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re: OT - DNC Imploding

Posted on 7/28/16 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6995 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 4:37 pm to
Hillary is a sophisticated scam artist. She is very dangerous and destructive. Trump is a crude and bumbling scam artist. He is much less dangerous. Either way, the future is bleak.

People who believe in either of these two candidates are damned fools.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 4:46 pm to
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People who believe in either of these two candidates are damned fools.

People who don't see the golden opportunity here are the fools. People who aren't paying attention to what is happening in the rest of the world and how Trump has thrown a wrench in the globalist plot are the fools. People who regurgitate bumper sticker slogans and prioritize legalizing weed when we are on the verge of a total irreversible take-over are the fricking fools. Eat shite. Thanks.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32757 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 4:49 pm to
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He has changed the entire platform for good


Pure delusion.
Posted by JakeScott
Lake Lanier
Member since Oct 2015
695 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 5:13 pm to
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Our economy is on the verge of collapse as a massive interest rate/currency/inflation bubble looms and could burst any day now.

Life is short. Take a step back.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6995 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 5:39 pm to
It looks like there is an unsustainable bubble in real estate and equity values. Take a look at This analisis.
Posted by JakeScott
Lake Lanier
Member since Oct 2015
695 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 7:31 pm to
Maybe we'll make it to February. I love college football
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59489 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 9:22 pm to
The DJIA might be hanging above 18k,but it's there artificially, thanks to QE2-3. Take out that stick propping it up, and we'd be back down 10-12k, easily.
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 9:24 pm
Posted by superdawg
Chattanooga
Member since Oct 2013
1355 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 9:53 pm to
bout to throw up - gotta change the channel fast
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 5:44 am to
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Again, those are Talking Points.


Those aren't talking points. Those are direct quotes or actions that trump has taken. What's the old saying? Actions speak louder than words.

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Our economy is on the verge of collapse as a massive interest rate/currency/inflation bubble looms and could burst any day now.


I honestly don't know what this mean. What is an interest rate bubble and what does this mean to me and you. (I am not being argumentative. I truly want to learn what you are talking about)

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Who gives one freaking turd if his stance on abortion has flip-flopped.



Conservatives might? His point is that if he has flip flopped on abortion, gun control and other issues, what makes you think he will stay the course now? These are legitimate questions. I would ask them of any other candidate.

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He's been a businessman working billion dollar deals. He's probably flip-flopped on a ton of things just to close deals. That's what salesman and savvy businessmen do.



His whole life has been about making money. Now all of a sudden this is being put on the back burner? NOW he is a concerned citizen that is going to put his own self interest on the back burner?

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If you can't see his genuine feelings


Genuine feelings? Donald Trump? This is the man that has divorced two wives because they became old so he could marry a younger woman.


As for his donating to Clinton? What do you say about that? Were his "genuine feelings to fix the economy then?
His genuine feelings were to protect himself and his business interests while the Clintons were in power.

Don't talk about any politicians "genuine" feelings. They don't exist.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 5:47 am to
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The DJIA might be hanging above 18k,but it's there artificially, thanks to QE2-3. Take out that stick propping it up, and we'd be back down 10-12k, easily.


No. I mean, it might be higher (It IS higher due to being propped up) but if the DJIA dopped 10-12,000 there would be total chaos. The economy would be totally wiped clean. It would probably drop more like 2,000-4,000.....but that would be VERY painful.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 5:51 am to
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It looks like there is an unsustainable bubble in real estate


This would surprise me greatly considering the drop we had in 2008-2010. Where are you seeing a real estate bubble? I am not arguing, just wondering where the information is coming from. I like to read up on economic trends and stock market fluctuations and what causes them.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59489 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 6:51 am to
Sorry, my post was meant to say that it might drop TO 10-12k. My uneducated guess would be that it would stabilize higher after the window jumpers' funerals, but the overarching point is that the Dems are claiming credit for the economy when it's actually smoke and mirrors.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:31 am to
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Sorry, my post was meant to say that it might drop TO 10-12k.


Thanks! i figured it was a mistake. And, yes, I DO agree with you on this.

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but the overarching point is that the Dems are claiming credit for the economy when it's actually smoke and mirrors.



Again, we agree. Honestly? I'm not entirely certain how much of an impact most policies make. I've always believed the economy is more cyclical than anything else, and what factors that DO influence the economy is beyond either partys control.

I realize that certain policies impact it, but typically not for the long haul. Speculators and world events seem to affect our economy more today than most political policies. (This last part is more my opinion, and not necessarily backed up by hard data)
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:33 am to
1. There's a huge difference between Talking Points and Ideology.

People consistently change their beliefs on talking points over time due to being educated on them and gaining wisdom and because their lifestyle changes or their environment they live in changes or they have an event occur that alters their belief. A close family member getting an abortion might change your belief about abortions. You being mugged and assaulted might change your belief about gun control. Etc etc.

Ideology is the fundamental tenants of your belief system. Like fiscal conservatism, limited government, states rights, pro-capitalism, anti-socialism, anti-establishment, etc etc.

Trump has been consistent as a conservative constitutional ideologue his entire life. Again, there is tons of video recording of him doing interviews going back nearly 30 years proving he has been consistent in his fundamental ideological beliefs. Go find his interview with Oprah, for instance. He was saying the same thing in the 80's that he's saying now about how corrupt our system is and what it'll take to fix it.

2. Quantitative Easing. From 2008-2012, Obama borrowed $6 Trillion from the Federal Reserve (figuratively just printed new dollars out of thin air), and doubled the M2 money supply. We had $6 Trillion in global circulation, and now we have $12 Trillion in global circulation. Do you understand that when you add dollars to the money supply the value of the dollar is supposed to decrease respectively? This is called Inflation. He Doubled the supply, so we should have had a huge change in inflation. What use to cost $1 dollar should cost almost $2 now because of how much money he printed, and we should have had a massive shift in our currency distribution. But we didn't. They artificially held inflation at rock bottom. It only went up about 9% total (1.8% per year) over the 5 years of QE. Inflation and interest rates are 100% correlated. They are practically the same thing.

Hence, we are in a huge inflation/interest rate/currency bubble. Our dollar is massively over-valued. Bonds and preferred stocks and yield-based derivatives are directly effected by interest rates. They can't hold interest rates and inflation down like this forever. We are going to get smacked with hyper-inflation at some point and people who own bonds, preferreds, and yield-based investments are going to lose astronomical amounts of money and the stock market will crash again. Well below 10k.

3. Who cares why he has two ex-wives or that he donated to some Democrats (he donated to Republican's plenty too) while working business deals, or that he was a money-grubbing businessman in the past. Right now, he's the only candidate who knows how to save our economy from collapse. Hillary is 4-8 more years of Obama. Deficit spending and driving up debt while creating more grossly under-funded liabilities. Gary Johnson hasn't got a clue how to fix our economy. He's a small fish in an ocean when it comes to economics and running a country like a business.

We need this country to be run like a business right now. We are bankrupt and on a path of unsustainability and certain collapse if we don't get some radical economic change. And Establishment politicians aren't going to do it. They are going to run us in the ground trying to line their pockets and their friend's pockets. This is overwhelmingly obvious.

We need a non-establishment outsider who doesn't give a shite about cronyism and doing favors to the donor class and has a self-interest in preventing the economy from collapse while also have the expertise to know how to fix it all.
Posted by samson'sseed
Augusta
Member since Aug 2013
2070 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:54 am to
Our economy is not on the verge of collapse.

Try reading financial news instead of listening to talk radio paranoia.

Trump never had a genuine feeling in his life, other than love of himself.
Posted by samson'sseed
Augusta
Member since Aug 2013
2070 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:57 am to
Figures you would be for a fascistic buffoon who deliberately appeals to bigots, racists, and cowards.

Trump has been endorsed by neo-Nazis in the U.S. and fascist dictators in the rest of the world.

A vote for Trump is like a vote for Adolf Hitler reincarnated.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86432 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:01 am to
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A vote for Trump is like a vote for Adolf Hitler reincarnated.


what is a vote for hilary?
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:30 am to
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A vote for Trump is like a vote for Adolf Hitler reincarnated.

Hail Trump! America uber alles!
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12413 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:40 am to
I'm not voting for Trump after I heard he referred to Mexicans as Taco bowls... What a racist!!!
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:47 am to
Yeah I only have a masters degree in finance, have been a stock broker for 15 years, and am a partner at a wealth management/investment planning firm that manages over $300 million in investment assets. WTF do I know? The local Progressive says all is well and I'm wrong.

GTFO.
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