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Simmer down, leghumpers
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:32 pm
We had a brand new coach, new staff. Freshman QB, a roster of 3rd and 4th string WRs, a porous OL, a banged up star RB and a shite ton of young guys on D. We were 3 plays (a total of 6 points) from being 10-2. Richt didn't leave Kirby much to work with. We got several top OL projects for 2017 and class ranked #3 overall so far. Trust the process
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:04 pm to Dawgholio
You don't know a goddam thing,,, trust the shut the frick up process....
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:22 pm to Dawgholio
Sorry. I don't really buy into the whole new staff BS. Kirby was brought in to win, now. I'm not gonna act like we were a contending team this year, but youre fooling yourself if you thought we were a 7-5 team on paper.
Don't give me that 5 pts from 10-2 trash either
Don't give me that 5 pts from 10-2 trash either
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:38 pm to Dawgholio
I see trees of green..
Red roses too...
I see them bloom...
For me and you...
And I think to myself...
What a wonderful world
Red roses too...
I see them bloom...
For me and you...
And I think to myself...
What a wonderful world
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:45 pm to Dawgholio
If we were 6 points from being 10-2, then we should be 9-3 now, or even 11-1. Stupid coaching (on the field and in practice) cost us the Vandy, UT, and Tech games.
Considering that our biggest loss was a blowout to a team that ended up 5-7, how can anyone be satisfied with this season?
Even Vandy had a better season than Ole Miss, yet Ole Miss embarrassed us all.
Considering that our biggest loss was a blowout to a team that ended up 5-7, how can anyone be satisfied with this season?
Even Vandy had a better season than Ole Miss, yet Ole Miss embarrassed us all.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:54 pm to Peter Buck
You're all going to be sorry! You'll see!
Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:12 pm to AlaCowboy
We were 5 points from being 4-8 so that excuse needs to die.
Not talking to who I replied. Just in general
Not talking to who I replied. Just in general
Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:27 pm to dhuck20
You're a dumbasss if you thought Kirby would have us in the playoffs his first year
Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:44 pm to dawgfan24348
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if you thought Kirby would have us in the playoffs his first year
Nobody on God's Earth thought or expected that.
Was I a dumbass for thinking we could win home games with Vandy or tech or thinking we could be competitive with a shitty Ole Miss team? Or thinking we could improve as a football team as the season wore on?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:52 pm to dawgfan24348
"I'm not gonna act like we were a contending team this year"
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:03 pm to Dawgholio
I'm sorry about this season. What a crap showing.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:45 pm to dhuck20
Well what did you expect?
He's a first year HC, with a bad o-line, freshman QB, and terrible OC. He got a win against a top 15 team and should have beaten Tennessee if it weren't for some crazy miracle
He's a first year HC, with a bad o-line, freshman QB, and terrible OC. He got a win against a top 15 team and should have beaten Tennessee if it weren't for some crazy miracle
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:46 pm to BranchDawg
That Ole Miss team wasn't vastly different then the one of now. Or have you forgotten how they almost knocked off Bama
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:14 pm to dhuck20
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Sorry. I don't really buy into the whole new staff BS. Kirby was brought in to win, now. I'm not gonna act like we were a contending team this year, but youre fooling yourself if you thought we were a 7-5 team on paper.
C'mon man. I've been bragging on your 2015 prediction in another thread: LINK
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1st - 6 or 7 wins. New system or whatever. I will still be a little disappointed, but obviously he would get a pass. We show flashes of being good. Beat at least 1 of Tech, UF, AU.
2nd - 8-9 wins. We compete for the East, maybe not win it-Come in 2nd or 3rd. Don't get blown out unless we are just clearly overmatched. Make great strives fundamentally and are in every game. Maybe get an upset.
3rd. 10 wins. 10 wins, absolutely no less IMO. We should win the east or come in a close 2nd. Competitive in each big game we have. Beat 2/3 of UF, Tech, and AU.
Course that was before Kirby was hired.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:21 am to Dawgholio
Kirby and Eason were new to the game in September....they are now a season in and they are not improved over what they were in September.
And again...no coach at UGA is doing themselves any favors losing to Georgia Tech...none...Florida is one thing but the supporters who matter...the ones who fund the program...will not tolerate losing to GT....you could win the SEC 10 years in a row and 5 natty's in the same time period and if, for some reason, you were 5-5 against Tech the folks who finance the program will want an answer as to why it is that you can't dominate Tech. Kirby is going to get a pass for the season for obvious reasons....but he isn't getting the same pass he would've gotten had he beat Tech.
And again...no coach at UGA is doing themselves any favors losing to Georgia Tech...none...Florida is one thing but the supporters who matter...the ones who fund the program...will not tolerate losing to GT....you could win the SEC 10 years in a row and 5 natty's in the same time period and if, for some reason, you were 5-5 against Tech the folks who finance the program will want an answer as to why it is that you can't dominate Tech. Kirby is going to get a pass for the season for obvious reasons....but he isn't getting the same pass he would've gotten had he beat Tech.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:06 am to germandawg
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no coach at UGA is doing themselves any favors losing to Georgia Tech...
True but objectively GT and UGA are often evenly matched which is supported by the close score in many of our games over the years. UGA fans will balk, but, but... Georgia always recruits better than GT, typically top 10 recruiting. My retort is that while the quality of the recruiting classes is certainly important, what matters the most is the team you actually put on the field. There are several aspects that explains the discrepancy between the recruiting classes and the team we field:
1. Attrition in all it's forms, injuries, players dismissed from the team, etc. We have had more than our share of this over the years.
2. A team is only as good as its foundation and our recruiting in the trenches over time has not been top 10 caliber. That needs to change under Smart if he is to take us to the next level.
3. Teams with dual-threat QB's have a decided advantage over teams that do not. We have not had an truly athletic QB since D.J. Shockley. And yes, a pro-style system has the advantage of the play-action pass but these are slow developing plays that require the OL to sustain blows which is difficult to do against the athletic DE in today's league.
As such Paul Johnson's offense is often an equalizer against teams with seemingly superior talent. This system is ideal for GT who will never be able to recruit at the same level as UGA but they don't have to. They need only find athletic players who can learn his system and cut block at the point of attack along with a smart QB who can run his triple option offense. Our defense simply wasn't up for the challenge in this latest round. Couple that critical mistakes made by our players spelled a narrow come from behind victory for GT.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:16 am to Dawgholio
I'm going to give the staff the benefit of the doubt for this season. With that said, if they don't turn things around next season I'll be pouring gasoline on the fire.
Kirby more than anyone understands what the expectations are and should be for the program.
It's not a perfect comparison, but I see a lot of similarities between Kirby and Dan Quinn. Both were new coaches in their first year of experience trying to change the culture of their teams. Plenty of mistakes were made along the way, but they will be used as valuable learning experiences.
Kirby more than anyone understands what the expectations are and should be for the program.
It's not a perfect comparison, but I see a lot of similarities between Kirby and Dan Quinn. Both were new coaches in their first year of experience trying to change the culture of their teams. Plenty of mistakes were made along the way, but they will be used as valuable learning experiences.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 9:17 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:53 am to Mike Gordon
I don't think Kirby is the problem but he better wake up and find an OC that can utilize what he has on the field. The D showed signs of improvement in the second half of the year and got turnovers. The O seemed to get worse and I can't remember us scoring after a turnover. I think it says a lot when we say our best complete game was a loss against Tennessee. We struggled to beat teams with inferior talent (Nichols, ULL) and lost to two teams with inferior talent (Vandy, tech). I hope Kirby figures it out and trims the fat by next fall.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 9:54 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:23 am to GurleyGirl
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True but objectively GT and UGA are often evenly matched which is supported by the close score in many of our games over the years. UGA fans will balk, but, but... Georgia always recruits better than GT, typically top 10 recruiting. My retort is that while the quality of the recruiting classes is certainly important, what matters the most is the team you actually put on the field. There are several aspects that explains the discrepancy between the recruiting classes and the team we field: 1. Attrition in all it's forms, injuries, players dismissed from the team, etc. He have had more than our share of this over the years. 2. A team is only as good as its foundation and our recruiting in the trenches over time has not been top 10 caliber. That needs to change under Smart if he is to take us to the next level. 3. Teams with dual-threat QB's have a decided advantage over teams that do not. We have not had an truly athletic QB since D.J. Shockley. And yes, a pro-style system has the advantage of the play-action pass but these are slow developing plays that require the OL to sustain blows which is difficult to do against the athletic DE in today's league. As such Paul Johnson's offense is often an equalizer against teams with seemingly superior talent. This system is ideal for GT who will never be able to recruit at the same level as UGA but they don't have to. They need only find athletic players who can learn his system and cut block at the point of attack along with a smart QB who can run his triple option offense. Our defense simply wasn't up for the challenge in this latest round. Couple that critical mistakes made by our players spelled a narrow come from behind victory for GT.
All teams have attrition. A significant amount of the attrition has come from UGAs self inflicted drug rules. Those were/are AD rules. They have been an issue for a long time now. I'd love to see them change. That will help the attrition issue out.
We are pretty damn deep and talented on the D side of the trenches. The Oline is not, but I bet Tech or Vandy do not have many O lineman ranked higher than most of our second string and red shirts. It's more excuses and lack of development than lack of qualified bodies.
The hardest team to defend is a team that runs the ball well and can hit you with play action passes with accuracy and efficiency. A QB that can do the above and run certainly adds a different dimension, but a lot of the dual threat types are average passers who run versions of the read option and if they run it enough they get dinged which affects their throwing. To say they have a decided advantage is beyond laughable.
Play action passing gives a decided advantage to the Oline. That dynamic changes when it is 3rd and 8 and the defensive line does not need to respect the run.
Other than that you are spot on...
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:42 am to dawgfan24348
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He's a first year HC, with a bad o-line, freshman QB, and terrible OC.
We have a better QB than last year and a better OC than we had last year. Those are facts.
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should have beaten Tennessee if it weren't for some crazy miracle
You mean like Auburn in 2013? I'm pretty sure both go down as losses. We very easily could have been beaten by Nicholls State. Let that sink in. Then go to ESPN and see what Nicholls State has done over the past 5 years. They had their best season in a decade and still finished middle of the pack in the Southland Conference. But hey...at least they finished ahead of Houston Baptist. (Only because the beat Houston Baptist 33-30 in double OT)
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