re: OT - DNC Imploding

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need Assange to release some more emails this afternoon.

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Or better yet, Putin.

How the hell would I waste gasoline?

WOuld a gary johnson voter please explain to the board how supporting him changes anything.....other than make you feel like your projecting a cool guy worldview? Thanks.

And if you are actually interested in Libertarianism, I'd love to debate you on how Trump is actually your man here...

Jeffersons support of the establishments 2 party system is abhorable

He's right though. All these ads saying there's a third option, no there's not. Hillary supporters are blind and delusional and will not turn away. The liberals are going to push social issues like gay marriage and BLM and our idiotic nation is going to miss the major topics. Trump is pushing these topics, not the stupid social issues, but the economy, our safety as Americans, and the complete lack of law and order. The mainstream media will fire lie after lie to discredit him, but so far they are proving the mantra of any press is good press. Liberals will NOT turn away, so the conservatives can't either. If you actually look it up, Johnson isn't even a good libertarian. LINK

We need Trump, but more importantly, we absolutely cannot have Clinton.

Not really. If a red state is guaranteed for a trump, then a voter who is anti-establishment and voting for Clinton or trump is wasting their vote. If one is fed up with the 2 party establishment, and thus wants a legit third option in the near future, they need to use that vote yesterday to reach that goal.

Trump hasn't been "very liberal in the past".

Not sure where you're getting that notion.

There's video going back 20+ years and he was talking about free-market and supply-side economic concepts with low taxes, proper immigration, energy independence, and trade diplomacy condemning foreign countries who manipulate their currencies to screw our labor and manufacturing.

He's been very consistent with economic and fiscal conservatism and being anti-establishment.

Sure, he has a few beliefs in talking points that fall left of center, but those are just talking points. The economy is priority number one, and he is 1000% about small limited government and cutting out waste and corruption while maintaining fiscal conservatism.

You need to do some research. You sound like someone has fed you some haterade BS and you believed it.

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For Jefferson

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Crank it up!

So Trump has not leaned toward liberalism in his past?

Let me give you some history.... ie... facts...

..... Like I said.... I hope he is a REAL conservative now.... because if he leans the way he has in the past.... then the joke is on the GOP and America....

Abortion

Then: On "Meet The Press" in 1999, Trump said he was "very pro-choice." "I hate the concept of abortion," he said. "I hate it. I hate everything it stands for. ... but I just believe in choice."


Now: In an interview with Bloomberg Politics in January, Trump said, "I'm pro-life and I have been pro-life." He said he believed there should be exceptions in cases of rape, incest or the life of the mother.


Guns

Then: In Trump's 200 book "The America We Deserve," he wrote that he "generally" opposed gun control but supported an assault weapons ban and a longer waiting period to purchase a firearm.


Now: At the 2015 NRA-ILA Leadership Forum, Trump said if he became president, "the 2nd Amendment will be totally protected." He told the Web site Ammoland he does "not support expanding background checks" and said current background checks "don't work."


Healthcare

Then: In an interview with Larry King in 1999, Trump said he was "very liberal when it comes to health care" and that he believes in "universal healthcare."


Now: During his announcement, he called Obamacare "a disaster called the big lie" and said the deductibles were so high they were "virtually useless."


Hillary Clinton

Then: Either Trump or his son donated to Clinton in 2002, 2005, 2006 and 2007, he invited her to his 2005 wedding in Florida, where she sat front row, and he's donated at least $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation. He also said in an appearance on the Howard Stern show in the mid-2000s that she was a fantastic senator.


Now: On NBC on Wednesday, he called Clinton "the worst secretary of state in the history of our nation" and said she would be "a terrible president."


Party affiliation

Then: Trump changed his party from Republican to Independent Party in 1999, and switched again to Democrat in 2001.


Now: Has been a registered Republican since 2009.

Economy

Trump proposed in 1999 to raise taxes on the rich. ... Trump said the one-time tax of 14.25 percent would raise $5.7 trillion....


I JUST HOPE AND PRAY HE IS GOING TO DO WHAT HE SAYS.... BECAUSE HE HAS CHANGED A LOT OF HIS VIEWS.... I MEAN SOME 180 DEGREES...

Again, those are Talking Points.

Our economy is on the verge of collapse as a massive interest rate/currency/inflation bubble looms and could burst any day now.

Who gives one freaking turd if his stance on abortion has flip-flopped.

He's been a businessman working billion dollar deals. He's probably flip-flopped on a ton of things just to close deals. That's what salesman and savvy businessmen do.

If you can't see his genuine feelings coming out now when he speaks about fixing our economy, being fiscally conservative, and anti-establishment, then you're either biased or blind.