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re: Poli Board - Get your poop together Atlanta
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:50 pm to DawgCountry
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:50 pm to DawgCountry
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thinking your way is the only way for "progess"
Please explain to me the conservative "way for progress." It's an oxymoron.
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:54 pm to PNW
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You people need to get out and see the world, and take your republican goggles off in the meantime. In fact, get out of the Deep South and you'll see it. There are so many different cultures in the states alone so quit being so narrow minded...
Liberal insults conservatives for being narrow-minded. Never seen that before.
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this has nothing to do with welfare and government handouts.
People vote for what they think helps their wallet. It has everything to do with welfare and government handouts.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:57 pm to PNW
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Please explain to me the conservative "way for progress." It's an oxymoron.
IDK about the official Republican platform, but the actual conservative way would be to let people live their lives as they choose.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:00 pm to Crowknowsbest
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IDK about the official Republican platform, but the actual conservative way would be to let people live their lives as they choose.
So to stay on topic, isn't immigration a choice?
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:00 pm to Crowknowsbest
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IDK about the official Republican platform, but the actual conservative way would be to let people live their lives as they choose.
Pretty much. Reducing regulations and lowering taxes allowing for greater economic freedom and ability to take advantage of free markets.
I'll say that I'm pretty liberal when it comes to social issues. Not like, activist level. But more in a "live and let live" kind of way, as you alluded to.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:01 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Liberal insults conservatives for being narrow-minded. Never seen that before.
Liberals are adamantly for open-mindedness as long as it doesn't conflict with anything they believe.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:08 pm to PNW
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So to stay on topic, isn't immigration a choice?
Sure, but it's also a choice for people to vote to set certain procedures for legitimate and legal immigration. Those people aren't our citizens. The US doesn't have any moral obligation to allow people from other countries to come here freely.
Economically, immigration works to our advantage, but a basic vetting process isn't unreasonable.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:12 pm to PNW
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isn't immigration a choice?
when legal
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:12 pm to PNW
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Please explain to me the conservative "way for progress." It's an oxymoron
wow. so open-minded of you
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:15 pm to DawgCountry
The term conservative literally means the opposite of progressive. I kid you not.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:17 pm to Crowknowsbest
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The US doesn't have any moral obligation to allow people from other countries to come here freely.
If only the natives had a governmental system in place to kick us out hundreds of years ago; we wouldn't be here today bitching about what is and isn't legal.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:18 pm to DawgCountry
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when legal
I'm assuming Cobb County is turning blue due to legal immigrants then. I don't know why this is an issue, as the OP indicates.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:20 pm to PNW
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If only the natives had a governmental system in place to kick us out hundreds of years ago; we wouldn't be here today bitching about what is and isn't legal.
They would have been well within their rights to do so.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:30 pm to SthGADawg
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I can smell the queer
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:38 pm to BranchDawg
Every one of these discussions here devolves into this same garbage... Libs this, Conservatives that... Red team/Blue Team... For those of us that live somewhere in the middle it's pretty effing ridiculous. I can't really wrap my head around why "we" as a society find this so difficult to work toward the middle rather than running toward diametrically polar positions.
Some things can be better served by allowing an open market to dictate the outcomes, others less so. I'll take two less extreme stances for example (we'll leave abortions and gay rights for someone who wants to play Sisyphus to die on that hill.) Decreased regulations isn't exactly going to do much for our environment for example (often a conservative agenda item), since trees can't vote, but the fact that people are too stupid to understand what is/isn't in their own best interest doesn't necessitate that there should be little to no environmental regulations. Alternatively, introducing higher mandatory minimum wages (a popular liberal agenda item) economically makes no sense...
Too many sheeple of both party affiliation allow themselves to be manipulated by what is red/blue vs what is/isn't in their interest, or at the very least in the interests of the majority and maybe isn't a significant burden on those that it isn't directly improving things for.
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This goes back to the old Tolerance of Intolerance/Intolerance of Tolerance argument... One can be tolerant/open-minded without agreeing with a viewpoint or even accepting that it has substance.
Note: This does apply to both parties, but generally it's turned back on liberals more often, given that Conservatives don't exactly use open-mindedness as a key selling point for their position (not saying right or wrong - just kind of is what it is).
Some things can be better served by allowing an open market to dictate the outcomes, others less so. I'll take two less extreme stances for example (we'll leave abortions and gay rights for someone who wants to play Sisyphus to die on that hill.) Decreased regulations isn't exactly going to do much for our environment for example (often a conservative agenda item), since trees can't vote, but the fact that people are too stupid to understand what is/isn't in their own best interest doesn't necessitate that there should be little to no environmental regulations. Alternatively, introducing higher mandatory minimum wages (a popular liberal agenda item) economically makes no sense...
Too many sheeple of both party affiliation allow themselves to be manipulated by what is red/blue vs what is/isn't in their interest, or at the very least in the interests of the majority and maybe isn't a significant burden on those that it isn't directly improving things for.
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Liberals are adamantly for open-mindedness as long as it doesn't conflict with anything they believe.
This goes back to the old Tolerance of Intolerance/Intolerance of Tolerance argument... One can be tolerant/open-minded without agreeing with a viewpoint or even accepting that it has substance.
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"Some opinions are well-formed and intelligently reasoned; others are off-the-cuff and ignorant. Some are the products of considered thought and debate; others are no more than slogans spouted by folks who insist on using their mouths more than their heads. Tolerance means being willing to listen to others; it does not mean you have to agree with them or, after hearing their viewpoint, even take them seriously. "
Note: This does apply to both parties, but generally it's turned back on liberals more often, given that Conservatives don't exactly use open-mindedness as a key selling point for their position (not saying right or wrong - just kind of is what it is).
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:12 pm to PNW
Progress how exactly? Like Greece, Sweden, Belgium, Germany and France? No thank you. Much like others here, I have lived all over the world. I have seen socialism at its worst. The Brits were sick of it and the European Union, thus Brexit. Most of the other countries are starting to get there as well. How many foreign nations have you lived in?
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:22 pm to olddawg26
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olddawg26
just calling a spade a spade
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:46 pm to SumterCoDawg
SP hijack thread time?
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:55 pm to olddawg26
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