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Posted on 1/1/17 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 1/1/17 at 10:30 pm
One the big failures of past recruiting classes has been the inability to keep the vast majority of the class of in the program until they go pro or exhaust eligibility. Granted, some players experience things out of their control.
As an outsider looking in, it appears Alabama is able to keep their kids in the program. I know for a fact there are measures taken to keep them out of trouble.
My question is, do you think Kirby will be able to keep his classes entact for 3-4 years? Also, does anybody know if Alabama has the same issue we have had in the past or not?
As an outsider looking in, it appears Alabama is able to keep their kids in the program. I know for a fact there are measures taken to keep them out of trouble.
My question is, do you think Kirby will be able to keep his classes entact for 3-4 years? Also, does anybody know if Alabama has the same issue we have had in the past or not?
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Posted on 1/1/17 at 10:37 pm to DoubleDawg22
Bama doesn't kick kids out for being arrested. I think Kirby will follow this philosophy.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 10:38 pm to DoubleDawg22
To start, I think a large part of that is accountability both on the part of the players being accountable to the coaches and, more importantly, to one another. This all comes back to culture. Whereas under Richt guys were more or less left to their own devices, under Saban it seems that someone is policing that group at all times (be it S&C staff or senior leaders). Only time will tell but I think the tight-knit nature of this 2017 class will yield the kind of results we hope for in this regard; guys need to have fun but also need to know when to reign it in. Past groups have only known when to keep pressing their luck until someone outside the program called them on it.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 10:41 pm to Barstools
I think we learned a lot about how Kirby approaches these issues with th way he handled Ledbetter versus Rivers:
Stupidity just won't be tolerated; there are rules and they will be followed and disregarding warnings and suspensions is a quick way out.
But if a guy wants to get better and is willing to work toward rehabilitating himself, discipline will be given but mercy will be shown in the long run
Stupidity just won't be tolerated; there are rules and they will be followed and disregarding warnings and suspensions is a quick way out.
But if a guy wants to get better and is willing to work toward rehabilitating himself, discipline will be given but mercy will be shown in the long run
Posted on 1/1/17 at 10:55 pm to tylerdurden24
Bar stools - I was alluding to that.
TD - I agree with your points. If Richt had been able to keep his classes entact for a full cycle I think he is still our Head Coach.
You mentioned the cultures change, I talked to MB-82 one year at a summer camp and he talked about how there were a lot of kids who burn out and stop caring. I wish Richt would have ran them off. Kirby might not end up winning as much as Richt did, who knows, but it does seem as if he is solving some of the culture and recruiting issues we previously had.
TD - I agree with your points. If Richt had been able to keep his classes entact for a full cycle I think he is still our Head Coach.
You mentioned the cultures change, I talked to MB-82 one year at a summer camp and he talked about how there were a lot of kids who burn out and stop caring. I wish Richt would have ran them off. Kirby might not end up winning as much as Richt did, who knows, but it does seem as if he is solving some of the culture and recruiting issues we previously had.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:49 am to DoubleDawg22
I have heard that Saban does a better job than anyone of knowing where all of his players are 24/7 (apparently except when Cam Robinson went back to Louisiana) and if a player is as much as late to class they are running steps the next morning. If its deemed the player is never going to be a contributor he simply gives them more slack in their rope and lets them hang themselves.
Richt had the harshest penalties in the SEC. Crowell got in trouble for what? Pulled over smoking pot and a gun under his seat with the serial number filed down? Cam Robinson gets caught smoking pot with a stolen gun. One would assume a stolen gun and a gun with the serial number scratched out are the same thing. Given Crowell had a reputation of trouble and Cam may have been a perfect student athlete I don't know. Richt kicks Crow off the team, Saban says this is a first offense we are going to help the young man and make him attend drug awareness classes and blah blah blah.
You have to wonder if recruits ever thought "If I go to Georgia and make one mistake I am in big trouble but other schools it won't be such a big deal" On the other hand a lot of moms may have liked coach Richt because he loves Jesus and will keep their baby from being around a bunch of pot smoking trouble makers.
Richt had the harshest penalties in the SEC. Crowell got in trouble for what? Pulled over smoking pot and a gun under his seat with the serial number filed down? Cam Robinson gets caught smoking pot with a stolen gun. One would assume a stolen gun and a gun with the serial number scratched out are the same thing. Given Crowell had a reputation of trouble and Cam may have been a perfect student athlete I don't know. Richt kicks Crow off the team, Saban says this is a first offense we are going to help the young man and make him attend drug awareness classes and blah blah blah.
You have to wonder if recruits ever thought "If I go to Georgia and make one mistake I am in big trouble but other schools it won't be such a big deal" On the other hand a lot of moms may have liked coach Richt because he loves Jesus and will keep their baby from being around a bunch of pot smoking trouble makers.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 12:00 am to Buddy2012
I think Kirby used Ledbetter as an example on what he will do to help you straighten yourself out. I think Kirby will do whatever he can to help his players get back on their feet.
I know for a fact Alabama sends players to rehab. Two that are stars on this years Alabama team were in rehab with someone I personally know last year after the season was over with.
I know for a fact Alabama sends players to rehab. Two that are stars on this years Alabama team were in rehab with someone I personally know last year after the season was over with.
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