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re: Poli Board - Get your poop together Atlanta

Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:27 am to
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:27 am to
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I can smell the queer SJW through the screen


I definitely wouldn't put myself personally in the SJW camp, but I think there's also a difference between needing a safe space and also just being respectful to other human beings.

I mean, why do you feel the need to call someone a queer in a derogatory manner? Same goes when people use the terms "fig" or "gay" as an interchangeable word for stupid. It's just disrespectful more than anything, and I'm a conservative. I just think that really hurts our cause on our other things when we're so insensitive to stuff like this.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:49 am to
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<----------grew up not far from where the article discusses...like until I was in my 20's...moved to South Georgia while serving my country and ended up liking it better...because of what I saw "changing" up north...you seek to make me look like an inbred backwoods sister fricker every time you get the chance....its quite humorous given that I'm actually pretty familiar about the very area in question here...can you truly say that of where I live...without making dumbass comments like the above quoted?



I grew up in South, GA and have many, many relatives there. I know all about the mindset there. You're in a fish bowl. You have to go along with the consensus or you're shunned, personally and professionally. That's why the intellectual pool is so shallow.

The demographic of ITP Atlanta is changing. Whites are flocking to the city and areas like Smyrna, Roswell, Vinings, Decatur, etc.

Atlanta is becoming one of the most racially and socially diverse cities in the South, and that's a good thing. I even have "queer" friends and neighbors. Although I like to refer to them as homosexual. You'd be surprised to know that they are a lot like you and me......well, maybe not you, if you sit down and talk to them. To call a homosexual a "queer" is equivalent to calling a black person a "****". It's just doesn't help anything.

Why don't you South Georgians quit the pokes at Atlanta. We know it comes from insecurity. We don't make fun of Albany, Valdosta, Cordele, Moultrie, Brunswick, Tifton, Bainbridge, etc. where education is horrible and crime rates are staggering. If you don't like Atlanta, just stay in the gnat belt. But you better be thankful for Atlanta. Without it Georgia would be a lot like Mississippi, and would be the laughing stock of the US.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 10:50 am
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:22 am to
Direct to patient drug advertising has hurt today because they can make more claims that may be a little dubious to mislead people. And then patients come in expecting this new 'miracle drug' (understandable after some of the commercials etc) and will just find someone willing to prescribe it.

And you're exactly right about generics. The misconception that they're not as good is crazy. Then there's the minimal tweaks to make a new 'better' brand drug to get patent again which is always shady. Especially since I'm sure it was planned early on when the precursor was being developed.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:05 pm to
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where education is horrible and crime rates are staggering


well there's a blanket statement and a stereo type if I have ever seen one..

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Atlanta is becoming one of the most racially and socially diverse cities in the South


then why are race relations worse up there than where I live?..to be honest...black and white are less of an issue here than they are in either of the towns my parents live in the metro Atlanta area

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We know it comes from insecurity.


have lived in both...prefer South Georgia...when it takes an hour to get 10 miles down the highway...that's too many GD people for me...has nothing to do with culture

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Without it Georgia would be a lot like Mississippi



...um no

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ITP Atlanta


stayed away from there when I was living up north (unless there was a Braves game going on)...even 20 years ago it was like a different country

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To call a homosexual a "queer" is equivalent to calling a black person a "****".



wrong...not the same...I hate that argument..if I was black I would be very offended at all the "open minded" folks using what black folks have gone through and comparing it to LGBT issues...what a slap in the face

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I know all about the mindset there.


obviously you don't
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42453 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:24 pm to
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I hate that argument..if I was black I would be very offended at all the "open minded" folks using what black folks have gone through and comparing it to LGBT issues...what a slap in the face


I mean, it obviously isn't the same, but I think it's also ridiculous to act like LGBT people haven't endured any sort of suffering or prejudice, especially in the south.
Posted by PNW
Northern Rockies
Member since Mar 2014
6193 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:58 pm to
You don't have many friends, I assume.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26172 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:51 pm to
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Same goes when people use the terms "fig" or "gay" as an interchangeable word for stupid.


Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63825 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:36 pm to
Idea:

Forced HSA as a payroll tax.

Unused balance rolls over. Over and over, building up over time, decades, until you get older and have to start using it, while still replenishing it paycheck to paycheck.

Purchase high deductible catastrophic insurance to cover anything that happens that costs more than what you have in your hsa.

If you die with money still in your hsa, it goes to your heirs tax free.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:14 pm to
Didn't you live in McDonough or somewhere like that?

Metro Atlanta is better off that you like South, GA better. Stay there and we'll all be better off for it.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 7:07 am to
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The demographics of those places aren't even comparable to the US. Apples to oranges. We're way fatter, for one thing. If we had a homogenous and healthy population, our costs would be a lot lower.



yes we are...and a big part of the reason is that those countries recognize how big a threat an unhealthy population is so they spend money on things like swimmimg pools (every town of any size in Europe has a public, indoor pool open year round) and bicycle paths and sidewalks in the country so folks can walk and not drive and don't have to worry about getting run over.

The problem is that NONE of the nations on earth other than ours has to pay much if anything for their own defense...so they use those resources to subsidize industry and build bicycle paths....while we work more hours and have less time off and laugh at the stupid bastards in Germany for being "socialists" while we die younger and work harder while alive....and live a similar life style...
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:45 am to
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Stay there and we'll all be better off for it.


ok photodawg...will do...
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:20 pm to
Good. And why don't you and Jefferson get married. That way you can both sit around and complain all day about a place where neither of you live.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9403 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 4:11 pm to
What is a swimming pool and why don't we have them in America?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44671 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 6:40 pm to
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Liberals, on the other hand, take more of a punitive or destructive view of economics, wherein they want to tear down the rich and give their money to the poor rather than encouraging the poor to build themselves up. This view often does center around the poor, but Conservatives like myself don't agree that it is beneficial in the long run because it incentivizes poverty and discourages wealth or work that leads to more wealth accumulation.


This is the truth. The basic principle of liberal econonics is to take money from people who have earned it and give it to people who haven't.
Posted by DoubleDawg22
Member since Dec 2016
1572 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:25 am to
The liberal policy of give to the poor is a major reason we have many of the problems we have today.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 5:43 am
Posted by DoubleDawg22
Member since Dec 2016
1572 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:29 am to
Let's be real here, just because their are a million different races, ethnicities, and that the people look different does not make Atlanta diverse.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 5:30 am
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42453 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:34 am to
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The liberal policy of give to the poor is a major reason we have many of the problems we have today.


TBH, this should be a conservative Christian policy as well. Just not mandated by the government.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44671 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:39 am to
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TBH, this should be a conservative Christian policy as well. Just not mandated by the government.


I disagree. If I busted my arse through college to be in a position to make decent money, why should I feel obligated to give some away to someone on welfare who doesn't want to get a job?
Posted by DoubleDawg22
Member since Dec 2016
1572 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:41 am to
I would disagree as well. My faith is the most important thing in my life. My wife and I tithe our 10% to the church and let the church use it to grow the kingdom. We do not give it out as a handout to people who refuse to work.

When we tithe, we expect that money to go to pay the workers of the church, to build church buildings, to host church activities not to be given to enable people that's not responsible nor is it "the Christian thing to do."

I don't want to get into a church debate but that's my personal response to your statement.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 11:42 am
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 12:23 pm to
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someone on welfare who doesn't want to get a job

This is probably the single most misunderstood or misrepresented aspect of poverty. *Most* (read: not all... there are always outliers) people don't want to be poor and/or be a sponge on the system.
The way things are setup currently, there is not a real "graduated scale of assistance". You either get something, or you get nothing. The result of this is that someone who say would like to get a job but can only get one that pays minimum wage and beyond that they aren't given full time hours... say 30 hours a week. That's someone who's trying to be productive... however the way things are setup looks a little like this:

Now that they're earning that whopping 217.50 a week (assuming they don't miss any time or get asked to leave early because it's slow), they are earning 11,310 annually if they never take any time off. Of that, approximately 7.65% goes to FICA, so we're left with ~10,450 before accounting for actual tax contributions (we'll say they're negligible at that level of income though). The rub though is because they're not full time, they don't have access to healthcare benefits from the employer but they also lost their Medicaid. So either they're now shelling out half of their income to cover insurance that has a deductible that likely equates to half of their annual income, or they go without insurance. And that's just one source of a negative cycle.

It's not impossible to get out of that cycle, but it's pretty effing difficult. It's a lot easier to say pull yourself up by your bootstraps than to actually do it. There's all these amazing stories of people who are able to pull it off, but when you listen to their stories, they were on a razor's edge. The margin between success and failure is so slim.


I've said this before, but ultimately people will by and large act in a manner in which they are incentivized. If there was actual effort put into place that puts hard limits on the duration of time that someone can reap full benefits, and more "laddered" benefits for people that are working to better themselves and/or their families this would likely go a long way. There's your carrot, which is usually best accompanied with a stick, say gradual decreases in benefits for someone who doesn't meet minimum thresholds for "trying" for example.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 12:25 pm
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