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Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by FinleyStreet
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:50 pm to
All I know is that we lost to Butch Jones and the only two coaches Richt has ever fired.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:50 pm to
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Just about every single team that richt regularly plays is better now than when donnan played them.


So why can they evolve but we can't seem to maintain our stature over them?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:50 pm to
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And I am sure Donnan could have done the same in 1997 if an elite team was pulled off the schedule like it was in 2012. Take ut off the 97 schedule, and what happens? A one loss season.


So, we have established that you think Donnan is as good a coach as Richt. Where do we go from here?
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:50 pm to
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Compare rankings and won/loss %'s before you call the comparison laughable and insulting


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Winning % as compared to our peers and rankings over 4 year periods


dafuq are you talking about? Obviously each coach's winning percentage is oging to be "aginast their peers", richt isn't coaching against donnan's opponents.

Donnan went 40-19 or 68% in his 5 years. Richt is 140-50 or 74%. Donnan went 25-15 in the SEC for 63%, Richt is 80-36 for 69%, in a much tougher SEC. Richt has more division titles, more conference titles, more BCS appearances, BCS wins, more basically everything you can think of than donnan.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:53 pm to
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You're comparing coaches, in which case obviously Richt overall is heads and shoulders etter than Donnan.

What I was asking is how the 2013-2015 stretch has been anything other than Donnan-esque


Alright well at first glance it looked like you were comparing coaches which is absurd.

And yes these last few years have obviously been bad but I wouldn't call them donnan-esque since teh donnan years were miserable. In teh first month alone of '13 we beat 2 top 10 teams...how many top 10 teams did we beat in donnan's 5 years?

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why do we still feel like we're stagnating?




we are.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:54 pm to
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the only two coaches Richt has ever fired.


false
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:54 pm to
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So why can they evolve but we can't seem to maintain our stature over them?




idk
Posted by Charlottedawg
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:54 pm to
So let me get his straight, you're using preseason prognostications to find comfort in the fact that we blew a 21 point lead to a Tennessee team that has lost to everyone else with a pulse? You think like a Greyson Lambert and reading this all wrong dude.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:55 pm to
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Take ut off the 97 schedule, and what happens? A one loss season.




You're an idiot.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:55 pm to
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idk


Seems like a certain head coach is a little lost in the woods, too...
Posted by Charlottedawg
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:59 pm to
An SEC title 10 years ago, two SEC east titles in in 2011 & 12, & PTSD from SOS & CNS. We have major self esteem issues and don't think we'll ever do any better. Disneys are the ultimate Dooms Dayers because in their hearts they don't believe we can ever be better than what we are.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 3:07 pm to
Love your cherries to apples comparisons.

Ut, uf, and Gtu 97-00 were better than you remember. Certainly much better than they have been during any recent 4 year stretch.

I will move on to other opponents after these 3 get sorted out.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 3:08 pm to
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So let me get his straight, you're using preseason prognostications to find comfort in the fact that we blew a 21 point lead to a Tennessee team that has lost to everyone else with a pulse? You think like a Greyson Lambert and reading this all wrong dude.


Well...we COULD wait until the season is over. No. Wait. You are all calling for his firing now. I'll predict this. Tennessee will look MUCH better at the end of the season than they do right now. Obviously I could be wrong, but I think they will be a top 25 team at the end of the year.
Posted by Bulldawg2010
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 3:13 pm to
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OK. Reggie Davis dropped a TD going into the endzone. Michel fumbled a kickoff deep in Tennessee territory. How is that Richt's fault again? I mean, you want to fire the man based on two 20 year old kids mistakes that Richt could not have prevented in any way?


I do not want him fired for yesterday. I want him fired for his pathetic 9-22 record against ranked teams.

I want him fired bc of all the embrassing blow out losses.

I want him fired bc of all the teams he loses too, when we have no business losing.

Yesterday is a perfect example. We got punched in the mouth in 35 seconds, we couldn't put Tennessee away. You can be a moron and blame the players, just like every other pro Richt guy.


I swear, having conversations with people that have no idea what they are talking about is like talking to a wall.


How about this. You give me reasons for why we should keep Saint Richt.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 3:13 pm to
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Take ut off the 97 schedule, and what happens? A one loss season.


You're an idiot.


The funny thing is that you are implying that replacing an elite team with a weak opponent wouldn't make a difference in how a season Turns out. Point is, You have no room to call anyone an idiot.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32777 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 3:20 pm to
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Donnan went 40-19 or 68% in his 5 years. Richt is 140-50 or 74%. Donnan went 25-15 in the SEC for 63%, Richt is 80-36 for 69%, in a much tougher SEC. Richt has more division titles, more conference titles, more BCS appearances, BCS wins, more basically everything you can think of than donn


2010-14: 68%, 23rd best in nation.
1996-00: 68%, 18th best in nation.

I will let you compare final rankings during these 2 periods.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 3:22 pm to
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quote:
And I am sure Donnan could have done the same in 1997 if an elite team was pulled off the schedule like it was in 2012. Take ut off the 97 schedule, and what happens? A one loss season.


So, we have established that you think Donnan is as good a coach as Richt. Where do we go from here?


No "think" about it. The numbers support the claim when going apples to apples.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 3:25 pm to
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Ut, uf, and Gtu 97-00 were better than you remember. Certainly much better than they have been during any recent 4 year stretch.



ORLY?

UF went 39-11 (78%) 97-00 [donnan]
UF went 48-7 (87%) 06-09 [richt]

1 donnan win, 1 richt win


UT went 41-9 (82%) 97-00 [donnan]
UT went 39-13 (75%) 01-04 [richt]

1 Donnan win, 3 Richt wins

GT went 37-14 (73%) 97-00 [donnan]
GT went 35-18 (66%) 06-09 [richt]

1 donnan win, 3 richt wins

GT and UT were SLIGHTLY better during the small timeframe donnan was coach compared to the higher levels when richt has been coach, but realize that over 14 years there's going to be other times when there are good of those teams that donnan didn't have to contend with. UF from 01-14 has certainly been better than the 4 year stretch donnan saw.


BBUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT



The big point that you have completely ignored, and I'm quite sure why, is the rest of my earlier point. In that EVERY OTHER TEAM that richt is playing is tougher now than then. It's not about 2 or 3 games per year, it's about every single game top to bottom om the schedule.

Richt era SC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donnan era SC

Richt era VU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donnan era VU

Richt era UK >>>>> donnan era UK

Richt era OM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donnan era OM

Richt era MSU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donnan MSU

Richt Arkansas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. donnan Arkansas

Richt bama is irrelevant since donnan never played bama but the gap is extreme

Richt LSU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donnan lsu

Plus we have another division team to play against that donnan didn't.


It is not even remotely, somehwat, slightly, kinda, sorta, anywhere close in comparing the toughness of richt's schedules to donnan's.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86434 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 3:25 pm to
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The funny thing is that you are implying that replacing an elite team with a weak opponent wouldn't make a difference in how a season Turns out. Point is, You have no room to call anyone an idiot.




Anyone who says "well if you took off the best team we played and replaced them with a crappy team so we'd be better" doesn't deserve to be listened to anymore.

Not that you ever did anyway to begin with.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86434 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 3:30 pm to
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2010-14: 68%, 23rd best in nation.
1996-00: 68%, 18th best in nation.


10-14: 2 east titles, 3 top 10 finishes, multiple victories over top 10 teams.

5-0 against UT, 4-1 against GT, 3-2 against UF, 3-2 against AU


96-00: 0 division titles, 1 top 10 finish, not as many top 10 victories.

1-4 agianst UT, 2-3 agaisnt GT, 1-4 against UF, 2-3 against AU


your move retard
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