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Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:43 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:43 pm to Damn Good Dawg
The 2016 coach search competition seems like a giant game of musical chairs. The administrations that are sharp and early have a good chance to benefit. Slow and stupid administrations will like kill their programs for many years.
Can our administration win against the others or will we end up with the dregs? Based on McGarity's past performance I am concerned.
Can our administration win against the others or will we end up with the dregs? Based on McGarity's past performance I am concerned.
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:44 pm to VADawg
Exactly what I was saying. There is no guarantee it is better next year. Could be worse citing the examples you noted because the field of eligible hires would be even less.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:13 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Urban's myth is coming unraveled
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:47 am to Peter Buck
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Urban's myth is coming unraveled
Maybe so, but that's one helluva myth. 3 NC's with two different teams.
But he is due for some chest pains.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 7:25 am to WG_Dawg
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old farts like mcgarity
Didn't he come from one of the most corrupt, highest spending athletic departments in the SEC?
Posted on 11/25/15 at 7:39 am to Whiznot
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The administrations that are sharp and early have a good chance to benefit. Slow and stupid administrations will like kill their programs for many years
Oh well, we are fricked then. "Sharp" and "early" have never been hallmarks of our AD.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:27 am to Damn Good Dawg
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Exactly what I was saying. There is no guarantee it is better next year. Could be worse citing the examples you noted because the field of eligible hires would be even less.
This is said every year. Herman wasn't even a blip on the radar for a P5 HC job and now he seems to be candidate 1b (Kelly being 1a and most likely USC bound).
There are plenty of guys that will be available. I think the question is...how talented of a coach and how proven are those guys? Are they better than what we currently have? Honestly, in my opinion I don't think there is anybody available this year that would come here and change the program.
Kirby Smart isn't exciting, we aren't getting a Saban/Dabo and Gruden and Cowher aren't coming out of coaching retirement. I honestly think the best guy out there is our DC...and McGarrity might want Richt gone but he doesn't have the balls to make that swap.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 3:47 pm to BMC398
If Richt is let go, so be it, but if UGA fires Richt just to hire Kirby Smart, I am going to be thoroughly pissed off. I DETEST that choice.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 6:03 pm to SoGaFan
Kirby Smart was a Dawg but I that is the only known positive. I would not be happy with losing Richt and Pruitt to get KS.
If Richt can be swapped for a proven head coach with a great offensive mind it might work.
If Richt can be swapped for a proven head coach with a great offensive mind it might work.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:32 pm to BMC398
I can't believe so many people aren't Kirby Smart fans. The guy watched tape of like every Brian Schottenheimer offense for the past 5 years before the Georgia game. He has plenty of energy and dedication to winning. Granted, our offense will make any defense look spectacular this year.
I can say with utmost certainty that Kirby Smart would have never hired Brian Schottenheimer.
I can say with utmost certainty that Kirby Smart would have never hired Brian Schottenheimer.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 11:16 pm to JCdawg
Being a head coach at a place like UGA is about so much more than just on field coaching. You've got to be a great politician, take a bunch of inane criticism from fans, boosters, and administrators, be able to negotiate personal tiffs among your coaches and players, and so much more. I would guess that most head coaches screw up their first job through off field blunders than on field ones. Having a publicly even keel personality like Richt does helps immensely in those areas. Smart has a short fuse. That works great when you are being shielded by Saban and the Bama media machine. Don't think it will work so well at UGA.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 6:34 am to SoGaFan
You don't fire an 8-10 win coach to hire Kirby Smart. It's that simple.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 8:04 am to BMC398
Kirby Smart might be a good HC for a program like UGA one day, but he'll need to prove himself first. If he's been waiting around Bama for nine years for Georgia to call, he's deluded. If that's his plan, he should have taken the DC job when it was offered.
Let USCe have him for a few years. He's probably an upgrade from Shawn Elliot.
Let USCe have him for a few years. He's probably an upgrade from Shawn Elliot.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 12:37 pm to DragginFly
I don't understand the Kirby Smart hate here. He doesn't have head coaching experience, but neither did Mark Richt when he first got to GA...or Dabo when he took over at Clemson, or Jimbo Fisher at Florida State. There are probably more instances of a guy coming in who was previously a head coach than a coordinator getting the promotion, but there are plenty of examples of where it has worked. In Kirby's case, he has quite a few things going for him that could make the transition a little less risky than others.
He's one of the top recruiters in the SEC already, he has spent the majority of his career working under one of the top coaches in the game, and he has a proven football mind.
Now, none of this means that he is guaranteed to succeed at UGA or even that he should necessarily be the top pick should they look for a new HC. However, if it were to happen I would not be upset about it at all.
He's one of the top recruiters in the SEC already, he has spent the majority of his career working under one of the top coaches in the game, and he has a proven football mind.
Now, none of this means that he is guaranteed to succeed at UGA or even that he should necessarily be the top pick should they look for a new HC. However, if it were to happen I would not be upset about it at all.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 12:46 pm to Dawgs28
Georgia is on a different level now than when Donnan was fired.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 1:36 pm to Dawgs28
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But there are plenty of example of where it's worked
Not so much in the SEC and I don't think schools are willing to risk millions on a OC or DC no matter how proven they are.Dan Mullen is the only recent hire that fits that category.Arky,Ole Miss,UT,AU,UF all went with guys that had previous HC experience. The Muschamp experiment at UF pretty much ruined any type of future
HC jobs in the SEC for coordinators.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 2:52 pm to Dawgs28
Eventually Dabovand Jimbo made it work, but if I recall both coaches were not thought of entirely fondly by their fans in the first years of their tenures. Hell, it took the entire FSU administration turning a completely blind eye to the shenanigans of several football players to even give them the chance at the national title. Do you think that would happen at UGA?
Posted on 11/27/15 at 3:06 pm to RD Dawg
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Not so much in the SEC and I don't think schools are willing to risk millions on a OC or DC no matter how proven they are.Dan Mullen is the only recent hire that fits that category.Arky,Ole Miss,UT,AU,UF all went with guys that had previous HC experience. The Muschamp experiment at UF pretty much ruined any type of future
HC jobs in the SEC for coordinators.
Fair enough, and if Georgia makes a change maybe that is the route that they should go. As far as I can think though, among the top schools in the SEC in recent history it's a 50/50 record with Dan Mullen and Muschamp. Then there is the Ole Miss coach who barely qualifies as having previous HC experience when he jumped from Arkansas State after 1 year, and Mcelwain at Florida who only had 3 years of HC experience (for the sake of argument lets assume that Florida got that hire right). How much experience does a person need before they can come in?
I just don't think that we have to limit ourselves to following the mold of the rest of the conference. Someone has to break it eventually, and that is not necessarily a bad thing.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 9:05 pm to gatorhata9
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Georgia is on a different level now than when Donnan was fired.
We are
And it is because of the job Mark Richt has done...
Just something to think about...
And I am ready for a change
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