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The Main Reason to Fire Richt
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:05 pm
I'm not about to jump on the bandwagon to fire CMR yet, but I believe deep down the reason we start these rumors after every loss is because Richt has hit the ceiling as a coach. We know what we're going to get year in and year out from him.
- 8-10 win seasons consistently
- 1-2 bad losses that keeps us from contending in any MNC
- Top 10 recruiting classes
- Around 5+ players suspended or kicked off the team each year
- Multiple top players missing key games due to suspensions
- 1 big win a year to give us hope
- Countless top players in the NFL
- And a Florida bowl game against the B1G
- 8-10 win seasons consistently
- 1-2 bad losses that keeps us from contending in any MNC
- Top 10 recruiting classes
- Around 5+ players suspended or kicked off the team each year
- Multiple top players missing key games due to suspensions
- 1 big win a year to give us hope
- Countless top players in the NFL
- And a Florida bowl game against the B1G
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:07 pm to Shockley03
Thank you for this new thread. I was getting bored reading the other 5 or 6 threads about firing or not firing Richt. 
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:11 pm to Broncothor
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:12 pm to Broncothor
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Thank you for this new thread. I was getting bored reading the other 5 or 6 threads about firing or not firing Richt.
Reading all of them, I felt like everyone danced around each of these points so I put them all in one thread. The thread to end all Fire CMR threads.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:14 pm to Shockley03
It'd be like when the Redskins fire head coaches. Are struggles a result of the coach's shortcomings, or merely symptoms of a larger problem in the organization?
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:23 pm to Crowknowsbest
Crow, it doesn't appear that any want to listen to any form of reason.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:23 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Crowknowsbest
All of your posts in these fire Richt threads have been spot on. It's a problem in the AD, plain and simple.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:33 pm to Crowknowsbest
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It'd be like when the Redskins fire head coaches. Are struggles a result of the coach's shortcomings, or merely symptoms of a larger problem in the organization?
Do you think Mark Richt has completely maximized the potential afforded him by the UGA Administration?
Do you think there is not one coach out there that can improve on what Richt can do?
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:36 pm to HinesvilleThrill
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Do you think there is not one coach out there that can improve on what Richt can do?
There might be some that can fix the losing woes in the short term, maybe provide a spark where we catch a few breaks and win the SEC one year. But long term, the problem persists and doesn't get any better.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:37 pm to HinesvilleThrill
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Do you think Mark Richt has completely maximized the potential afforded him by the UGA Administration?
I think he brought energy and excitement in his first few years that helped the program overachieve early in his tenure. I now think the program has regressed to its historical mean.
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Do you think there is not one coach out there that can improve on what Richt can do?
Not in any lasting way, unless there's a significant increase in support from the administration. I also think it's really unlikely that UGA will find and pay for an upgrade coach, rendering the firing/hiring basically useless.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:43 pm to HinesvilleThrill
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Do you think Mark Richt has completely maximized the potential afforded him by the UGA Administration?
I don't think so. What key missing component has been a good DC. I think we have that now and if we can recruit at a high level on defense hopefully we solve our ongoing defensive woes. The game Sat. can be explained by Pruitt not having the players he needs.
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Do you think there is not one coach out there that can improve on what Richt can do?
There probably is but I don't know of any who are chomping at the bit to come to Georgia. Anyone who might consider the job knows that Richt is well entrenched. My opinion is that it will be Richt's decision when he leaves and not our administration's.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:47 pm to Crowknowsbest
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I think he brought energy and excitement in his first few years that helped the program overachieve early in his tenure. I now think the program has regressed to its historical mean.
We still stand 3rd All Time in SEC Titles so I don't buy the "historical mean." I think big time SEC coaches are similar to CEOs of large companies. Long Time tenure in both is far more likely to hurt performance. It's time for a change in Athens.
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Not in any lasting way, unless there's a significant increase in support from the administration. I also think it's really unlikely that UGA will find and pay for an upgrade coach, rendering the firing/hiring basically useless.
What does Florida have that we don't? And I'm talking about commitment to the Football program.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:55 pm to HinesvilleThrill
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We still stand 3rd All Time in SEC Titles so I don't buy the "historical mean." I think big time SEC coaches are similar to CEOs of large companies. Long Time tenure in both is far more likely to hurt performance. It's time for a change in Athens.
Ok. We've regressed to our new mean below our peers who have taken proactive steps to improve their programs, thereby shifting the balance of power away from Georgia.
Also, Richt isn't the CEO in your scenario. There are a lot of things out of his control, which is my whole point.
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What does Florida have that we don't? And I'm talking about commitment to the Football program.
A really good AD.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:05 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Also, Richt isn't the CEO in your scenario. There are a lot of things out of his control, which is my whole point.
A CEO still has to report to a Board. He doens't have absolite control.
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quote:What does Florida have that we don't? And I'm talking about commitment to the Football program. A really good AD.
But what specifically do they have that we don't in regards to resources? If that is what you are saying that Georgia doesn't have that other schools do.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:06 pm to davesdawgs
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that game sat can be explained by Pruitt not having the players that he needs.
That certainly is one argument. However, that team that showed up saturday looked outclassed on every level and we all know that isn't the first time that has happened. You won't hear me call for Richt's head though bc it wouldn't happen anyway.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:17 pm to HinesvilleThrill
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A CEO still has to report to a Board. He doens't have absolite control.
That's the AD. Richt would be more like the President of the largest aspect of the company.
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But what specifically do they have that we don't in regards to resources? If that is what you are saying that Georgia doesn't have that other schools do.
Facilities, support staff, S&C staff, bigger recruiting budgets, etc. Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, Ohio State, Texas, Texas A&M, Clemson, etc. all invest far more than UGA in those things. It's very obvious that their admin's are more serious about winning at football than UGA is.
They also don't have school discipline policies that go above and beyond their peers.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:37 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Facilities, support staff, S&C staff, bigger recruiting budgets, etc. Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, Ohio State, Texas, Texas A&M, Clemson, etc. all invest far more than UGA in those things. It's very obvious that their admin's are more serious about winning at football than UGA is.
Do you know this as absolute fact or are you just assuming. I know that we will never have an administration like Bama and Auburn. I've accepted that. But for eveything that I know of, us and Florida are on even ground. What facilities do they have that we don't? How much more support staff do they have than us? How much bigger is their S&C staff? How much more do they spend on recruiting than us? I want to know cold, hard numbers and I can get on board with you.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:40 pm to Crowknowsbest
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They also don't have school discipline policies that go above and beyond their peers.
This I will agree with but Richt is on board with this policy.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:43 pm to HinesvilleThrill
I really expected us to go undefeated and win the Natty with an unproven QB and half the starting shite sucking secondary kicked off the team...where's the damn sarcasm emocon when you need it...it was a shitty loss that we just have to deal with....
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:43 pm to HinesvilleThrill
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How much more do they spend on recruiting than us? I want to know cold, hard numbers and I can get on board with you.
The recruiting budget argument doesn't hold weight, considering 90% of our roster lives within 3 hrs of Athens.
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