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re: The direction of UGA
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:29 pm to WorkinDawg
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:29 pm to WorkinDawg
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Unfortunately we lose to teams who aren't more talented.
And who has been more talented than Alabama over the past 5-6 years? They lose to less talented teams every time they lose.
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:31 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Those teams lose to lesser talent teams too. Hell, Bama loses to a lesser team every time they lose. The effort and focus of 18-22 year olds isn't constant. Saban has even talked about how you only get max effort from a team 3-4 times per season.
I get that. But 2014 FU and the 2012 SCU games are uniquely UGA in my observation. The 2012 Gamecocks were pretty dam good....but 35-7??
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:32 pm to WorkinDawg
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I get that. But 2014 FU and the 2012 SCU games are uniquely UGA in my observation. The 2012 Gamecocks were pretty dam good....but 35-7??
But Alabama lost to a Ole Miss team that lost 4 games last season.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:35 pm to DawgsLife
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But Alabama lost to a Ole Miss team that lost 4 games last season.
Bama also won the SECW, the SEC, and made the F4.
I get that good teams lose. It's obvious. But I don't see how any UGA fan would dare to argue that we simply don't show up a couple of times a year.
Further, you missed a big point- we didn't just lose to SCU in 2012 or FU last year. We got utterly destroyed. Did Ole Miss beat Bama by 4 TD's?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:35 pm to Gotta have DeZeier
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If we had an IPF, would that have changed us getting the doors blown off of us in Jax? No.
Maybe, maybe we have better recruits that help us that game.
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Would having a larger support staff have made CMR kick it deep against the nerds? No.
Maybe, maybe they would see something on film that would allow us to expose them and blow the doors open.
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The bottom line is everyone points to winning the east in 11 and 12. Well thats great but what about 2010 where we got beat by UCF in the cotton pickin Liberty Bowl. Or going to Shreveport the year before that.
Some of us are clearly glass half full type people and some of us are class half empty type people. You're not going to change the others point of view.
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McG gave CMR the opportunity to right the ship.
How exactly did he do this before December of 14?
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Just my 2 cents
Everyone is entitled to theirs.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:38 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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The bottom line is everyone points to winning the east in 11 and 12. Well thats great but what about 2010 where we got beat by UCF in the cotton pickin Liberty Bowl. Or going to Shreveport the year before that.
So it's wrong to pick out two good years...but focusing on the two worst year's of Richt's tenure is allowed?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:40 pm to WorkinDawg
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I get that. But 2014 FU and the 2012 SCU games are uniquely UGA in my observation. The 2012 Gamecocks were pretty dam good....but 35-7??
2013 AU got throttled at LSU
2008 UF lost to Ole Miss at home
2012 Bama lost at home to 4 loss A&M
Point is that Georgia isn't alone. All those teams at least played for the title.
Think about it this way. Say UGA has Alabama's talent level last season. UGA beats GT and USCe by 7-14 points instead of close losses. Maybe still take a close loss to UF, but still make the SECCG with a great chance to win it and make the playoff. That's the difference.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:42 pm to WorkinDawg
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I get that good teams lose. It's obvious. But I don't see how any UGA fan would dare to argue that we simply don't show up a couple of times a year.
Nobody's arguing that. We're arguing that that isn't unique to UGA and is somewhat unavoidable.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:49 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Nobody's arguing that. We're arguing that that isn't unique to UGA and is somewhat unavoidable.
I simply disagree. Bringing up Bama "losing to a 4 loss Ole Miss team" vs. getting arse raped by a 5-loss FU team who fired their coach simply isn't a valid comparison. I'm just stunned that anyone would argue over our propensity to simply no-show a game or two.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:53 pm to WorkinDawg
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I simply disagree. Bringing up Bama "losing to a 4 loss Ole Miss team" vs. getting arse raped by a 5-loss FU team who fired their coach simply isn't a valid comparison. I'm just stunned that anyone would argue over our propensity to simply no-show a game or two.
The point is that with their talent level, losing to a 4 loss OM team is a similar no-show to UGA losing to UF with our lesser talent level. That is a no show for them. The scale is different. We need to get to that point talent-wise (or at least close) to reasonably expect to compete for championships consistently.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:57 pm to Crowknowsbest
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We need to get to that point talent-wise (or at least close) to reasonably expect to compete for championships consistently.
Regardless of our varied opinions on CMR's track record of corching 12 games per season vs. 10 games- we can all agree with this....more talent is better than less talent
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:18 pm to Crowknowsbest
"You don't need a great QB to win a national championship. You mainly need a running game and defense."
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:26 pm to FaCubeItches
yay football talk
Good stuff.
Good stuff.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:26 pm to FaCubeItches
That looks like Larry the Cable Guy.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:31 pm to DawgsLife
"We" dominated Arkansas for one half. Luckily, UGA built up a large enough lead in that first half to keep Arky at bay. But Arky passed up and down the field against UGA the second half.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:34 pm to Crowknowsbest
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The scale is different. We need to get to that point talent-wise (or at least close) to reasonably expect to compete for championships consistently.
The thing is, even tho we finish 6-12 every year in the country in recruiting(which we have since 2010) We've never finished better than 3rd in the SEC... Perennially behind Bama, LSU & UF & behind AU, Miss. & UT once... We finish about where we've recruit in the SEC & Richt with 9 top 10 finishes in 14 years, we end up about where we recruit nationally...
If you think the Richt era isn't the best period in UGA football history other than the '80-'83 period with Herschel & the outlier season with Lastinger at the helm, I don't know what to tell you. You must have an inflated sense of where UGA fits in the hierarchy of CFB. I've watched/attended UGA football games since '65 & have seen some shitty football along with a coupla flashes of brilliance...
I'll agree the talent in Ga. has gotten exponentially better in the last 20 years & we haven't kept up... BUT....
The game has been ramped up for UGA... As I've said several times, CMR is on the clock, the free pass is gone. If he's gonna stay around he has to win big. The tools & recruiting are in place for UGA to become elite over the next 3-4 years. If we don't, I along with most expect CMR to be pursuing his ministry options in Costa Rica...
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:58 pm to dallasga6
I'm completely satisfied with our direction in every respect. The wins will come in bunches. We just need to land the players who we are leading with and continue to get receivers for Eason and, hopefully Hockman later. I've watched film on Charlie Woerner who we simply must get. Once Woerner catches the ball he is great at maximizing yards after the catch.
With the talent now on board UGA should win the East and have a great chance for more. Ramsey, Bauta and Park are all good enough to get it done.
With the talent now on board UGA should win the East and have a great chance for more. Ramsey, Bauta and Park are all good enough to get it done.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:03 pm to Whiznot
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I've watched film on Charlie Woerner who we simply must get.
Strange to single him out. He is a nice player and I would like to have him in a Michael Bennett-type capacity. However, a 4.76 40 isn't going to make him a #1 WR.
Do you have connections to him or something?
ETA: unless his position is actually TE. In which case I retract my comments. 247 has him at WR, but he's pretty big for a receiver.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:06 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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How exactly did he do this before December of 14?
By not firing CMR before he got on the plane at the Memphis Aiport. Because I would have absolutely fired him.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:08 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Maybe, maybe we have better recruits that help us that game.
So it was McG's fault the 2010 class was a joke and the 2011 Dream Team had half the guys thrown off? So the IPF helps with talent evals IYO. Got it.
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Maybe, maybe they would see something on film that would allow us to expose them and blow the doors open.
Grasping at straws here. We gave up 399 yards rushing. And where in a position to STEAL the game and CMR poochs it. Inexcusable.
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Some of us are clearly glass half full type people and some of us are class half empty type people. You're not going to change the others point of view
Ok
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