re: OT - I hope y'all are ready for President Clinton *gag*

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View point like yours are the very reason why this race is even close.

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This race is not close at all. Hillary (who is the easiest democratic candidate to beat in a LONG time) is going to smoke Trump.

You are a member since 2014 with over twelve thousand posts so I assume you have lots of time on your hands. If you vote for Hillary you are a waste of space. Nothing she says she will do will get done. Just look at her record! You people believe anything you read or hear via the web. What the hell has she ever done? Let me guess your a party loyalists right?

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While Donald would not be my top choice he is a boat load better than that fricking shite bag he is running against and you ain't no republican if you vote for her. She is a walking disaster waiting to happen and guns and bullets are the last of our concerns if that walking shite for brains is elected. View point like yours are the very reason why this race is even close.

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Wow. This is pretty typical of what I see every day. Uneducated zealots flinging shite rhetoric that they heard at the barba shot. Hillary Clinton would have been easy to beat if members of the Republican Party had any brains at all. But they don't. That's why I'm starting to distance myself from the party. I've noticed others doing the same. I had no intentions of ever voting for a Democrat. I was going to vote Independent. But after seeing that clown Trump trying to debate, I've decided that I don't want him having anything near access to the nuclear trigger. He's a narcissistic egomaniacal train wreck. Thankfully he won't come anywhere close to being elected. And my vote, along with millions of other swing vote Republicans will insure it. He will lose in an embarrassing landslide to the first woman ever to be elected. I'm not excited at all about the results, but relieved that it ain't him. You middle class idol worshippers better wise up and start fronting candidates with brains and savvy. Otherwise it's going to be a long century for the Republican Party, if it continues to exist at all.

Spoken like a true democrat. What has she done in thirty years of service? Where was she when people were dying in Lybia when repeated requests for additional help went missing? Where was she when her husband was abusing women year after year? Where was she when for the last fourty plus years veterans have been dying while waiting for healthcare? Did you even notice that dumbass blabbed the nuclear response time on national TV last night? She never answered the question about enforcing a no fly zone as it applies to Russian fighter jets so it tells me those supporting her are in one of two categories...your either a party loyalist and would vote for any dumbass with a Democrat symbol in front of their name or you. Are dumb as frick and don't know any better. Don't worry she'll fly into Afghanistan under sniper fire rescue the day, save the economy, champion the fight for children (those lucky to be born) because we know she thinks killing them is just fine, she save jobs and feed America.....yada yada yada she ain't done it by now and she won't do it.

Again dumb nuts with typical Democratic bull shite. I'm college educated and I don't get my information from the news media or Facebook as so many do. Trump is not who I'd ideally like to win the job but know this Hillary has done nothing and she will do nothing other than look out for her interests and there is a track record of that. I'm a registered independent and have voted both parties over the years which is why I find it so hard to believe anybody with any common sense would vote for a liar like her. She as charchertised by the FBI acts extremely careless while handling national information and the only reason she is charged is due to who is. And you say you are worried about Trump? That dumb bitch will be the down fall of this country and guns and bullets will be the least of anyone worries. I do however agree with you that Republicans have gaffes this dammed election away.

Kasich isn't fricking idiot as well and a spoiled one!

Dude that comment wasn't to you sensitive nanny so frick off! Let me guess your in college now?

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Hillary is someone who has repeatedly been for the second amendment. She's not even close to the worst person on this subject. She just wants us to be smarter about who has guns. Don't worry, you'll still be allowed to hunt and protect yourself. That's not the people she's worried about.

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Nooooot really. People on both sides tend to take a politican at face value about what they say in debates, etc.

Clinton’s Support of a 25% Tax on Gun Sales–Wikileaks also released an email wherein PR firm Grunwald Communications asked for clarification on Clinton’s support of a 25% tax on gun sales. The email was dated October 4, 2015. In it, Mandy Grunwald wrote, “I also saw something about her supporting a 25% tax on gun sales back in 1993.” ABC News reports that Clinton was “unequivocal” in her support for such a tax during her husband’s presidency and, on June 5, 2016, she told George Stephanopoulos her support for the tax was part of the nationalized healthcare push. S

A 25% tax on gun sales would certainly have a painful effect on gun owners, and tend to curb gun ownership. Now, if by "She is pro stance on 2nd Amendment" you mean she won't try to toatally repeal it, then you might be right. But she certainly would like to take as many guns out of everybodys hands as she could. And make no mistake about it....a candidate does not have to want to ban guns to get rid of them. You put enough restrictions on buying them and over time gun ownership becomes something only the very rich can afford. The Dems have taught us that when it comes to their agenda, they can be very, very patient.

I don't even own a gun and I can see how they are continually trying to restrict access to them. Another method they are using? They want to hold gun manufacturers responsible for crimes committed with their guns. Seems odd, since they are not wanting to hold car manufacturers responsible for crimes committed with cars.

In the October 7 WikiLeaks’ release, Clinton press secretary Brian Fallon also said Clinton will “[impose] manufacturer liability” if elected. We got a clear picture of what this means on October 14, after the Sandy Hook lawsuit against Remington Arms was dismissed. Clinton took to Twitter to say it was “incomprehensible” that Remington was not held liable. Think about it: the AR-15 used in the Sandy Hook Elementary attack was legally made and legally sold–it was registered to Nancy Lanza, AdamLanza’s mother. But Adam stole the gun and thereafter carried out horrendous treachery. How can the gunmaker be liable in that situation?

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Hillary is someone who has repeatedly been for the second amendment. She's not even close to the worst person on this subject. She just wants us to be smarter about who has guns. Don't worry, you'll still be allowed to hunt and protect yourself. That's not the people she's worried about.

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Here's the problem that you're having....you're actually believing what she's saying.

I love these debates and speeches that everyone goes through with a fine toothed comb - because none of what they say in speeches on a large stage matters. All of these politicians lie and then go cut deals that are totally the opposite of what they say.

Does anyone here really think HRC gives a shite about the middle class??? Reducing the debt??? Improving the economy???



Look at what they say and do when they don't think anyone is looking....like that old saying your grandma told you. Of course with Hillary that's hard because she's been on every side of every issue depending on who she's talking to.

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If Everybody's Watching, You Know, All Of The Back Room Discussions And The Deals, You Know, Then People Get A Little Nervous, To Say The Least. So, You Need Both A Public And A Private Position.” You just have to sort of figure out how to -- getting back to that word, "balance" -- how to balance the public and the private efforts that are necessary to be successful, politically

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Well thank you very much for serving. And I get what you're saying. I think Hillary might be one of the worst presidents (if not the worst) we've had in the last 150+ years. That's what makes Trump's nomination so infuriating to so many Republicans. Trump is a petulant child, and as conservative as I am, and as much as I hate Hillary I don't trust that man at all to hold the nuclear codes, or deal with leaders of other countries. What's going to happen when he doesn't get his way with them?

It will be a far greater consequence than what happens when he doesn't get his way in the election cycle. I mean, the man doesn't even trust the democratic process. If Obama would have said that before the 08 election, people would have tried to force him out of the US.