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SEC Haters coming out of the woodwork

Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Brick67
Member since Oct 2012
1303 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:53 pm
From an actual friend of mine (who is the opposite of stupid by the way):

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So lets review. This SEC loudmouth ran his pie-hole two weeks ago about how superior the SEC was to the rest of the conferences, singling out the BiG10 as not playing a tough schedule like the SEC teams do. Arkansas is 0-2 against the MAC (unranked Toledo) and the Big-12 (unranked Texas Tech). Arkansas now becomes one of my favorite teams because if they start winning in the SEC, we'll know how really weak that conference is.


Thanks Razorbacks. If we run our mouth, better back it up. This guy has himself convinced the entire BCS Bowl system was an SEC fix from the beginning. Undoubtedly we'd have a few less SEC nattys under current system had it started 10 years ago, but still think we'd have at least half of them.
Posted by JimDawginTexas
Member since Sep 2012
1538 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:56 pm to
Who gives a shite. it will all be settled on the field in the end. Bama losing to the shitty osu did more to hurt the SEC than anything else.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39956 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:57 pm to
I've got friends that are the same way. "You only win the championships because ESPN starts you higher so it's easier to make it". Yeah, nevermind they have to actually win the game.
Posted by Brick67
Member since Oct 2012
1303 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:04 pm to
Agreed, that's why we play the game. New season, things change--put up or shut up. Also agreed, Bama losing last year to OSU truly tarnished us. I think also, other conferences have been chasing us and as a result they've improved as a result.

He does have one point: Why was Arky ranked so high preseason to begin with this year given last year's performance and meh reloading?
Posted by MSGADawg5988
Member since Feb 2014
1361 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:13 pm to
Arknsas was ranked high because they had a senior QB in Brandon Allen that played well down the stretch and got hurt but was healthy. They crushed Texas in bowl game and returned 2 1,000 yard rushers in Collins and Williams. They were ranked fairly and their play hasn't warranted a high rank so they have fallen dramatically
Posted by MSGADawg5988
Member since Feb 2014
1361 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:16 pm to
I don't get caught up in where u start. If most teams win out then they will get their shot especially if u are in a power 5 conference. Arkansas losing Williams has hurt them badly. The Toledo game is inexcusable tho but your friend shouldn't be complaining about their preseason rank cuz it was fair.
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
13192 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:35 pm to
I still don't and never will, understand why you and the rest pull for a conference. It's mind boggling to me to think that any "conference success" will benefit UGA or any team in our league for that matter. Just win and people will STFU.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41623 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:00 pm to
The only benefits I can think of for UGA are more money for SEC bowls and a better SOS if other SEC teams play well. Otherwise, I don't care. The rest of the SEC teams could all lose and I wouldn't care so long as UGA wins. In fact, if other SEC teams do poorly, we could benefit in recruiting if we can take advantage by winning more games and championships.

The reason why SEC gets so much hype year after year is because we tend to have the most teams in the top 10 and 20 in recruiting every year and can afford some pretty good coaches. Not to mention that the SEC has produced a ton of national champs over the past decade. Also, the number of players that are drafted in the NFL is really high for the SEC compared to most other conferences.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26172 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 6:35 am to
To say that the conference being successful as a whole doesn't help Georgia is asinine. Without the success of the conference on the field, there is no SEC Network. That's a pretty nice payday for UGA for just being a part of a conference.

However, you'll never see me root for a team just because they're in the SEC.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 6:47 am to
I see this thinking a lot. But Arkansas success or failure does not affect the strength of another teams schedule. Just because Bert ran his mouth and is now losing does not make Ohio State's schedule better. That thinking just does not make sense.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 6:51 am
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 7:02 am to
frick the SEC.... I wouldn't care if every team in the conference but UGA was .500 every year. I don't ever pull for SEC teams other than UGA to win...I always pull against them.

That being said it ain't like the difference between the SEC and the rest of the nation is as stark as the difference between the NFL and CFB. It is much more subtle....all it takes, for instance, is for 4 of 5 lineman to be 1/10th of a step quicker off the ball to make a world of difference over 60 minutes.

There has to be a best conference in CFB....and top to bottom that has been and is the SEC. That is not to say that others aren't close and that individual teams may not be better than the best in the SEC....


And there is no other conference whose fans care as much....and it ain't even close. I have a place in New Mexico about 45 minutes from West Texas....and the local network affiliates show SEC games on Saturdays. Admittedly there ain't a lot of college football in New Mexico but Texas, Arizona and Colorado to a lesser degree are pretty big CFB states....and yet even in Texas the CBS SEC Game is on....because people are watching it....
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 7:35 am to
Never have thought the media gave the SEC a favorable bias, but Auburn being ranked right now is hard to reconcile.

They are on a stretch of losses that is mind boggling for a top 25 team.

Obviously the polls don't really matter anymore, it's just extremely odd.
Posted by GeorgiaFlyer
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2014
1618 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 5:17 pm to
A lot of SEC games on around Boston this past weekend. Especially the UGA / USC GAME Could of had something to do with FSU being in town and their fans half interested in our game ...
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 5:19 pm
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 5:43 pm to
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In fact, if other SEC teams do poorly, we could benefit in recruiting if we can take advantage by winning more games and championships.


Maybe, but a weak conference could also hurt recruiting. Players in weaker conferences don't face high levels of competition, don't get as much national media exposure, etc., all of which they might view as diminishing future marketability.

It's a good thing when being a conference champion is an actual accomplishment, rather than a "Well, someone has to be."
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3050 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 5:52 pm to
A radio guy today talking about Alabama said its hard to stay on top because everyone is gunning for you. BS. On top you get more money, attract better recruits, better coaches, more exposure. Everyone you play is gunning for you each game by definition.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:36 pm to
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Maybe, but a weak conference could also hurt recruiting. Players in weaker conferences don't face high levels of competition, don't get as much national media exposure, etc., all of which they might view as diminishing future marketability.

It's a good thing when being a conference champion is an actual accomplishment, rather than a "Well, someone has to be."


I agree with this in theory, however, the ACC is second in terms of players going to the league (at least in recent years) largely on the basis of the opposite - a few big games and then stat padders. Seems there are different strokes for different folks.

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A radio guy today talking about Alabama said its hard to stay on top because everyone is gunning for you. BS. On top you get more money, attract better recruits, better coaches, more exposure. Everyone you play is gunning for you each game by definition.


MF'in this. College football is entirely setup to build dynasty programs. The NFL penalizes you by succeeding. College football is entirely the opposite. Win and get better, lose and get worse (unless you're Ole Miss).
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86428 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:40 pm to
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Thanks Razorbacks. If we run our mouth, better back it up.


things like this area why I lmao at folks who take such SEC pride. I could not possibly care any less what anybody thinks of the SEC or fricking arkansas.

If your supposedly smart buddy started saying all that to me, ya know what I'd say? "UGA is 3-0, why are you trying to talk crap about arkansas?"
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7764 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 10:21 pm to
I've realized that nobody is really talking about us this week. Barely a mention on college football final. I just watched most of Championship Drive on ESPNU, literally nothing. Lambert wasn't even in the top 3 performers of the week even though he had better numbers then the guys they listed other than Fornette. These idiots are putting LSU in their top 5, and for what? Beating a Mississippi team by 2 points, a team who should never have been ranked and their signature win is Southern Miss? Then LSU beat Auburn, literally the worst team in the entire SEC right without even throwing the ball.

Georgia's game last Saturday was probably the best offensive performance I've ever seen from them against a team that gives us problems no matter how bad they are.

We probably won't get much respect even if we beat Alabama, they will discuss how bad Alabama is and how great LSU is.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 12:38 am to
Honestly, I'd say this is in our favor. UGA teams in my lifetime have tended to perform significantly worse when there are expectations. I'd much prefer to sit in the 4-8 range for now. Let the players have a little bit of a chip. Nothing in the way of national recognition. Just get out there and win. If they do that, the rest will take care of itself.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 6:36 am to
The pundits aren't hyping UGA because like so many of us they are afraid that the annual destruction of the bed linens are just around the corner. There is nothing in our past 35 year history to suggest that last Saturday's game will mean much on a national stage because we will no doubt fail to show up in a couple of games. No one likes to be proven wrong and Georgia football has done so to so many pundits over the years who predicted greatness from the Dawgs that they are reluctant to get on board again.


I like where we are. Our being ignored for the most part may keep the team focused on the business at hand. The worst thing that could happen to us is we somehow get the message that beating a very bad USC team means anything other than USC is very bad. The Vandy game is more indicative of where we are, in my opinion.

That being said the schedule doesn't look as daunting as it once did just 4 weeks ago. Getting Alabama this year may be the best of a bad situation as they have looked very beatable and Auburn is burning to the ground. At this point in the season I would rather face Alabama than Ole Miss....
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