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re: Mark Schlabach Recap
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:40 pm to tylerdurden24
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:40 pm to tylerdurden24
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I think the best move at this point is to give Richt one more year.
I can see both sides, but like I said I would imagine he's 100% back anyway so no use going back and forth. However, if we don't have a BIG year in 16 I'll be done. I don't care who is hurt or who is supsended or what happens...if we have another mediocre year in 16 I'm done for good with it.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:44 pm to WG_Dawg
Oh, I'm already done. And I stand pat saying he shouldn't be here in 2017. But at this point it's about timing and, quite frankly, I think we have more to gain keeping him for 2016 than we do bringing a new guy in that we may not even be happy with.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:46 pm to tylerdurden24
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I think we have more to gain keeping him for 2016 than we do bringing a new guy in that we may not even be happy with.
While I don't share the sentiment, I do think that if Richt stays, Schotty remains, if only because of the contract $.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:01 pm to HellRaisingDawg
That's the double-edged sword to what I think needs to happen. Keeping Richt for one year and only one year means stomaching Schotty for that span as well. Could be a gamble, too, as he would be responsible for teaching Eason. I think the jury is still out on whether he is an ineffective teacher of the position or if our position group is just wholly piss poor
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:05 pm to tylerdurden24
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I think the jury is still out on whether he is an ineffective teacher of the position or if our position group is just wholly piss poor
agree. All season I've acknowledged that ok, our QB sucks, but AT LEAST put us in teh best position to win. Utilize the TEs more (why we haven't gone to them is beyond me), throw in some wrinkles (not necessarily putting godwin at QB 3/4 of the way through the year), some trick plays, SOMETHING to move the ball.
But at the same time....yeesh this is as bad as we've been at QB since like 1996.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:12 pm to tylerdurden24
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I think the jury is still out on whether he is an ineffective teacher of the position or if our position group is just wholly piss poor
I think at this point, all I know is that I don't know.
I never would have thought we'd look this bad offensively (specifically at QB) with St. Mark at the helm. If he stays, you have to keep Schotty, though. Number one, you aren't getting a name into that slot with Richt's seat as hot as it is. Number two, you aren't going to pay that name anyway, owing Schotty that kind of money.
Richt stays, Schotty stays. You may see a move made on the line.
Or...Schotty goes, and Lilly gets a shot?
Who knows. I can see nothing good coming from Richt staying, aside from Eason coming and being the truth.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:15 pm to HellRaisingDawg
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I think at this point, all I know is that I don't know.
I've been incredibly down on schott since the tn game and have seen nothing out of him to change that. But again, holy hell he is hamstrung to the nth degree. It must suck having a bum at QB and your All American RB go down halfway.
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Or...Schotty goes, and Lilly gets a shot?
shite, I'd take that without thinking twice. Sure, we've only seen 1 game out of Lily in the belk bowl, but at least it'd be something different than schott. Plus he's coached with Richt forever so our offensive plans might revert back to the good years when we had some offensive success.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:18 pm to HellRaisingDawg
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I can see nothing good coming from Richt staying, aside from Eason coming and being the truth.
That is about it.
It would be very out of character for Richt to fire a coach much less a coordinator after 1 year. That happens I would read it as not his decision, but then again I don't think the AD has the balls for that move either.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:19 pm to WG_Dawg
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Or...Schotty goes, and Lilly gets a shot?
shite, I'd take that without thinking twice. Sure, we've only seen 1 game out of Lily in the belk bowl, but at least it'd be something different than schott. Plus he's coached with Richt forever so our offensive plans might revert back to the good years when we had some offensive success.
Yeah, If Richt stays, knowing that they won't go out and get "the guy" (for whatever reason), I'd rather see Lily get the shot...not because I have some insight on whether or not he knows his a-hole from his elbow, but because it's not Schotty.
I just haven't seen Schotty call a complete game playing to our strengths. I have no faith. If he does stay, I hope he reads that and spites the shite out of me next season.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:22 pm to WhopperDawg
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It would be very out of character for Richt to fire a coach much less a coordinator after 1 year. That happens I would read it as not his decision, but then again I don't think the AD has the balls for that move either.
I think it comes down to $ and who you can bring in on the cheap. That is pretty much nobody that would be an obvious upgrade.
For the first time in a many a year, I won't go into next season with my Disney glasses on.
I have been humbled.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:22 pm to HellRaisingDawg
Hell, fire schott, promote Lily, hire/promote a GA to full time ST coach. Win 10 games, fire richt, get some badass, keep pruitt, lure back bobo, sit back and collect titles.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:25 pm to WG_Dawg
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lure back bobo
You had me...then you lost me.
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You meant at OC? Ah...I read that as at head coach. WHEW!
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:28 pm to HellRaisingDawg
yeah OC
although FTR, if in the next few years for whatever reason we whiffed on our first couple options and Bobo was our HC, I wouldn't complain a bit.
although FTR, if in the next few years for whatever reason we whiffed on our first couple options and Bobo was our HC, I wouldn't complain a bit.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:30 pm to WG_Dawg
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although FTR, if in the next few years for whatever reason we whiffed on our first couple options and Bobo was our HC, I wouldn't complain a bit.
I'm still watching him out west. Jury is out. I'm rooting for him, though.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:42 pm to HellRaisingDawg
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I'm still watching him out west. Jury is out.
me too, and I don't think he's doing nearly as bad as people want to say he is. For starters, it's his first frickin year ever as a head coach. And for all the tards who only want to say "durr mcelwain won 10 games! Bobo sucks!" they fail to realize that CSU had a 1,300 yard rusher last year (bama transfer) a FOUR THOUSAND yard passer, and their 3rd leading receiver all leave after last year.
Despite that, he still has them with overall and conference winning records, and that includes OT losses in both his 2nd and 3rd games. If those 2 OT losses were wins (yeah yeah I know, it doesn't work like that) CSU would be tied for the best record in their conference.
I dont' think "the jury" will know about a 1st time head coach until at LEAST three years into the job.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:49 pm to WG_Dawg
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I dont' think "the jury" will know about a 1st time head coach until at LEAST three years into the job.
Absolutely, if not four.
You can start to formulate opinions, but until you've had a full three or four years of recruits and system, it's unfair to reach a verdict.
ESPECIALLY when implementing a completely new system.
I'm glad Bobo is getting his chance to prove himself somewhere, rather than be the "anointed one" that so many fans of UGA seemed to want. That's why I wouldn't be a fan of promoting Pruitt if Richt left.
It's also why you won't hear me advocate for smart.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:06 pm to WG_Dawg
So we hire booboo back and what. Games where we do not show up on offense, stupid decisions, the lousy quarterback situation would be the same,etc. What was our record last year? A lot like last year? It is the belk bowl again. Oh things would be so much better.
So Ramsey would have been our quarterback this year and he would have set the Ga record for interceptions. With no real running back, our offense would be just as bad as it is now even with booboo. At least he woudl be here to get credit for the sorry mess he left us in. At this point, for all the booboo supporters, I hope GA fires richt and replaces him with booboo. After a few goff like years, GA would finally get it that you do not hire coaches because they are ex Georgia players.
So Ramsey would have been our quarterback this year and he would have set the Ga record for interceptions. With no real running back, our offense would be just as bad as it is now even with booboo. At least he woudl be here to get credit for the sorry mess he left us in. At this point, for all the booboo supporters, I hope GA fires richt and replaces him with booboo. After a few goff like years, GA would finally get it that you do not hire coaches because they are ex Georgia players.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:33 pm to ATLdawg25
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We need to find our Billy Beane.
A guy who couldn't win a championship and rapidly got passed by everyone else? We've already got him. Though to be fair to Richt, he had, to some extent, the same handicap Beane did - a boss who wouldn't invest enough.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:56 pm to WG_Dawg
I agree with what you, Durden, and Lucius are saying in that it looks like it will be 2016 as do or die. But with high expectations it just seems like we will be delaying the inevitable. I get the challenge of competing with LSU, USC, etc but the thing is, just because we wait till next year, because this year has an abnormal amount of candidates, doesn't necessarily mean that the cupboard will be restocked. It will still likely be a depleted market and there will probably be other players.
That's the narrative that kills me. We can make excuses (not yall, just saying we) about waiting for this next class, waiting for a clearer coaching carousel, giving Mark a "deserved" chance. But there will always be something inconvenient about a change. If anything, the challenge of going against the rest of these programs for a new staff will either a) provide an opportunity for the administration to show it is ready to play big boy football or b) expose them for the penny pinchers we know they are.
I am just ready to rip off the band aid. We are delaying the inevitable or, way worse, giving Richt another opportunity to do what he does best: worm his way into another year. It is hard to imagine a true freshman is going to lead us to prosperity in 2016. That'll only build up excuses to be made by his diehards. Then we would just watch him blow the first 1/2 of the season, maybe pull of one upset, then lose another for a less than stellar season but signs of "promise". Then we do this same see-sawing of mediocrity where we are close but clearly far from the ultimate goal.
That's the narrative that kills me. We can make excuses (not yall, just saying we) about waiting for this next class, waiting for a clearer coaching carousel, giving Mark a "deserved" chance. But there will always be something inconvenient about a change. If anything, the challenge of going against the rest of these programs for a new staff will either a) provide an opportunity for the administration to show it is ready to play big boy football or b) expose them for the penny pinchers we know they are.
I am just ready to rip off the band aid. We are delaying the inevitable or, way worse, giving Richt another opportunity to do what he does best: worm his way into another year. It is hard to imagine a true freshman is going to lead us to prosperity in 2016. That'll only build up excuses to be made by his diehards. Then we would just watch him blow the first 1/2 of the season, maybe pull of one upset, then lose another for a less than stellar season but signs of "promise". Then we do this same see-sawing of mediocrity where we are close but clearly far from the ultimate goal.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:17 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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I get the challenge of competing with LSU, USC, etc
The other thing about that is, if that's Georgia's concern, who's to say that wouldn't be a concern next year too? Texas could give Strong another year and it may not work out. Brian Kelly could get a call from the NFL. So could Harbaugh. Urban is always good to fake another heart attack. If two of these happen, UGA would be third in line.
Worrying about the potential competition in the market is not a good strategy. If we're going to make the move, just do it and don't worry about who USCw or LSU go for and make the pitch to potential candidates.
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