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re: We have to give Kirby time
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:57 pm to Dawgsontop34
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:57 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Yes, we are and it is arguably the most important position group in all of college football. Offensive line.
Again, 3 returning starters from a 10 win team. 2 of which are all SEC. They won 10 games with a QB who was not a dynamic passer and with their top RB out most of the season. They are not devoid. Every team goes through this. You lose a few guys and then coach up the next group. If they lost all 5 starters and had none waiting in the wings, you'd have a point. There are some highly recruited guys stepping in who were recruited by all the big schools. Maybe they aren't as good as advertised. Coach em up and scheme for what you have... If you can't adjust, it is your fault as a coach...
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:00 pm to Peter Buck
That 10 win team got blown the eff out in every meaningful game against every team of significance. It was embarassing. Do you remember Bama? Do you remember Faton Bauta?
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:02 pm to Peter Buck
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returning starters from a 10 win team. 2 of which are all SEC. They won 10 game
The OL stunk last year.
Pyke was so good last year he was benched. He didn't make any all-sec team.
Kub somehow made one 2nd team last year but it really wasn't deserved.
We won ten due in large part to our easy schedule that involved no qbs of quality.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:05 pm to DawgsLife
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He left it lacking in experienced talent at key positions. How about that? That I can agree with. But the same could be said about every other team? Do you seriously believe that other teams are not in the same boat? Which key positions are we lacking at? I can agree with depth...but we are not devoid at any position.
Nope. Not all teams have weak OL, weak WR Corp, and a weak db Corp like we do. On top of that, we are very young at qb and the front 7. This roster ain't half as loaded as some of you think.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:12 pm to Hobnailboot
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That 10 win team got blown the eff out in every meaningful game against every team of significance.
You mean like.....yesterday?
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:18 pm to djsdawg
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Nope. Not all teams have weak OL, weak WR Corp, and a weak db Corp like we do. On top of that, we are very young at qb and the front 7. This roster ain't half as loaded as some of you think.
Tell you what. Go and check and see how many of the players you are talking about were recruited by Smart while at Alabama.
The secondary was ranked #1 in the country last year. Yes, I know we didn't play any strong passing teams. but there are a lot of teams that don't play strong passing teams that didn't finish #1. And if they are so bad they should have gotten torched by only decent teams to the point we would not finish #1. You are projecting how they look this year on last years team, and you can't do that.
Minus Mitchell we essentially have the same WR corp we had last year....and won 10 games with a weak passing attack and a depleted run game.
Our OL is decent....without depth, but decent.
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very young at qb a
And yet we are head and shoulders better at QB. You would agree with that, wouldn't you? And that alone should improve the passing game.
Face it...we should be better in the passing game AND the running game.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:19 pm to Hobnailboot
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That 10 win team got blown the eff out in every meaningful game
We were told this was because of poor coaching and preparation. Now it's not?
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:19 pm to djsdawg
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The OL stunk last year.
Pyke was so good last year he was benched. He didn't make any all-sec team.
Kub somehow made one 2nd team last year but it really wasn't deserved.
We won ten due in large part to our easy schedule that involved no qbs of quality.
Wow. I can't figure out how Richt won 10 games last year. No QB. No OL. Our best RB hurt. No WR. No DL. No Secondary. The only place we were decent was LB and kicker.
This post was edited on 9/25/16 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:22 pm to Peter Buck
This board is like a bunch of Democrats. 8 years after taking office Obama was still blaming Bush for everything.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:27 pm to DawgsLife
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figure out how Richt won 10 games last year. No QB. No OL. Our best RB hurt. No WR. No DL. No Secondary. The only place we were decent was LB and kicker.
We faced a bunch of bad teams than didn't know how to complete a forward pass. Last years team would be 1-3 so far this year.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:30 pm to BranchDawg
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were told this was because of poor coaching and preparation. Now it's not?
Not with this roster.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:32 pm to djsdawg
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We faced a bunch of bad teams than didn't know how to complete a forward pass. Last years team would be 1-3 so far this year.
Who have we played this year that is better than the teams we played last year?
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Last years team would be 1-3 so far this year.
You do know we are a hairs breadth away from 1-3 right now, right?
It's always easy to sit back and say what last years team would be right now if they were playing. But, shoot.....I think they would be undefeated. See how easy that was?
And...are you saying this years team is better than last years team?
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:33 pm to djsdawg
"Last years team would be 1-3 so far this year."
I'm confused. Was last years team better or worse?
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Not with this roster.
I'm confused. Was last years team better or worse?
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:34 pm to DawgsLife
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are head and shoulders better at QB. You would agree with that, wouldn't you? And that alone should improve the passing game.
Talent wise but not experience wise. That pick 6 didn't make us better. Those WR drops really reduce the positives of better throws.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:40 pm to DawgsLife
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secondary was ranked #1 in the country last year. Yes, I know we didn't play any strong passing teams. but there are a lot of teams that don't play strong passing teams that didn't finish #1. And if they are so bad they should have gotten torched by only decent teams to the point we would n
They were 7th in pass d efficiency.
They did get torched by the only decent passers last year. I doubt any team played a group close to as pathetic at passing as we did.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:40 pm to djsdawg
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Talent wise but not experience wise.
Absolutely. Bu all the experience in the world won't help you if you have no talent.
Honestly. Who do you want to see at QB right now. Eason or Lambert?
Which one gives us a better passing attack and gives us the best chance to win?
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Those WR drops really reduce the positives of better throws.
Again you nailed it. I still don't understand why we are having all the dropped passes. I Tennessee had a ton yesterday, too. I don't know if they are taking their eyes off the ball or what is going on. Part of it is their lack of confidence in their hands. They are letting the ball get in to their bodies and trying to trap it. But that can't explain all the drops. Imagine how good Eason would be looking if we could eliminate half the dropped balls. Hopefully we can get 2-3 really good WRs for him to throw to next year.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:44 pm to DawgsLife
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Mitchell we essentially have the same WR corp we had last year....and won 10 games with a weak passing attack and a depleted run game. Our OL is decent....without depth, but decent.
We don't have a go to WR like Mitchell and our OL is not decent. It's our worst OL since 2003.
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:45 pm to djsdawg
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They were 7th in pass d efficiency.
They did get torched by the only decent passers last year. I doubt any team played a group close to as pathetic at passing as we did.
I understand....and agree that they were not the best secondary in the nation last year. But they certainly were not as inept as they are looking right now, either. Defensive backs were always taught to turn and run with a receiver if you were in danger of being passed....but watch the receivers eyes and when he looks back for the ball, you look back and then turn and make the play. I don't see defensive backs looking back at all anymore. Not just at Georgia but any of the teams. Young players aren't wrapping up their tackles, but going for the highlight reel hits, too. Fundamentals are a thing of the past.
Of course, the whole game of football has changed since I played, too!
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:47 pm to djsdawg
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We don't have a go to WR like Mitchell
I honestly don't know. Every time I start to feel secure and good about Godwin he does something dumb. Chigbu has absolutely no confidence in his hands and McKenzie is losing his confidence fast. I am hoping Ridley can turn that group around. Mitchell stayed healthy last year, but before that he was hurt all the time. I really liked him, though.
This post was edited on 9/25/16 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 9/25/16 at 7:04 pm to Peter Buck
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Catching the football, tackling, being in position, basic blocking technique. That is all coaching. You can win with a well disciplined and well coached team.
It's worked well for programs like Boise State
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