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re: The direction of UGA
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:28 pm to gulfportdawg
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:28 pm to gulfportdawg
Saban's genius was figuring out how to get LSU and Alabama to write him a blank check.
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:31 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Human error is a reality of coaching and sports in general. Even Saban fricks up a bunch in game. The difference is that Alabama has done what it takes as a program to acquire so much talent that their margin of error is a lot bigger than UGA's is.
No coach UGA will hire is a good bet to be less error prone.
Nick Saban and every coach in America kick it deep against Tech. Hell I bet Paul Johnson laughed his butt off.
But Nick Saban also never has a game where his team just doesnt show up. CMR has one every year. And he smiled and joked on the sideline after Jax. Another thing Saban would never do.
We have a different opinion but this is May so it doesnt matter.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:33 pm to Gotta have DeZeier
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Nick Saban and every coach in America kick it deep against Tech. Hell I bet Paul Johnson laughed his butt off.
See kick 6 from 60 yards with a shitty kicker for a similar goof.
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But Nick Saban also never has a game where his team just doesnt show up.
Sure he does. See Arkansas last year. Back to the whole margin of error thing.
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We have a different opinion but this is May so it doesnt matter.
Fair enough
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:39 pm to Gotta have DeZeier
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giving him just enough rope to hang himself
This seems exactly what is going on and this should have been done years ago frankly. Like everyone else, I think CMR deserves to get the resources he wants...he's earned that. Likewise, he should be expected to win conference championships. We'll give you what you want - but if you don't get it done there aren't any excuses.
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The direction of UGA
It sure seems good now according to the hype but I will defer to Jan 2016 as W's and L's are what really matters at the end of the day.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:41 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Sure he does. See Arkansas last year. Back to the whole margin of error thing.
Arkansas was a good team coming off of a bye week. And Bama was in a position to win it and they did. We weren't in a position to win the UF game the entire second half. You call it margin for error. I call it coaching.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:42 pm to Crowknowsbest
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See kick 6 from 60 yards with a shitty kicker for a similar goof.
It was 57 yards and not anywhere near similar.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:47 pm to Gotta have DeZeier
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And Bama was in a position to win it and they did
Doubt Saban's corching had an impact on missed extra points....
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:48 pm to HinesvilleThrill
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It was 57 yards and not anywhere near similar.
I will agree that it wasn't apples to apples similar, but the chances of it getting blocked and returned for a TD were way too high to go for it with a kicker who had never proven himself from that distance. The way the TD was scored was improbable, but it doesn't change the fact that it was just a terrible decision.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:50 pm to WorkinDawg
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Doubt Saban's corching had an impact on missed extra points..
No. But you aren't seeing my point. They were in a position to win the game. Under Richt there is always a game where you can be at the car drinking because we just didnt show up.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:52 pm to HinesvilleThrill
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It was 57 yards and not anywhere near similar
It was similar in its bonehead nature
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:53 pm to Gotta have DeZeier
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They were in a position to win the game.
This is exactly my point. Their talent keeps them afloat.
UGA's talent is good but not anywhere remotely like theirs when you look at the depth.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:53 pm to Gotta have DeZeier
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No. But you aren't seeing my point. They were in a position to win the game. Under Richt there is always a game where you can be at the car drinking because we just didnt show up.
This cannot be argued. It is the only constant under CMR. My hope is that we can alter things by becoming a dominant defensive team (like the early 2000's) to cover for CMR's 1-2 per year offensive brainfarts. The FU game was a complete and total no-show. I was stunned. The 2012 SCU game is another. A team that is 5 yards away from a MNC vs. Bama loses to SCU by 4 TD's??
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:54 pm to Gotta have DeZeier
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Under Richt there is always a game where you can be at the car drinking because we just didnt show up.
I think this goes back to the argument about the margin for error that top-tier talent provides. We were in a position to win the USC and GT games last year, just didn't execute.
We know how Florida went, but that was our defense that let us down. Probably more CJP's fault than anyone in terms of in-game performance and adjustments, but I'm sure CMR's preparation in the week leading up to it had something to do with it as well.
God I wish that game hadn't happened. Such a thorough whooping.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:08 pm to Crowknowsbest
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This is exactly my point. Their talent keeps them afloat.
UGA's talent is good but not anywhere remotely like theirs when you look at the depth.
This is a significant part of our perspective. Our talent is not nearly as good as many suggest when labeling Richt as doing less with more. Bama consistently has top 5 recruiting classes with mostly 4 and 5 stars. Georgia usually has top 10 classes with more 3 stars than 4 stars and depleted rosters due to attrition that has not been allowed for in our recruiting practices.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:09 pm to davesdawgs
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Georgia usually has top 10 classes with more 3 stars than 4 stars and depleted rosters due to attrition that has not been allowed for in our recruiting practices.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:17 pm to davesdawgs
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This is a significant part of our perspective. Our talent is not nearly as good as many suggest when labeling Richt as doing less with more. Bama consistently has top 5 recruiting classes with mostly 4 and 5 stars. Georgia usually has top 10 classes with more 3 stars than 4 stars and depleted rosters due to attrition that has not been allowed for in our recruiting practices.
If we only lost to LSU, Bama and AU this would be it, case closed. Unfortunately we lose to teams who aren't more talented. In fact, we tend to play the "uber talented" teams better....Bama Blackout excluded.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:20 pm to Gotta have DeZeier
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Nick Saban and every coach in America kick it deep against Tech. Hell I bet Paul Johnson laughed his butt off.
Maybe. But it was also Saban who lobbied to have 1 second put back on the closck so he could have an inexperienced kicker try a field goal against Auburn.
In short...if the play works you are a genius. If it does not work you are a bum.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:20 pm to WorkinDawg
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If we only lost to LSU, Bama and AU this would be it, case closed. Unfortunately we lose to teams who aren't more talented. In fact, we tend to play the "uber talented" teams better....Bama Blackout excluded.
Those teams lose to lesser talent teams too. Hell, Bama loses to a lesser team every time they lose. The effort and focus of 18-22 year olds isn't constant. Saban has even talked about how you only get max effort from a team 3-4 times per season.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:26 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Saban has even talked about how you only get max effort from a team 3-4 times per season.
If our recruiting stays up for the next year or two, we would probably only need max effort 2-3 times a season. That's the importance of the talent gap between Bama and really anyone else in the conference. Saban can get 75% effort/execution against a team like Arkansas and win.
Bame at 90% probably beats all but a handful of teams in the country. Against OSU, they played at 80% and OSU had the athletes to match.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:28 pm to Gotta have DeZeier
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Arkansas was a good team coming off of a bye week.
We dominated Arkansas. Are you saying we had a better team? of course Alabama did not play up to their capabilities. We had 2-3 of our top RBs injured and did not play, too.
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