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Posted on 10/11/15 at 1:56 pm to djsdawg
Posted on 10/11/15 at 1:56 pm to djsdawg
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You are essentially arguing a coach should never be fired for their players screwing up.
Depends on how the players screw up. Which fumble or dropped pass would you say was preventable from a coaching standpoint? Should Richt have told them don't drop a pass....or don't fumble? If at this level they have to be told that, then they have no business being on the field.
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 1:59 pm to DawgsLife
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Only in Georgia do we... by DawgsLife
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You are essentially arguing a coach should never be fired for their players screwing up.
Depends on how the players screw up. Which fumble or dropped pass would you say was preventable from a coaching standpoint? Should Richt have told them don't drop a pass....or don't fumble? If at this level they have to be told that, then they have no business being on the field.
Poor ball security and poor catching can both be attributable to coaching.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:00 pm to Chef Leppard
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Only in Georgia do we... by Chef Leppard
Good is the enemy of great
And good didn't stop us from firing Donnan.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:01 pm to djsdawg
I've been wondering this all morning:
What's the difference between the last 3 years and the Donnan years?
What's the difference between the last 3 years and the Donnan years?
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:02 pm to tylerdurden24
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I've been wondering this all morning:
What's the difference between the last 3 years and the Donnan years?
Not a damn thing, people are delusional.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:02 pm to djsdawg
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haven't screamed for a firing and If we go 10-2, no one will think it either.
Where did I say that you have?
You don't see people in this thread calling for Richt to be fired? Should I point it out for you? More often than not Richt wins 10 games. Yet every time UGA loses a game the fire Richt threads start. have you missed them?
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Also, no one thinks we shouldn't beat the Vols, especially when up by 21.
I agree. With a 21 point lead we should have won. But, did not see where there was play calling snafus or clock management issues. We lost because indvidual players screwed up badly. Therefore, the rationale on the board is fire Richt. Ok.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:02 pm to tylerdurden24
97-00 compares well to most if not all recent 4 year periods.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:07 pm to djsdawg
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Poor ball security and poor catching can both be attributable to coaching.
Yep. Should have told them, "Don't fumble!" or "Don't drop the ball!" It's not like their mechanics were off. I played WR. On the dropped pass the WR let the ball get in too far to his body and it glanced off his shoulder pad. He did not really try to catch with his hands, but wanted to let it settle in to his arms. A mistake. Should not have happened. He simply thought the ball was not going to come in so tight to his body. Coaching was not going to help him.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:10 pm to JCdawg
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I've been wondering this all morning:
What's the difference between the last 3 years and the Donnan years?
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Not a damn thing, people are delusional.
Which of those years did Donnan play for a SEC Championship and come within an eyelash of winning the National Championship? Talk about delusional. You don't remember the Donnan years clearly, do you?
You guys sound a LOT like the same guys that wanted to run Murray out of town for not winning the big game. But what the heck....you were just being good fans who only wanted the best for the University and good was not good enough.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:12 pm to DawgsLife
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within an eyelash of winning the National Championship
You either win it or you don't.....
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:13 pm to tylerdurden24
Donnan lost to Tech in 1998, 1999 and 2000. 3 straight losses to Tech gets you fired
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:20 pm to VADawg
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Only in Georgia do we... by VADawg
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within an eyelash of winning the National Championship
You either win it or you don't.....
And I am sure Donnan could have done the same in 1997 if an elite team was pulled off the schedule like it was in 2012. Take ut off the 97 schedule, and what happens? A one loss season.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:22 pm to Dawgman77
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Donnan lost to Tech in 1998, 1999 and 2000. 3 straight losses to Tech gets you fired
If we are 6-5 going into tech, and we lose 2 in a row, richt might get tossed.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:26 pm to tylerdurden24
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What's the difference between the last 3 years and the Donnan years?
The donnan years were 5 years, why not compare apples to apples?
We aren't that good right now. I know that. But to compare us to the donnan years is LAUGHABLE. During the donnan years we'd hope and pray we might win a big game. In the last several years we've beaten multiple top 10 teams. We've done a handful of things in the last 3 years that donnan couldn't do in 5. Donnan has 4 DCs in 5 years. And Donnan was playing in an SEC with 2 elite teams and a bunch of average teams.
Donnan was as average as grits...to compare us now to donnan is an insult.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:35 pm to WG_Dawg
Year 1's under new head coaches are typically transition years and deserve mulligans. Since richts came way back in 2001, it wouldn't be apples to apples.
Compare rankings and won/loss %'s before you call the comparison laughable and insulting. Once you do that, recognize that Donnan coached vs much better vol, gator, and tech programs.
Compare rankings and won/loss %'s before you call the comparison laughable and insulting. Once you do that, recognize that Donnan coached vs much better vol, gator, and tech programs.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:42 pm to djsdawg
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Compare rankings and won/loss %'s before you call the comparison laughable and insulting
Ok.
Richt has averaged 10 wins over 14 years. Donnan averaged 8. Donnan won 10 games once, Richt has 9 times. Richt has many top 10 finishes and several top 5s, Donnan doesn't. Richt is 12-2 against our biggest rival, donnan was 2-3. Richt has beaten UF 5 times, donnan did once. Richt has beaten UT 10 times, donnan did once. Richt as beaten AU 9 times, donnan did twice.
That enough?
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:45 pm to WG_Dawg
Winning % as compared to our peers and rankings over 4 year periods. You forgot both of them. Wonder why? Heck, you totally went away from your "apples to apples" point.
This post was edited on 10/11/15 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:47 pm to djsdawg
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recognize that Donnan coached vs much better vol, gator, and tech programs.
Donnan coached against 1 elite UF team and a handful of pretty good ones. He coached against extremely good UT teams. The tech teams were on par with richt's tech teams overall.
Why don't you also realize that the 01-12 ole miss teams are far better than the 90s ole miss, the meyer era florida teams were far better than the 97-00 uf teams, spurrier era SC was light years better than 90s SC, the 2000s UK is far better than 90s UK, 2001-2014 AU is far better than 96-00 AU, franklin era VU is miles better than 90s vandy, saban/miles LSu is worlds better than LSU, oh, we also have another team in missouri to compete with that donnan didn't.
Ya know what? Just about every single team that richt regularly plays is better now than when donnan played them. So wise up before trying to sound like you know what you're talking about.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:49 pm to VADawg
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You either win it or you don't.....
Your point? I thought we were comparing Donnan and Richt. You REALLY think they are the same?
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:49 pm to WG_Dawg
You're comparing coaches, in which case obviously Richt overall is heads and shoulders etter than Donnan.
What I was asking is how the 2013-2015 stretch has been anything other than Donnan-esque. Some solid wins mixed with mind numbing losses using NFL-caliber talent to outclass most of our competition. Sure, the stats may read slightly different (keep in mind we're also playing more games in a season now as compared to when Donnan was our coach) but the feeling is largely the same.
We're stalling out again as a program and we've already brought in the big name DC and OC from the NFL. We've already been promised the IPF and seen the renderings. We've already had a couple of solid recruiting classes come in. So why do we still feel like we're stagnating?
What I was asking is how the 2013-2015 stretch has been anything other than Donnan-esque. Some solid wins mixed with mind numbing losses using NFL-caliber talent to outclass most of our competition. Sure, the stats may read slightly different (keep in mind we're also playing more games in a season now as compared to when Donnan was our coach) but the feeling is largely the same.
We're stalling out again as a program and we've already brought in the big name DC and OC from the NFL. We've already been promised the IPF and seen the renderings. We've already had a couple of solid recruiting classes come in. So why do we still feel like we're stagnating?
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