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re: OT: Gwinnett County House Fire

Posted on 2/11/16 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

....to S1C EM)

I call shenanigans, too. Something doesn't add up, and it didn't from the moment the the story was reported.

This is from Vox Dawg's post to you. He says, " I call shenanigans too".

THe key word being "too". Because he, like everybody else, understands that you started this thread to question the father who just lost everything and to imply that there was foul play. Even though you are now panicking, freaking out, and claiming otherwise.
Posted by Dr Dawg
Toccoa, Ga
Member since Feb 2011
283 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 5:41 pm to
My concerns are that there is an obvious front porch with windows over it from the 2nd floor. If this occurred as described, and the mother and children are concious as they were stated to be when he left, why did they not escape. I have just seen so much evil in this world that I would not just write this off as an accident. The autopsy of the victims will be key in deciding foul play or horrific accident.

I don't know how anyone in the society that we live in can give anyone the benefit of the doubt in ANYTHING. if you do, you do so at your own peril.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 6:02 pm to
Right, right, right....

I completely forgot that you had everybody figured out already. You know all about our motives, etc.








Except GATA. Oh, and HRD. Those two owned you hard. Better get that RA button ready to go!
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 6:02 pm
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

The autopsy of the victims will be key in deciding foul play or horrific accident.

So there will be plenty of time after the autopsy to wag fingers then, right?

IN the meantime, which do you think would be more painful....A) Burning to death?.. or B) Being falsely accused of murdering your family / not doing enough to save them from burning to death?

I'm gonna go with "B".
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

I completely forgot that you had everybody figured out already.

Honestly, I think I may have this one figured out pretty good.

Basically, you're unable to handle a discussion like an adult for some reason, so you've just started repeating something about RA'ing and whatnot over and over.

Right? Kind of like that robot Rubio that malfunctioned last Saturday night.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:23 pm to
In case you've missed it (due to all your Devil's advocate spin), I pretty clearly explained my thoughts on this and that I was interested in others' thoughts on it. That doesn't mean whatever you think it means.

My reference to your habitual RA'ing of threads is called me knowing how you handle things when you don't like what's being said. You're a petulant child; the very definition of a tattletale. And it's pretty clear that you enjoy stirring the pot...until some of the slop finds its way on to you.

But go ahead. Keep digging around. You've got nothing better to do. We know.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

In case you've missed it, I pretty clearly explained my thoughts on this and that I was interested in others' thoughts on it.

....Right up until someone disagrees with you.

At which point they are then told to frick off, are called a pile of shite, a petulant child, a tattle tale, some other childish shite i don;t remember, with repetitive robot references to the RA button and assorted e-soap opera lameness I could give a frick about. Basically, just a bunch of spiteful nonsense none of which has anything to do with the topic at hand.

Nice work! You should run for president.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32787 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:52 pm to
A. Would be more painful.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:51 am to
Hey Jeff, just a little wake-up call for you....YOU were the one who came in and insinuated that everyone here was "vicious" and "fricked up" for simply asking a very valid question based on the information at hand. We're all "ivory tower super dads", remember (and you meant that in the most condescending way possible)?

I posed my thoughts on this in about as respectful a way as I could. And don't mistake my all caps for me yelling at you or whatever you think it means. I was simply highlighting and emphasizing the points that you were clearly missing (and still are). Part of being an "adult" and having an "adult conversation" means being able ask and address tough and uncomfortable questions. You clearly don't like that the questions are being asked here because we might offend or somehow insult a father who just lost his family (because I'm certain he's here now, perusing these message boards ). If YOU don't like the question, don't interject your BS into the conversation. Most folks here already know your schtick. You are the opposing, holier-than-thou voice on just about every topic. Sometimes, you make good points. I give credit where due. But when you enter into this discussion just to belittle those asking the question here, that's on you. And you probably have already RA'd me. That's not even a joke. I'll check with Lew. You do it anytime someone steps on your toes and that's what my reference is to. That is the behavior of a petulant child. Your existence here sums it up pretty well.
This post was edited on 2/12/16 at 8:31 am
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:12 am to
There's no way I'm reading all that whiny garbage. You've lost your shite here in a complete meltdown. Congrats.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:13 am to
When you have a few minutes to frick around, go to youtube and search "backdraft fires". There's a bunch of 30 second videos that are pretty crazy...
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:27 am to
Good, the feeling is mutual concerning your own drivel.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:29 am to
quote:

When you have a few minutes to frick around, go to youtube and search "backdraft fires". There's a bunch of 30 second videos that are pretty crazy...


Except.....it wouldn't have happened if the door wasn't opened. Hmmm.....

I grew up around firefighters. I still work regularly with a couple. Even they feel like the account of events doesn't make sense. But hell, what do they know?

You go ahead and educate yourself with Ron Howard and let me know how that works out for ya. Better yet, don't.
Posted by WhopperDawg
Member since Aug 2013
3073 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:47 am to
No one knows what happened.

I do know I am not exiting a burning house without my daughter whatever the cost to me.

Ain't happening.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 8:50 am to
quote:

I do know I am not exiting a burning house without my daughter whatever the cost to me.

Ain't happening.


And this is my point entirely. I could never go to that door without my family going with me. You just came down the stairs, so presumably, they are not on fire, nor is the upstairs yet (because you just came from there). You go back up, usher them out, and you exit together.
Posted by Dr Dawg
Toccoa, Ga
Member since Feb 2011
283 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 9:53 am to
quote:

IN the meantime, which do you think would be more painful....A) Burning to death?.. or B) Being falsely accused of murdering your family / not doing enough to save them from burning to death?


Only suspicious no accusation. If you take the story at face value, then your reasonable deduction skills are somewhat lacking or you are extremely naive.

By the way A is so much worse than B. Obviously you have never seen or been around someone with a significant burn.
Posted by TrackDawg
Sugar Hill
Member since Sep 2013
966 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 10:41 am to
They were patients of my wife. Prayers sent.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

If you take the story at face value, then your reasonable deduction skills are somewhat lacking or you are extremely naive.

But I'm not a coroner...... nor am I trying to buy a used car from this guy.

A mother and two children were burned alive.

So not joining an internet lynch mob or the super dad's arm-chair QB society over it doesn't make me naive. It's just simple respect for the awfulness of the situation is all.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 9:32 am to
I thought the same thing but, after reading the report, you have to give the guy the benefit of doubt. Maybe he couldn't think straight or get back upstairs. Very odd tragedy. Says police don't suspect foul play but they'll investigate anyway, since insurance and deaths are involved. Those guys are very thorough.
This post was edited on 2/15/16 at 9:43 am
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 9:48 am to
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