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Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:47 pm
Chaney was a bad hire that just never made sense to me at all. We have covered the fact that our o-line is atrocious this year but beyond that and the questionable play calling, Chaney has not developed Eason at all.
Look, Eason has talent and we have seen potential for greatness but he has not gained much if any development over the course of this season. Yes Eason is a freshman but I have not seen a lot of progression, the plays he has made have been off talent and instinct alone. His timing with receivers is still off more often than not, they also drop too many passes but he makes a lot of the same mistakes over and over. I often wonder what they are working on in practice? How is a former lineman supposed to teach the details of QB development? I don't care that Chaney happened to be the OC/QB coach at Purdue when Brees was there, he did not make Brees what he is.
Before next year, we have to find an O-line, we have to get better results from our receivers and Chaney needs to be replaced with a successful OC and a real QB coach. If the QB and OC coach are the same person that is fine and if they are two separate people, that is fine but this is a staff change that needs to happen asap.
Look, Eason has talent and we have seen potential for greatness but he has not gained much if any development over the course of this season. Yes Eason is a freshman but I have not seen a lot of progression, the plays he has made have been off talent and instinct alone. His timing with receivers is still off more often than not, they also drop too many passes but he makes a lot of the same mistakes over and over. I often wonder what they are working on in practice? How is a former lineman supposed to teach the details of QB development? I don't care that Chaney happened to be the OC/QB coach at Purdue when Brees was there, he did not make Brees what he is.
Before next year, we have to find an O-line, we have to get better results from our receivers and Chaney needs to be replaced with a successful OC and a real QB coach. If the QB and OC coach are the same person that is fine and if they are two separate people, that is fine but this is a staff change that needs to happen asap.
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:52 pm to Burns78
Chaney shouldn't be allowed to coach the dawgs for another game. I can call a better game from my recliner than he can from the press box.
I do not understand why he insists on doing exactly what the defense is looking for. No screen passes...again. No misdirection plays...ever. Run on obvious running plays and pass on 3rd and long. Horrid play calling.
Good luck in the Belk Bowl or the Taxslayer Bowl against another 6-6 team.
I do not understand why he insists on doing exactly what the defense is looking for. No screen passes...again. No misdirection plays...ever. Run on obvious running plays and pass on 3rd and long. Horrid play calling.
Good luck in the Belk Bowl or the Taxslayer Bowl against another 6-6 team.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:57 pm to Burns78
He has to go... Worst offense in over 20 years. When is the last time a UGA team FAILED to score AT LEST 40 points against an opponent in a season?
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:11 pm to Kneehigh
When our Oline wasn't asked to do a lot of double pulls and bullshite delay stuff, they did fine. The Oline performance was on the staff by and large. The last 4 games they did a solid job and that mirrored the change.
The staff made some poor decisions today and there were some dropped balls. A lot of them were by Freshman at key times. All we needed was two first downs and the Tech D was gassed. This one just fricking pisses me off. Run the fricking football
The staff made some poor decisions today and there were some dropped balls. A lot of them were by Freshman at key times. All we needed was two first downs and the Tech D was gassed. This one just fricking pisses me off. Run the fricking football
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:14 pm to Peter Buck
Agree with every point.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:17 pm to Peter Buck
Ok great... When was the last time UGA failed to score 40 points in a season?
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:21 pm to Burns78
Great summary, and spot on regarding Eason's development. We knew he would be coming in raw and would need time to grow into playing under center, reading complex defenses, etc. However, there hasn't been any noticeable progression in terms of his mechanics, reads, or timing. That is squarely on Chaney as far as I'm concerned. I agree that Chaney probably had very little to do with making Drew Brees into Drew Brees.
What should happen: Chaney given walking papers and a dynamic OC/QB coach brought in. Shane Beamer also given a hard look due to the disaster that was our special teams all season.
What probably will happen: All struggles blamed on "not having the players". Chaney kept. Beamer kept. Rinse, lather, repeat.
What should happen: Chaney given walking papers and a dynamic OC/QB coach brought in. Shane Beamer also given a hard look due to the disaster that was our special teams all season.
What probably will happen: All struggles blamed on "not having the players". Chaney kept. Beamer kept. Rinse, lather, repeat.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:39 pm to NCDawg52
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However, there hasn't been any noticeable progression
Disagree.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:41 pm to Burns78
Yep, that's the ticket. Blame the OC. Next year when we win 6 games we can blame the DC. In 2018 we'll blame Mark Richt again just for old time's sake. In 2019 we can fire Greg McGarity and refurbish Sanford stadium to revive game attendance. By about 2020 the hot topic will be whether we should join the sunbelt conference, which we would not have won this year either.
But just wait til Kirby gets our talent up to Georgia Tech's level.
But just wait til Kirby gets our talent up to Georgia Tech's level.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:06 pm to djsdawg
When our Oline wasn't asked to do a lot of double pulls and bullshite delay stuff, they did fine. The Oline performance was on the staff by and large. The last 4 games they did a solid job and that mirrored the change.
Wait,so now you're agreeing with PB about the O-line and they reason for its performance this year?
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Agree with every point.
Wait,so now you're agreeing with PB about the O-line and they reason for its performance this year?
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:36 pm to wdhalgren
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Yep, that's the ticket. Blame the OC. Next year when we win 6 games we can blame the DC. In 2018 we'll blame Mark Richt again just for old time's sake.
Yep, that's the ticket...do nothing about the very obvious problems we have and continue to ignore them for years on end, make sure we get nothing but the same. God forbid we try to improve...just like everyone else that is actually competitive.
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:45 pm to Peter Buck
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When our Oline wasn't asked to do a lot of double pulls and bullshite delay stuff, they did fine. The Oline performance was on the staff by and large. The last 4 games they did a solid job and that mirrored the change. The staff made some poor decisions today and there were some dropped balls. A lot of them were by Freshman at key times. All we needed was two first downs and the Tech D was gassed. This one just fricking pisses me off. Run the fricking football
I agree to a point, the pass blocking was not horrible and there was some improvement at times but run blocking was still sketchy most of the season and very inconsistent. Can't win the SEC with that type of inconstancy. Either way, it was still one of the worst o-line's I have seen at UGA in a long time.
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:59 pm to Burns78
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but run blocking was still sketchy most of the season and very inconsistent.
Our run blocking was vastly improved after the UF game.
Look at the totals vs UK,AU (170 yrds from the los) and GT...night and day compared to earlier in the year.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:08 pm to Burns78
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Look, Eason has talent and we have seen potential for greatness but he has not gained much if any development over the course of this season.
Actually, I have. earlier in the season he was throwing off his back foot. His passes have been crisp. He is not accurate, and has not been accurate all season, but he is not throwing off his back foot, that I have noticed, lately. His timing is way off, but that is learned. His timing and accuracy are the two glaring problems I see, and accuracy, if it comes, takes time....as does timing. He has a lot of work to do, but he can do it. I don't know if I can blame a whole lot on Chaney because I don't know what he has been working on.
The one thing I could fault him for against Tech was throwing the ball late in the game. We should have run the ball....but what really boggles the mind, is they threw that pass after a timeout. THAT is on Kirby Smart. He had plenty of time to overrule Chaney, and he didn't. We could and and should have had at least two more wins this year. Tennessee and GT. (Of course Vanderbilt should have been a win, too)
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:13 pm to Burns78
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but run blocking was still sketchy most of the season and very inconsistent.
You are right. but you have to ask yourself some important questions. Who did we run poorly against, and who did we run well against. Also, why did we run poorly in some of the games?
We ran very well against an Auburn team with a very good
Run defense. Same for Tennessee, and they are flush with 4 and 5* DLinemen. We also ran well against South carolina, and the strong part of their team is their defense.
We ran poorly against Nicholls, and Vandebilt....two teams we should have run off the field.
So, why did we run poorly? Sure, the OL is not as strong as it could be, but certainly strong enough to run against Nicholls. Blocking scheme. SURELY if they can block well enough against Auburn they can block Nicholls.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:19 pm to RD Dawg
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Our run blocking was vastly improved after the UF game. Look at the totals vs UK,AU (170 yrds from the los) and GT...night and day compared to earlier in the year.
Most of this was the fact that we have two 5 star running backs. Very few times were there holes and almost all was yards after contact, a lot of contact. The line is terrible..period. Both of these backs should have had a banner year but getting hit behind the line and at the time of getting the hand-off is troublesome for any back. Yes there was some improvement at times but it was up and down..like crossing your fingers. They largely had to use gimmicks to get things going.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:24 pm to Burns78
Eason still is off target on way too many passes. The Int was because Eason threw behind the receiver on a short pass. Same for a sure long gain to Nauta but Eason threw it way behind him. Can't blame any of that on the OC. Maybe the true freshman QB next year can beat out Eason and we'll have some offense. Eason is 11th in the SEC for yards per attempt.
We could have had these results with Lambert.
We could have had these results with Lambert.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:33 pm to DawgsLife
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ctually, I have. earlier in the season he was throwing off his back foot. His passes have been crisp. He is not accurate, and has not been accurate all season, but he is not throwing off his back foot, that I have noticed, lately. His timing is way off, but that is learned. His timing and accuracy are the two glaring problems I see, and accuracy, if it comes, takes time....as does timing. He has a lot of work to do, but he can do it. I don't know if I can blame a whole lot on Chaney because I don't know what he has been working on. The one thing I could fault him for against Tech was throwing the ball late in the game. We should have run the ball....but what really boggles the mind, is they threw that pass after a timeout. THAT is on Kirby Smart. He had plenty of time to overrule Chaney, and he didn't. We could and and should have had at least two more wins this year. Tennessee and GT. (Of course Vanderbilt should have been a win, too)
I agree that we could have and should have at least two more wins. I also agree that it falls on Smart in the fact that he made the moronic hire, it is also on Smart to correct that decision which was my point.
As far as Eason's development, very little, his passes are off more often than not and very sloppy, even when we make a play. His passes are usually NOT crisp, they are wobbling ducks. His wind up is televised too often and he stares down the receivers he wants to go to while not seeing the open receiver. His timing is horrible most of the time, yes he is a freshman but at this point....he is not a freshman. I'm not knocking Eason at this point, these are things Chaney should have been working on constantly and there was very little improvement from day one until now, this should not be. How can Chaney tell him, he has no point of reference at all, he can't even begin to demonstrate it.
My point is, Chaney was a bad hire to start, he brought nothing positive to the table at the start of the season and I have not witnessed anything to convince me otherwise by the end of the season.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:39 pm to Burns78
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Most of this was the fact that we have two 5 star running backs
We had the same "star running backs" when we rushed for 20 yards vs UF or 75 yards vs Vandy. Sorry you just weren't watching the same games if you don't see difference before and after the UK game and our rushing totals reflect as much.
Schemes were simplified and rarely did I see our RB's getting hit behind the LOS...our pass blocking wasn't good vs AU though but they do have some talent up front.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:40 pm to Burns78
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Most of this was the fact that we have two 5 star running backs.
Dude. Why didn't those two 5* RB's run against Nicholls' then? 20* RB's can't run when there is no hold. One explanation for the Jekyl/Hyde running game this year is blocking scheme. We ran the ball against some teams with very good run defenses and did not run against some teams with very poor run defenses.
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