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Splitting the Richt Era in 2 by offensive line recruiting
Posted on 1/15/16 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 4:35 pm
Posted this link in another thread, but felt like this illustrated what many of us have said was a key problem during the Richt era. Lack of Hogs up front.
At this point, we've heard Kirby preach it twice, so will be interesting to see how he handles this as we approach NSD and offers for next season.
At this point, we've heard Kirby preach it twice, so will be interesting to see how he handles this as we approach NSD and offers for next season.
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 5:18 pm to fibonaccisquared
I've always been of the opinion that if you lose on the LOS, more often than not you will lose the game.
It was an interesting read, although I think it would have been more telling to compare his numbers to those of the different SEC schools over that time period, and their results. Alabama, LSU and Auburn would be the three more interesting comparisons, since they were able to win National titles. Florida, too, I guess.
It was an interesting read, although I think it would have been more telling to compare his numbers to those of the different SEC schools over that time period, and their results. Alabama, LSU and Auburn would be the three more interesting comparisons, since they were able to win National titles. Florida, too, I guess.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 5:33 pm to fibonaccisquared
I really think that Kirby was hell bent on getting Pittman. He knows how important the O line is. In my opinion, his first attempt was to get Pittman by hiring Enos. When that didn't work out, he went to Chaney. Who was tight with Pittman. The central figure on both of those OC's is Pittman.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:17 pm to Baxter
This has been a big problem for Richt. I don't know if they just kept missing out on the big guys on the LOS, or if their evaluation of talent was terrible for o and d line.
However, Richt recruited skill position players pretty well, but got pretty slack w/ the lineman. I will say this though, that the past couple of classes, the Oline talent has been stepping it up. I see this trend continuing.
However, Richt recruited skill position players pretty well, but got pretty slack w/ the lineman. I will say this though, that the past couple of classes, the Oline talent has been stepping it up. I see this trend continuing.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:06 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Splitting the Richt Era
Why don't we just end discussing the Richt/Adams era and call it a loss on all fronts.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:22 pm to Baxter
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I really think that Kirby was hell bent on getting Pittman. He knows how important the O line is. In my opinion, his first attempt was to get Pittman by hiring Enos. When that didn't work out, he went to Chaney. Who was tight with Pittman. The central figure on both of those OC's is Pittman.
Interesting take. Confirms my thoughts- with a good D and O-line any offense will work. You may have hit the nail on the head.
Posted on 1/16/16 at 9:26 am to fibonaccisquared
What would be more interesting is the recruiting ranking of our OL during the first half of the Richt tenure compared to the 2nd half relative to SEC competition. My opinion is the first half of the Richt years were more successful in part due to lesser competition in the SEC aka before Saban and Meyer became dominant in the SEC.
Posted on 1/16/16 at 11:15 am to GurleyGirl
Careful, some people are really, really sensitive to any criticism of Richt. 
Posted on 1/16/16 at 11:19 am to Cobb Dawg
Or, ya know...he's NOT HERE ANYMORE so the people who continue to find ways to complain about him come off as whiny, petulant little shithead children. Might as well keep talking crap about dennis felton.
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 12:13 pm to WG_Dawg
Maybe some people just like to discuss fricking UGA football on a fricking UGA fricking football forum and Richt was a fricking UGA football head coach. And maybe some whiny petulant little shithead children can't handle opinions that are contrary to their own so they constantly bitch on every thread like a teenage girl with a blood-soaked rag in her nubile cooch.
That's another possibility.
That's another possibility.
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 4:13 pm to Cobb Dawg
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Maybe some people just like to discuss fricking UGA football on a fricking UGA fricking football forum and Richt was a fricking UGA football head coach. And maybe some whiny petulant little shithead children can't handle opinions that are contrary to their own so they constantly bitch on every thread like a teenage girl with a blood-soaked rag in her nubile cooch.
That's another possibility.
Wow. Hit a nerve, did he? maybe some people don't like to hear you whine and cry all the time. When somebody calls you on it you want to pitch a fit? Discuss UGA football then. But crap.....all you do is whine, cry and pitch fits. Come back when you grow up.
I started a thread trying to get people to quit whining and all you could do is criticize and jump all over me. I took it and didn't complain because I thought, maybe...maybe I am wrong. Now you are pitching another fit. Try growing up and act like a man.
Careful, some people are really, really sensitive to any criticism of Richt
I think we all know what you are sensitive about, don't we?
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 4:45 pm to DawgsLife
I was wondering when the lap dog would show up. You two should get married. You got burned for being hypocritical. Seems nothing has changed.
Posted on 1/16/16 at 4:47 pm to Cobb Dawg
Do you need a xanax? You sound like you need a xanax.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 5:12 am to Cobb Dawg
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 5:14 am to SumterCoDawg
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 9:53 am to fibonaccisquared
It comes down to coaching and recruiting. Our Oline coaches and their ability to recruit and get the number of recruits they desire are what it boils down too.
Coach Neil Calloway 2001-2006 coached with the same philosophy as Bear Bryant. Big Strong Olinemen with plenty of backup. Recruiting is key.
Coach Stacy Sereals 2007-2010 I've got nothing...this is where I saw a big drop in Oline production, rushing production, and Recruiting.
Coach Will Friend 2011-2014 played for Bama and learned to coach under Coach Neil Calloway and it was in this era that we saw our recruiting and coaching production increase at least until the coaching change. We got our first 5 star recruit in a long while and more quality 4 stars. We also saw an increase in the number of linemen we pulled.
Why an established coach like CMR could not see this and make it a priority is beyond me. Maybe this is where the dysfunction comes in? Do these coaches lobby for more recruiting spots and it takes a spot from somewhere else? IDK
Coach Neil Calloway 2001-2006 coached with the same philosophy as Bear Bryant. Big Strong Olinemen with plenty of backup. Recruiting is key.
Coach Stacy Sereals 2007-2010 I've got nothing...this is where I saw a big drop in Oline production, rushing production, and Recruiting.
Coach Will Friend 2011-2014 played for Bama and learned to coach under Coach Neil Calloway and it was in this era that we saw our recruiting and coaching production increase at least until the coaching change. We got our first 5 star recruit in a long while and more quality 4 stars. We also saw an increase in the number of linemen we pulled.
Why an established coach like CMR could not see this and make it a priority is beyond me. Maybe this is where the dysfunction comes in? Do these coaches lobby for more recruiting spots and it takes a spot from somewhere else? IDK
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:26 am to AirDawg
Saban said of Smart that he is one of the most intelligent assistants he's ever been involved with. That's a powerful statement. And if you look at what Smart says his objectives are, and what moves he's made in a very short and hectic timeframe, Saban's opinion is proving true. The offensive line situation and hire is a prime example. I don't want to jump the gun and make predictions before he's coached a down, but I think CKS will be a much better leader of UGA's football program than that other guy......whom I've met and had personal conversations with and really like as person.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:48 am to AirDawg
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Why an established coach like CMR could not see this and make it a priority is beyond me. Maybe this is where the dysfunction comes in? Do these coaches lobby for more recruiting spots and it takes a spot from somewhere else? IDK
Just a wild guess here.....I am thinking Richt allowed his assistants to have a LOT of freedom to do what they want.
On the one hand, I think it is smart. Why have an assistant if you are not going to let him handle his job the way he wants.
On the other hand, a head coach has final responsibility, so you are, in essence, placing your job in their hands. That takes a lot of trust. It may have ultimately cost Richt his job.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 11:37 am to DawgsLife
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On the other hand, a head coach has final responsibility, so you are, in essence, placing your job in their hands. That takes a lot of trust. It may have ultimately cost Richt his job.
When you are getting paid millions for this job, you don't sit back and watch the wheels in motion. You take charge and make the course corrections, set procedures, lay down the law of the land, establish policy, and then you enforce it, be actively engaged in the day to day functions that come in coaching a D1 football program. You do not step back and hope for the best.
I think good new head coaches come into their new job excited for the challenges ahead and do everything they can to be successful. Great head coach don't let themselves get complacant or satisfied with mediocrity.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 11:48 am to AirDawg
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When you are getting paid millions for this job, you don't sit back and watch the wheels in motion. You take charge and make the course corrections, set procedures, lay down the law of the land, establish policy, and then you enforce it, be actively engaged in the day to day functions that come in coaching a D1 football program. You do not step back and hope for the best.
I don't think for a minute that he sat back and hoped for the best. I simply think he got to a point in which he allowed the DC do the DC job, the OC do the OC job, and he oversaw the overall program. There is a whole lot more to running a football program than Xs and Os. Hey, it's just my opinion.
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Great head coach don't let themselves get complacant or satisfied with mediocrity.
And yet, many, many excellent head coaches do just that. Mack Brown, Joe Paterno, Jackie Sherril and we can go on and on the many head coaches that got a National Championship and then tailed off to good but not great teams. Some got more than one.
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