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re: OT - I hope y'all are ready for President Clinton *gag*
Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:40 am to Dawgsontop34
Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:40 am to Dawgsontop34
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Bad phrasing on my part.
Well, we are both agreeing that we don't have a good choice for President. It's like choosing if you want your right hand cut off or your left.
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:42 am to DawgsLife
HRC is much more likely to get me and my kids involved in WW3 than Trump.
HRC is much more likely to put us into an economic disaster than Trump.
HRC will do much more damage to the Constution than Trump.
Trumps a buffoon...but I honestly believe these things.
HRC is much more likely to put us into an economic disaster than Trump.
HRC will do much more damage to the Constution than Trump.
Trumps a buffoon...but I honestly believe these things.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:43 am to RocketDawg
Politics brings out the worst in some people. You're calling out one of the best posters on the rant. Dawgsontop34 does a lot for this site (see recruiting). He's always courteous and goes out of his way to be nice to people. Just because he has a different view point than yours doesn't mean you have to go all Trump on him.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:49 am to Dawgsontop34
What most people don't realize is that Trump has switched parties several times. He changes when it's financially and/or politically expedient for him. Cracks me up that he has such a fan base among the poor and middle-class southern whites. He couldn't care less about them. He even criticizes former POW's. The man is the pure definition of a megalomaniac.
The Republican Party has galvanized a lot of votes by scaring people with the 2nd amendment controversy. And it's worked beautifully. A lot of yahoos actually believe the the government is coming after their guns. That never would or could happen and there are far, far more serious matters on the table than guns.
In order for any POTUS to get anything done, he or she has to have Congressional support, from both parties. Trump has managed to even alienate members of his own party, so he sure as hell wouldn't be able to do anything from the Oval Office, except embarrass his own party. I, as a Republican, am very thankful that he has absolutely zero chance of winning. Maybe this will finally be a lesson to the party, and the next nominee will be somebody worthy of the nomination. I'm voting for Hillary so that the Republican Party can regroup in the next election. If Trump won, the party would take years to heal.
The Republican Party has galvanized a lot of votes by scaring people with the 2nd amendment controversy. And it's worked beautifully. A lot of yahoos actually believe the the government is coming after their guns. That never would or could happen and there are far, far more serious matters on the table than guns.
In order for any POTUS to get anything done, he or she has to have Congressional support, from both parties. Trump has managed to even alienate members of his own party, so he sure as hell wouldn't be able to do anything from the Oval Office, except embarrass his own party. I, as a Republican, am very thankful that he has absolutely zero chance of winning. Maybe this will finally be a lesson to the party, and the next nominee will be somebody worthy of the nomination. I'm voting for Hillary so that the Republican Party can regroup in the next election. If Trump won, the party would take years to heal.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:56 am to DawgsLife
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Well, we are both agreeing that we don't have a good choice for President. It's like choosing if you want your right hand cut off or your left.
Yeah, I think we have pretty similar views on this in general. I believe you're a man of faith and I'm sure that has a profound impact on the way you're viewing this election. It's really unfortunate that we (as conservatives) blew such an easy election to win.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:58 am to JakeScott
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JakeScott
Appreciate that man, but don't worry about it. People are allowed to say what they want. Just one of the many great things about this country. Would I prefer he handled it a different way? Sure. But Politics can rile some people up, and I understand that it has a profound impact on many people's lives. It's just such a switch in this election to see Dems talk about how great America is and Reps talk about what a terrible country we are.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:01 pm to SquatchDawg
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HRC is much more likely to get me and my kids involved in WW3 than Trump.
HRC is much more likely to put us into an economic disaster than Trump.
HRC will do much more damage to the Constution than Trump.
Trumps a buffoon...but I honestly believe these things.
Actually, I think they will both do those things. But, neither of us know for sure. Only time will tell. I just dread 4 years of seeing HRC's face and screeching. My stomach is churning just thinking about it.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:06 pm to Cobb Dawg
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The Republican Party has galvanized a lot of votes by scaring people with the 2nd amendment controversy. And it's worked beautifully. A lot of yahoos actually believe the the government is coming after their guns. That never would or could happen and there are far, far more serious matters on the table than guns.
I am by no stretch a gun nut, but if you read direct quotes from many in the Democratic Party, you will see that that is what is intended. Not to remove them from gun owners, but to make it fiscally impossible to own one. They want to put a 25% tax on guns. they want to make gun manufacturers liable for crimes committed with guns. Sounds like they want to do away with guns to me.
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In order for any POTUS to get anything done, he or she has to have Congressional support, from both parties.
Not anymore. Obama got a LOT of things done through executive order while he was President, and Hillery has already said she would do the same in regards to gun control.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:15 pm to Dawgsontop34
I was actually in line voting when I typed the last message. This is not a racist issue but let me say this, there were five ladies behind me four black and one white. All elderly and the four black ladies told the white lady that she had to vote for Hillary because Trumps wife was not really his wife. He borrowed her to run and win this election. What the hell? They then told her to read her Bible! What Trumps in the Bible now?
Anybody can make assumptions on what Trump will do but Hillary has proven she is a liar and a cheat that will say and do anything to hold onto power! Don't be fooled by the media and do some research on the topic. Hillary will not get much support from the military, border agents, FBI etc and those are the people that know she is a shite for brains with no business running this country and the fact is hat Trump even has a chance is a testement to that.
Anybody can make assumptions on what Trump will do but Hillary has proven she is a liar and a cheat that will say and do anything to hold onto power! Don't be fooled by the media and do some research on the topic. Hillary will not get much support from the military, border agents, FBI etc and those are the people that know she is a shite for brains with no business running this country and the fact is hat Trump even has a chance is a testement to that.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:21 pm to RocketDawg
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RocketDawg
You seem to be too emotional to have rational discourse. Friendly fire is too common among people that actually share way more in common than they think. You talk about the left (half the country) as if they hate the United States and that's simply not true. I'm sure you could point to some idiots, but anyone can do that from either side. You gotta stop with the "libtard" crap or assuming just because someone has one certain opinion then they immediately have to follow this pre made chart and believe EVERYTHING that certain side believes. It leads to us turning on each other and not getting anything done. The people, regardless of political affiliation, have way more in common with each other than they do with the government leaders, regardless of political affiliation.
Also your little racial story is supid. Those ladies sound ignorant, but do you really think no one has said some ignorant shite regarding race about Obama? Christ you can't call out the other side without looking around you first. I live and opporate in a white southern circle and I hear what's said, don't pretend either side is innocent of racial bullshite.
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:54 pm to DawgsLife
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Not anymore. Obama got a LOT of things done through executive order while he was President, and Hillery has already said she would do the same in regards to gun control.
I've heard this said by some on the far right. What, specifically, did Obama do without Congressional approval, outside the Constitution? And why aren't people like Newt Gingrich bringing it up regularly?
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:13 pm to Dawgsontop34
quote:and you base this off of what? A few speeches and three debates? You do know Bill Clinton lost his nuclear codes otherwise know as the biscuit and Hillary has lied more times than she has taken breaths so you trust her with them?
Trump is a petulant child, and as conservative as I am, and as much as I hate Hillary I don't trust that man at all to hold the nuclear codes,
I see now it makes all the sense in world. Trump loves himself and so let's start a nuclear war which a war without a winner! It is obvious you are either pro Hillary or just being lead around by fear and propaganda. I would respect you more if you just said she is my candidate and not gone through the rest of shite in trying to convince us that you would have voted for any republican but Trump. Hillary is clearly not the lesser of the two evils.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:20 pm to Cobb Dawg
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What, specifically, did Obama do without Congressional approval
Selectively enforce and ignore laws (immigatraion and deportation of illegals), regulate industries out of existence that do not meet his political agenda (coal), directing the IRS to target political groups that do not agree with his political agenda, shutdown the Gibson guitar factory for violating India internal laws concerning a particular wood used for fret boards and waged war with no Congressional approval nor declaration of war.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:26 pm to olddawg26
quote:Do tell...are there signs in your front yard advertising fortune telling. You can tell all you need to know about me from a message on a sports board? Well let me read you then. I'm guessing your that old white guy that prides yourself as being educated and somewhat of a protector of the less fortunate. You stand around in circles listening to white southern men talk then come back on sports boards and point said stories out as racism.
You seem to be too emotional to have rational discourse.
The point of my little racial story is this poor people as these ladies APPEARD to be are lead to believe this shite, they are lead to believe if a republican goes into office they will lose all social intitlements and that the big bad boogie man will come get them. These people were not the Internet type so someone or some group has been feeding them this crap for sometime. It has long been know that the Democrats pray on the fears of the poor with the big bad racist white man will come get your benefits if you elect them. Meanwhile what in the hell do democrats do for them? Show me how they are better off today than when Obama came into office? Please I'm all for an education.
Name five things Hillary has accomplished in her lifetime of public office and please tell how you feel her finger on the nuclear button would allow you to sleep better at night. For all I know she may not even answer that call just like she left her own Ambassador to fend for himself.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:33 pm to RocketDawg
This thread is mortifying. A total real life nightmare with no end. It's the Walking Dead come true. Just total fricking zombies.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:34 pm to RocketDawg
By the looks of your response I hit the nail on the head about your personality. We're not so different you and I. Deep breaths. Deep breaths.
Yes I do try and look out for less fortunate people I don't get why that would be a bad characteristic to have. Please explain.
I'm voting for trump, but I'm not excited about either of these upcoming potential presidencies.
Edit - I'm like 70% and trump. Not completely sold
Yes I do try and look out for less fortunate people I don't get why that would be a bad characteristic to have. Please explain.
I'm voting for trump, but I'm not excited about either of these upcoming potential presidencies.
Edit - I'm like 70% and trump. Not completely sold
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:34 pm to RocketDawg
I'm with 34 in this respect.
ANY other candidate would have crushed Hilary. The Republican party is in bad shape when this is their guy. No leadership. The party has known for 8 years that Hilary would be the likely opponent. Instead of finding a great candidate to destroy her, they had way too many candidates hurting the chances of a party line guy and let a rogue outsider win.
Now we all suffer because the party was disorganized and split.
The Dems were equally split but did not allow the rogue outsider (Bernie) to win. They put what they considered to be their best candidate out there. Possibly in illegal fashion. But they don't care, they want to WIN.
ANY other candidate would have crushed Hilary. The Republican party is in bad shape when this is their guy. No leadership. The party has known for 8 years that Hilary would be the likely opponent. Instead of finding a great candidate to destroy her, they had way too many candidates hurting the chances of a party line guy and let a rogue outsider win.
Now we all suffer because the party was disorganized and split.
The Dems were equally split but did not allow the rogue outsider (Bernie) to win. They put what they considered to be their best candidate out there. Possibly in illegal fashion. But they don't care, they want to WIN.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:37 pm to RocketDawg
Based on your spelling and grammar, it does not surprise me in the slightest that you are voting for Trump.
I felt like I was more than respectful of you, and also completely honest. I'm not positive I could have voted for Cruz, because IMO he's a sleaze bag, but I'm a pretty staunch conservative and I can't vote for Clinton because of her beliefs on abortion more than anything else. I disagree a ton with her on the economy, taxes, and foreign policy, but still probably think she's a better candidate than Trump. That's how bad I believe Trump is, and there are a ton of other conservatives that feel the same way.
And if you don't want me to base my feelings for Donald off his speeches, debates, and actions, what do you want me to base them off of?
I felt like I was more than respectful of you, and also completely honest. I'm not positive I could have voted for Cruz, because IMO he's a sleaze bag, but I'm a pretty staunch conservative and I can't vote for Clinton because of her beliefs on abortion more than anything else. I disagree a ton with her on the economy, taxes, and foreign policy, but still probably think she's a better candidate than Trump. That's how bad I believe Trump is, and there are a ton of other conservatives that feel the same way.
And if you don't want me to base my feelings for Donald off his speeches, debates, and actions, what do you want me to base them off of?
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:39 pm to Cobb Dawg
quote:Agred as I said I am not a Trump man I am anti Hillry. One of those never Hilary voters.
What most people don't realize is that Trump has switched parties several times. He changes when it's financially and/or politically expedient for him.
quote:and the democrats have done the same with telling poor and minorities that the republicans will take their benefits.[
The Republican Party has galvanized a lot of votes by scaring people with the 2nd amendment controversy. And it's worked beautifully.
quote:agreed they could never get the millions of them even if they wanted them.
A lot of yahoos actually believe the the government is coming after their gun
quote:see I have a hard time believing you are a republican and maybe I'm wrong. There is nothing you've said other than a dislike for Trump that leads me to believe you have republican values and in fact you sound like a democrat since we all seem to be able to determine what the other person is just based off of the message so we type.
I, as a Republican, am very thankful that he has absolutely zero chance of winning.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:42 pm to Cobb Dawg
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Cobb Dawg
you come across as someone who has no guns
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