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Position group that will define our season
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:45 pm
If you can only pick one, what position group do you guys think will define our season??? I say O-line
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 8:53 pm
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:51 pm to BreezyDawg
Offensive line
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:45 pm to deeprig9
Offensive line. If that group takes a significant step forward and no other position drops off, then I think we win the East. If they don't improve, then who knows. We were very close to 11 wins last year despite a terrible line. Should have beaten Tech, Vandy, and Tennessee.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:23 pm to BreezyDawg
O-Coordinator...CJC's fat arse better step up.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:38 pm to ugastreaker
Well according to offseason talk, JC knows that and he is supposedly putting a little twist on the offenses to get more creative.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 11:22 pm to BreezyDawg
He said he was going to change and mix the offense up during the bowl game break and we still saw his run, run, pass, punt playbook. I think he is in way over his head.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:23 am to ugastreaker
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He said he was going to change and mix the offense up during the bowl game break and we still saw his run, run, pass, punt playbook. I think he is in way over his head.
I'm afraid you're right. I hope he's on a short lease.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 6:23 am to BreezyDawg
OL. Nothing else particularly close.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 7:20 am to Crowknowsbest
If the OL perform Chaney will look a lot better. We aren't going to do things much different than we did last year, it's all about execution.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 7:33 am to BreezyDawg
quote:Looks like that twist is going to be some RPOs.
he is supposedly putting a little twist on the offenses to get more creative.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 7:49 am to BreezyDawg
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Position group that will define our seasonIf you can only pick one, what position group do you guys think will define our season??? I say O-line
Agree. And it seems like the OL has been the limiting factor on many UGA football teams over the years. And in general I would say that Richt during his 15 years was a lot better at recruiting skill players compared to the beef in the trenches though granted we have had some outstanding individual OL and DL; just not enough of them.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 7:50 am to BreezyDawg
Special Teams
Posted on 3/24/17 at 10:52 am to ugastreaker
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He said he was going to change and mix the offense up during the bowl game break and we still saw his run, run, pass, punt playbook
The run game worked against TCU and there was no reason to go away from it
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:04 pm to BreezyDawg
Offensive Line. It's time for the hire of the alleged best OL coach in college football to start paying some dividends.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:55 pm to SumterCoDawg
RPO's are where it's at! The right run scheme with the correct pass routes equates to unstoppable offense. All of the pressure is on Jacob Eason to make the right reads.
I don't ever remember seeing JE mesh on his highlight tapes. Not overly difficult, but it takes a lot of practice.
I don't ever remember seeing JE mesh on his highlight tapes. Not overly difficult, but it takes a lot of practice.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 2:03 pm to DoubleDawg22
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RPO's are where it's at! The right run scheme with the correct pass routes equates to unstoppable offense
Might want to slow that one down a bit... I believe I recall Richt discussing RPOs being a significant part of our 2015 offense... Definitely wouldn't call that something that even remotely approached unstoppable...
The other thing to keep in mind is both of those options will be more or less useless if the offensive line doesn't hold up. Running requires blocking for any meaningful production across a season and the best wide receivers running perfect routes won't mean shite if Eason is scrambling for his life.
The long and short of it is no "single position" group makes the engine fire, but if you're looking for the position group that is likely to have the most impact with significant improvement, it has to be the OL. After that, it's probably a hodge podge of QB, WR, and Jim Chaney's play calling. I don't anticipate the RB position "improving" from a skills perspective, but certainly the play calling and blocking could drastically impact performance.
ETA: I kind of just ignored Defense there, largely due to diminishing returns/room to improve. We've certainly got room to improve, but there wasn't a unit that was just an unmitigated disaster like OL was last season. From a personal perspective, I think we *need* to see Lorenzo Carter and Davin Bellamy have big seasons this year... If those guys take the next step, we probably jump closer to the average 3 sacks/game rate that would have been about top 15-ish in the NCAA last season. The DBs will have a lot to prove, but there are just so many bodies there and only having to replace Mo Smith and Quincy Mauger this season...
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 2:20 pm to fibonaccisquared
Just to be clear, I never read your entire post but I will respond to the first paragraph. To be clear, I posted about my love for RPO's not really about Chaney using or calling them more. That was Sumter.
You don't have to use RPO's a lot for them to drastically impact the game. Depending on the players you are reading, tunning them 2-3 times a game can have a great affect on a defense. For example, ILB's are taught to flow with the RB. RPO's force those guys to flow and when they do you pull and throw to the WR in the open space vacated by the flowing LB's.
RPO's will slow down the flow and open the run game or you keep hashing them with the pass. Really simple. It is a vertical form of option football.
You don't have to use RPO's a lot for them to drastically impact the game. Depending on the players you are reading, tunning them 2-3 times a game can have a great affect on a defense. For example, ILB's are taught to flow with the RB. RPO's force those guys to flow and when they do you pull and throw to the WR in the open space vacated by the flowing LB's.
RPO's will slow down the flow and open the run game or you keep hashing them with the pass. Really simple. It is a vertical form of option football.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:13 pm to DoubleDawg22
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Just to be clear I can't read good
Cool... I'm fully aware some of my posts are excessive, but damn man. If you can't read 7 sentences or so (excluding the edit to add for defense) wtf are you even doing here?
No one is arguing that RPOs are not impactful... Simply that your assessment that it will be all on Eason is inaccurate... yes he has to make good reads, but it's also vastly dependent on the offensive line performance. If Eason makes the right read but the line fails to block appropriately, welp...
If you want to try and claim intellectual superiority, it would help if you pulled your head out of your arse first.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:47 pm to DoubleDawg22
I've watched a decent amount of football in my life. The best college offense I've ever seen was 2008 Oklahoma and the best NFL offense I've ever seen was 1998 Minnesota.
What these two teams did so well was keep defenses off balance. They could both run and throw very well and you never knew what was coming on a given down. Since we're talking college, I'll focus on Oklahoma.
The real key to their offense was their ability to run power and spread without changing personnel. Their tight ends were so good and so versatile, they could line up 5 wide (1 WR, 3 TE, DeMarco Murray) and if you put a dime defense on the field to defend the pass, they could go no huddle and run power football against that same dime package and the defense was just fricked.
Their OC was Kevin Wilson. He was available this offseason. With our depth and talent at TE, I'd have sent Chaney packing and written Wilson a blank check to come run that same offense here.
What these two teams did so well was keep defenses off balance. They could both run and throw very well and you never knew what was coming on a given down. Since we're talking college, I'll focus on Oklahoma.
The real key to their offense was their ability to run power and spread without changing personnel. Their tight ends were so good and so versatile, they could line up 5 wide (1 WR, 3 TE, DeMarco Murray) and if you put a dime defense on the field to defend the pass, they could go no huddle and run power football against that same dime package and the defense was just fricked.
Their OC was Kevin Wilson. He was available this offseason. With our depth and talent at TE, I'd have sent Chaney packing and written Wilson a blank check to come run that same offense here.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:15 pm to VADawg
The best OC's self scout and know their own tendencies and are able to break them. A lot of times breaking of these tendencies go unnoticed to the fan but they totally mess with the opposing D.C. Most of their calls are based off of the tendency of the other coaches.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 7:07 pm
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