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This guy gets it. Aricle about QB situation in Athens from SDS....

Posted on 7/28/15 at 7:27 am
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 7:27 am
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 7:33 am to
Hope he's right...
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 7:33 am to
It's not a given that he'll do well, but I agree with his basic premise that it's Ramsey's job and basically has been the whole time. Taking Lambert was a no-brainer with only two scholarship QBs.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 7:39 am to
I was hoping for an article to make me hopeful, but when he starts by comparing the UGA QB situation to a tumor...not so much.

I hope he's right, but he's guessing as much as anyone else. His point was that the QB doesn't need to make unnecessary gambles. Ramsey doesn't exactly fit that MO.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 7:42 am to
What a long winded article to say exactly nothing. That guy didn't say anything different than what everyone I know has been saying since January. His whole article boils down to:

quote:

We’ll know more by the end of fall practice and even more by the meat of Georgia’s SEC schedule.


quote:

I expect Ramsey to start against Louisiana-Monroe on Sept. 5 and play pretty well throughout the season.

Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12414 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:12 am to
What does he 'get' other than it being Ramsey's to lose?
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:55 am to
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His point was that the QB doesn't need to make unnecessary gambles. Ramsey doesn't exactly fit that MO.


I don't know, being the starter is a little different than spot duty....plus, after last year I'm OK with some aggressiveness out of my QB.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:00 am to
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His point was that the QB doesn't need to make unnecessary gambles


To me his whole point was "UGA has questions at QB. They have a good enough RB to help that situation. Ramsey will probably start, and probably do pretty well"

Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:02 am to
If the reports and live action from Ramsey were that he was "a little aggressive", I would be thrilled. From what we've seen and based on the fact that he hasn't secured the position, he seems to border/cross into "overaggressive" territory.

He might be a different quarterback if he prepares as the starter, but I don't see how it is anything but a coinflip at this point. Luckily we start the season slow.

Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:04 am to
I read it as the media and fans reading too much into the QB competition in regards to whether or not Ramsey is capable. I think that was his main point.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:04 am to
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He might be a different quarterback if he prepares as the starter, but I don't see how it is anything but a coinflip at this point. Luckily we start the season slow.


Good news is you and I could QB next years team to 7 wins. Certainly he's better than us, right??
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:14 am to
haha probably true, but we ain't lookin for 7 wins, cowboy.

I would just hate to have him back there flinging the rock around when that's not what we need to do to win. We have arguably the best RBs and one of the best OLs in conference, maybe country. We don't have a proven WR outside of MM, and even he is questionable. I will go on record as saying that if Ramsey throws fewer than 7 INTs, we are in the SECCG with a shot at the playoff.

Dear god, please.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:24 am to
The key is risk management, not elimination of risk. If Georgia sends Bauta out there, they'll run it or throw a check down every play, win 9 or so games, but won't be capable of winning the conference. Good teams will be able to roll the safeties up, stop UGA's plan, and UGA won't be able to counter down the field.

Or, you could throw Ramsey or Lambert out there who are willing and able to take more chances down the field. It could go well, and UGA could win the conference. It could also go poorly, they make more mistakes, and UGA wins 8. It would likely be somewhere in the middle.

Give me the second option.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63859 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:30 am to
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Give me the second option.


Bauta doesn't have the arm that Ramsey does, few qb's do. But Bauta is still a Div-I scholarship QB at the University of Georgia. He can still throw the ball downfield. If he makes better decisions than Ramsey and has emerged as "the leader in the locker room" then there's just as good of a case to be made to give him the starting role. Its just as reasonable to say it is his to lose.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:38 am to
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It could also go poorly, they make more mistakes, and UGA wins 8. It would likely be somewhere in the middle.


An incomplete pass- or even an interception- 40 to 50 yards downfield will have an affect on safeties. Last year we wouldn't throw downfield when everybody knew it was what had to be done.

No way coaches are building this team like a Stafford/ Murray team. But at some point in the SEC the QB has to win a game for you. I think Ramsey has that ability. Hopefully the coaches can keep him from "losing the game" for us, as the weight simply shouldn't be on his shoulders.
Posted by bulldawger
Fish Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2010
2882 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:39 am to
Ramsey's the guy.

He fits the offense better than what I've seen from Bauta. If we were a west coast type of offense Bauta might be a better fit.

The way we run the ball we need a threat to take the top off of the defense. Ramsey gives us that.
Until he proves to be untrustworthy, Ramsey is the guy.

I don't even consider Lambert being an option at this point.(sorry DGD)
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Bauta doesn't have the arm that Ramsey does, few qb's do. But Bauta is still a Div-I scholarship QB at the University of Georgia. He can still throw the ball downfield. If he makes better decisions than Ramsey and has emerged as "the leader in the locker room" then there's just as good of a case to be made to give him the starting role. Its just as reasonable to say it is his to lose.

I'm sure he has the arm to do it. Mason did it. I've never seen Bauta show the inclination to do it. He has yet to look more than 15 yards downfield in a game or spring game that I've seen, and you don't hear about him doing it in practice. All you hear is "he makes good decisions."

That, to me, is more concerning than Ramsey making some mistakes as a RS freshman while doing so. Just my opinion.
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5549 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:48 am to
It will be Ramsey. The best thing about this season is at least he gets a tuneup game to start into instead of a Clemson or Boise.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63859 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 12:12 pm to
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I'm sure he has the arm to do it. Mason did it. I've never seen Bauta show the inclination to do it. He has yet to look more than 15 yards downfield in a game or spring game that I've seen, and you don't hear about him doing it in practice. All you hear is "he makes good decisions."

That, to me, is more concerning than Ramsey making some mistakes as a RS freshman while doing so. Just my opinion.


If I thought Ramsey was the future, I'd agree with you. But because I think Eason is the future, I see the qb this season being a 1-year starter. I would accept the risk of Ramsey having growing pains if I thought Ramsey was the future, I'd be willing to accept a year of growing pains as an investment in the future.

Regardless of who the starter is, the opposing defense isn't going to keep two safeties 30 yards deep. They'll be playing close because of the running game. And I think going into situational scenarios with clock, score, down, distance, is going to be a waste of time. The decision for starting QB shouldn't be based on how another defense might scheme against him.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 12:26 pm to
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Last year we wouldn't throw downfield when everybody knew it was what had to be done.


Huh?Go look at the Arky and Mizzou games...we used deep play action very early in the each.I believe the 1st or 2nd play in the Arkansas.Obviously a big key to the success running the ball in each of those games.

I really wish we'd done it more vs GT in the 2nd and 3rd qtrs...they had 9 and sometimes 10 in box and pretty much stopped us cold.
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