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re: Three SEC East teams in the Elite 8.

Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:02 pm to
But we won't be getting our shite together because we are Georgia + McGarity which equals fricked
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42435 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:05 pm to
When I talk about buying in in all levels, that definitely includes the fans. Making the tickets free for the students was definitely helpful, but we need to be loud throughout the games and make it look like a fun place to play.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25869 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:58 pm to
Basketball success is a perfectly attainable goal that UGA has fricked up for years.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32736 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:07 pm to
Agree, so we need to hire a coach to make us do that
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

Basketball success is a perfectly attainable goal that UGA has fricked up for years.
Sadly that applies to numerous sports
Posted by WhopperDawg
Member since Aug 2013
3073 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:20 pm to
This is just like politics -

It is the economy stupid.

In our case, it is the coach stupid. That is not debatable and challenge anyone to do it.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12412 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:48 am to
Oh, I feel if we hired an ex high school coach who inherited a very talented team when a good coach left and then left it when the talent thinned out due to his brash persona... so brash the AD stepped in because players were going to leave mass exudus style... a guy who only had a few years coaching at the college level... oh... I bet you would be first on board to celebrate that hire...
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:34 am to
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Just goes to show you we really aren't that far from being a final four team under Mark Fox.


Holy shite... how did this not get any replies... it's one of two things:

a) One of the greatest satirical/sarcastic remarks ever made on this board

or

b) One of the dumbest statements I may have ever seen made on this board, conveying a fundamental misunderstanding as to how winning and losing basketball games in the tournament works

Maybe you can clarify for us?
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30535 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:36 am to
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how did this not get any replies


its best to ignore him
Posted by wizatlanta
Cumming, GA
Member since Jan 2014
335 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:49 am to
Watching these truly great teams shows just how poor Ga's basketball program really is. Every few years we come up with ONE player who could be on a winning team but these teams have 5 or 6 or 7.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12412 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:17 am to
Not sure where you get that. UGA played these teams pretty damn well. If you gave Kentucky's roster to any other one of these coaches and they are in the elite 8... including Fox. Frankly, though, I think UGA is by far the least talented vs the other 3 teams. I think USC would be closer to UGAs talent than KY or UF other than one superstar. Nothing against the rest of USC as they have gelled and are playing well together, but Thornwell is playing like a superstar.

UGA needs better basketball players. You need some 4 stars to complement a 3 star who gets a lot,better in college...i.e. Maten... because not many 3 stars are going to be Maten's and you need a lot of good players on a team, even if you have a superstar.

In any case, I was wondering if Fox was just a bad recruiter, so I went back and did some more reading. It seems like Fox had a reputation as a gifted recruiter. He had more NBA players and more success at Nevada than he has had at UGA. What does that tell us?
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
6348 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:56 am to
It tells you that when he was hired, he had no connections in the state of Georgia for recruiting, and it really hasnt gotten much better in 8 years. That was the biggest knock on him when he was hired. From Kansas. Coached at Washington, Kansas State, and Nevada. No ties to the southeast.

I expect us to get out recruited in state by the blue bloods, but we are getting killed by Alabama, Auburn, Florida State, and other schools that have no business coming in and taking all the good players in our state.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12412 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:02 am to
The guy took in NBA talent at Nevada and won a lot of games. Comes here and gets 3 NBA players in 8 years. You are gonna fricking tell me it's because he was not used to the area? Martin was coaching High School in Miami when Fox was recruiting lottery picks. Martin had no ties to SE recruiting other than being a High School coach. I mean, what's really happening here?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32736 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:06 am to
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He had more NBA players and more success at Nevada than he has had at UGA. What does that tell us?


That he piggy backed on Trent johnson's players, and once they were all gone, Nevada got worse under fox. They went from sweet 16 under Johnson to losing in the cbi under fox.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:08 am to
If memory serves he inherited most of the high-end talent at Nevada. Had diminishing returns and a drop in overall talent. Came to UGA where he elevated the program to what he left at Nevada. I think thats his water level.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30535 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:14 am to
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I think thats his high water level.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12412 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:14 am to
From what I read, he was integral in the recruiting of a lot of those good players. It's just odd how he got bad at recruiting at an alleged more prestigious school.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:20 am to
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From what I read, he was integral in the recruiting of a lot of those good players. It's just odd how he got bad at recruiting at an alleged more prestigious school.



I don't know. It's different being an assistant with a recruiting rep vs. being a head coach.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32736 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:31 am to
quote:

From what I read, he was integral in the recruiting of a lot of those good players. It's just odd how he got bad at recruiting at an alleged more prestigious school.


From what you read as written by who?

Thanks to Trent Johnson taking Nevada to the sweet 16, the program had proven post season success. That makes it easier to recruit. I imagine if we had a coach good enough to get us into the sweet 16, our recruiting would improve.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12412 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:20 pm to
How is a coach supposed to get that talent to make a sweet 16 run though? We clearly don't have it now. Your solution to our woes is to hire a coach who can take us deep in the tourney so he can get good players? That's ground breaking stuff there...
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