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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:34 am to Peter Buck
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:34 am to Peter Buck
Pyke was based on 2014, but IMO Kublanow was more of an assumption based on # of starts.
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:52 am to Crowknowsbest
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They were on the preseason lists mostly because they are veteran offensive linemen at Georgia, imo. Most people don't put a ton of thought into these lists, especially preseason. Pyke may be a mid-late draft pick at guard, Kublanow won't be drafted. Neither will Catalina.
Yep, ironically it's an apples to oranges comparison of preseason potential vs actual performance voted on by SEC coaches at the end of the season. I'm not in the cupboard was bare camp; after all a bare cupboard suggests that you don't have any players. hahaa But any objective observer can see that Georgia is lacking talent at some key positions not the least of which is the OL. Objective is a key word here because I suppose it is human nature to defend your position/perspective even when most information suggests otherwise.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 10:49 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:58 am to GurleyGirl
I agree, you and others are going to ride that "no talent" horse to the bitter end regardless of proof otherwise.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:59 am to Peter Buck
...and yes, this clearly shows that their potential was greater than their performance this year...
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:08 am to Peter Buck
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...and yes, this clearly shows that their potential was greater than their performance this year...
This team could have done better, clearly. It is still not a talented team relative to where UGA was from 2000 through 2014.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:11 am to GurleyGirl
I hope this shows people we have a bit of a talent deficit compared to the rest of the SEC. People are asking why our best players like Dom Sanders, Trent Thompson and Roquan Smith didn't make it, well most of the guys who made it above them are about to be 1st and 2nd round picks. We will have a lot of people on the All-SEC Freshman team though.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:33 am to Peter Buck
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I agree, you and others are going to ride that "no talent" horse to the bitter end regardless of proof otherwise.
I bet the next 2 drafts are gonna prove a point you may not be willing to accept.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:42 am to SumterCoDawg
Trent Thompson will be a 1st round draft pick... sliding to the early 2nd, worst case. Roquan is probably a day 2 guy, but he could play his way up. Sanders has good instincts but doesn't have the athleticism to be a top pick.
Still stand by my assertion that Thompson was deserving of the 2nd team, but I realize that there are a ton of elite DL in the SEC.
Still stand by my assertion that Thompson was deserving of the 2nd team, but I realize that there are a ton of elite DL in the SEC.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:04 am to crispyUGA
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Trent Thompson will be a 1st round draft pick... sliding to the early 2nd, worst case. Roquan is probably a day 2 guy, but he could play his way up. Sanders has good instincts but doesn't have the athleticism to be a top pick. Still stand by my assertion that Thompson was deserving of the 2nd team, but I realize that there are a ton of elite DL in the SEC.
Yep, Trent was a 5 star recruit and it shows in his performance. But obviously there are only 2 slots for each position in the All SEC 1st and 2nd teams and yes, there are some excellent DL in the SEC. Would not be surprised to see Thompson make the team next season.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:06 am to GurleyGirl
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Would not be surprised to see Thompson make the team next season.
I would actually be surprised if he doesn't, barring injury
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:08 am to crispyUGA
Sanders was All-SEC last year. His athleticism is off the charts, one of the best on the team. His physicality leaves a lot to be desired.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:12 am to Peter Buck
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I agree, you and others are going to ride that "no talent" horse to the bitter end regardless of proof otherwise.
You continuing to say that doesn't make it true. No one on this board has said we have "no talent" but yea, plenty including yours truly acknowledge that we are lacking talent at some key positions needed to take our team to the next level. This was a key reason Kirby was hired; to improve our recruiting at those key positions not the least of which is the OL.
And certainly performance is a function of both coaching and talent but you can't coach up size, natural strength (bone structure/density, etc. and athletic ability. This is why Alabama has won 4 out of the last 7 national championships with the highest average recruiting ranking over those years.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 10:18 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:15 am to Peter Buck
so because someone this off season said these guys were great, but they didn't play great, still means they are great? talk about denial
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:37 am to crispyUGA
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Trent didn't have the stats, but he was deserving of a 2nd team spot. He was a major disruptive force on the interior.
Was about to post this. He does what he did this year, next year - and he'll be a high draft pick.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:47 pm to gatorhata9
If UGA performed better on the field, I'd be willing to bet that Trent would have been on there. He played really well this year.
Still, UGA had 5 players in 6 spots in the first 2 teams pre season and ended with none. Clear indication of lack of talent.
Still, UGA had 5 players in 6 spots in the first 2 teams pre season and ended with none. Clear indication of lack of talent.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:20 pm to Peter Buck
Outside of the rbs, which of the preseason picks are highly talented Peter? The NFL will tell us. Talent isnt always what gets you on a preseason list. Sometimes all it takes is experience.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:22 pm to Peter Buck
Yes, we have a lack of talented players and coaches. Better players are on the horizon. Whether they will be developed remains to be seen. I'm not worried about the defense but Chaney doesn't inspire any confidence.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:35 pm to Whiznot
Based on this season, we will need about 16 pre season All SEC players to get over the hump...
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:58 pm to Peter Buck
Nothing more worthless than preseason accolades, but keep on being you Peter.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:08 pm to GurleyGirl
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No one on this board has said we have "no talent"
Nobody said no talent but there were the "worst roster since mid 90's" and the "worst roster of the 2000's" after our shite showing against a very bad Ole Miss team.
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