a 2pt conversion. Our defense gave up 7 and we also had a stupid turnover that led to 7. In all fairness, that pick was returned for 7 and he also had a costly fumble. He wasn't flawless, but he certainly played well enough for us to win. We gave up 176 yards to Lattimore. Anytime your team scores 45 points, you should win, period. He made some mistakes, but again this game is not on his shoulders.
#20 AU- W, 45-7 14/18, 224 yards, 4/0
Outstanding game by Murray and our defense came to play. Easy win.
@ #23 GT- W, 31-17 19/29, 252 yards, 4/1
Another great stat line that resulted in a win.
#1 LSU- L, 10-42 16/40, 163 yards, 1/2
Bad stats for Murray, although he had 2 sure touchdowns in the first half hit receivers in the hands and were dropped. That's not his fault. We gave up 200 yards on the ground and allowed a ST touchdown to the team ranked #1 all season long. It would've taken an A+ effort in all phases of the game to win and we obviously didn't. But I definitely don't see how Murray would be to blame for this loss. We simply lost to a better team.
#17 MSU- L, 30-33 (3OT) 20/32, 288 yards, 2/2
Not great numbers, not bad either. We were up 7 with 2 minutes in the game and our defense blew it. Our kicker missed 2 FGs that would've won the game.
People like you blame losses on whoever you feel like at the time. Murray, bobo, richt, etc. It is incredible that someone even claiming to be a casual "fan" would say murray struggled with "games lost" during his career. His first 2 years our record (against ranked teams) was bad but when you actually LOOK at them game by game, he was truly to blame for only 1 of them, and it was his freshman year.
I honestly think that some of you on here will never, ever be happy with UGA football until we go 15-0.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:16 am to WG_Dawg
It's pretty obvious that our biggest problem over the last 4-5 years (until this year of course) was our defense. Sure we got shut down in a few games offensively...but not as many as we lost in high scoring games.
If we had a quality defense over the last 7 or 8 years the story would be different.
If we had a quality defense over the last 7 or 8 years the story would be different.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:16 am to WG_Dawg
15-0 with all shut outs and no turnovers.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:17 am to WG_Dawg
I see where he is coming from. There is no denying that Murray was a turnover machine in 2011, and there was noise about the o struggles in 2010, so much so that mama Murray was calling out our o strategy in favor of plant high schools spread offense. Thankfully bobo got that memo. Don't think cbs will, so we best move on to a modernized oc.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:17 am to Whiznot
Oh, btw,
Career HS rushing stats:
Murray: 124 rushes for 1,189 yards and 14 TDs
Eason: 74 rushes for 52 yards and 4 TDs
I swear some of you make shite up just to hear yourself type.
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Jacob Eason has the ability to start and play well in 2016 if he is allowed to move. Like Aaron Murray in HS, Eason is inexperienced as a pocket passer but very effective when rolling out
Career HS rushing stats:
Murray: 124 rushes for 1,189 yards and 14 TDs
Eason: 74 rushes for 52 yards and 4 TDs
I swear some of you make shite up just to hear yourself type.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:18 am to WG_Dawg
Eason will already be more talented than Murray.
Murray currently is the career passing leader in SEC history.
I'd like it to be without Schottenheimer, but we'll see on that.
Murray currently is the career passing leader in SEC history.
I'd like it to be without Schottenheimer, but we'll see on that.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:23 am to WG_Dawg
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Oh, btw,
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Jacob Eason has the ability to start and play well in 2016 if he is allowed to move. Like Aaron Murray in HS, Eason is inexperienced as a pocket passer but very effective when rolling out
Career HS rushing stats:
Murray: 124 rushes for 1,189 yards and 14 TDs
Eason: 74 rushes for 52 yards and 4 TDs
I swear some of you make shite up just to hear yourself type.
Passing on a rollout. Park was great at it too. Something Uga Doesnt utilize enough of Imo.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:25 am to djsdawg
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Passing on a rollout.
I get that part, but dude made it sound like our coaches absolutely DEMANDED that murray stay in teh pocket no matter what. We'd call some designed rollouts and that's fine. But OP made it out to be like if murray left the pocket he'd be benched. He moved out of the pocket plenty, that's just a skillset he has, which is further visible watching his film when compared to lambert or greene who can't move for shite.
I don't think we'll call a lot of designed run plays for JE but I'm sure we'll give him the freedom to move around if he needs to.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:34 am to DaveyDownerDawg
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My question is....if Eason comes who the hell is he going to throw it to?
I think LSU may have some free guys coming up
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:29 am to WG_Dawg
WD Dawg, I said nothing about rushing. I was calling for the inclusion of using roll-out passes whenever that is the QB's main strength.
Murray was inexperienced in the pocket and he lacked size yet Richt and Bobo rarely let him roll out. The few times Murray did roll out he was deadly accurate. In the pocket, Murray was less effective and suffered a lot of sacks, tipped balls and turnovers.
Eason is good throwing on the run. I hope no one takes that away from him.
Murray was inexperienced in the pocket and he lacked size yet Richt and Bobo rarely let him roll out. The few times Murray did roll out he was deadly accurate. In the pocket, Murray was less effective and suffered a lot of sacks, tipped balls and turnovers.
Eason is good throwing on the run. I hope no one takes that away from him.
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