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re: Mark Schlabach Recap
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:52 am to Peter Buck
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:52 am to Peter Buck
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We also still have this false pious group that is also steeped from the culture of cheap...
We love to pinch pennies and protect the ol boys. Never know when that next great depression is gonna hit, naw mean?
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:55 am to WG_Dawg
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but then I think that the current folks will be succeeded by people they've already been grooming to just carry on things business as usual.
This seems to be the way most corporations work. We need to find our Billy Beane.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:56 am to WG_Dawg
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I wonder what it'll take to ever change that. Part of me thinks that once old farts like mcgarity leave and a younger breed takes over we'll get more aggressive...but then I think that the current folks will be succeeded by people they've already been grooming to just carry on things business as usual.
I think that had Damon Evans not been busted until after Adams retired, we'd probably have that culture change. Instead, Evans got canned and Adams just went back to the same hiring well he had used the first time around, which included McGarity's name at #2. If McGarity ever leaves, I think you see Carla Williams elevated to AD (and deservedly so). She's a younger, former student-athlete at UGA and a hard-arse to boot.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:01 am to tylerdurden24
damn did do some very good things here, but I still despise his cross country scheduling tactics.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:17 am to WG_Dawg
Damon was just a huge arse kisser without a ton of substance. He would make a good politician... Especially with his huge ego and lack of self control. He was so far in over his head... So far. He was played like a string. He wasn't changing shite that mattered.
It's not about championships. It is about how much you want to spend and how much exposure you are willing to risk to be better than the other guy. The act of spending itself is a form of exposure in academic circles. It's part of the whole Ponzi scheme that is higher education.
if you look at the spending on Staff, support staff and capital projects before the UGA Christmas party vs after... It is pretty clear that there was a significant philisophiccal change... Not for Championships... But to keep up with the teams that are winning them...
It's not about championships. It is about how much you want to spend and how much exposure you are willing to risk to be better than the other guy. The act of spending itself is a form of exposure in academic circles. It's part of the whole Ponzi scheme that is higher education.
if you look at the spending on Staff, support staff and capital projects before the UGA Christmas party vs after... It is pretty clear that there was a significant philisophiccal change... Not for Championships... But to keep up with the teams that are winning them...
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:27 am to Peter Buck
Damon played the PR game really well, but that was kind of the point of hiring him. He was a compromise between Adams and Dooley, a puppet for Dooley to still be in charge without getting the applause that Adams loathed. He was basically Steve Patterson at Texas without the autonomy, doing all the superficial things that fans love (talking a good game in front of cameras, enhancing facilities, scheduling big cross-country opponents, etc) but, like you said, without any of the substance underneath. He was only ever meant to be a mask for the power struggle going on behind the scenes. And when he fricked it all up, we just went ultra conservative and safe. The question now is, under Morehead, how long do we stay safe and conervative? Does McGarity have it in him to be enterprising and aggressive?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:40 am to Peter Buck
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It's not about championships. It is about how much you want to spend and how much exposure you are willing to risk to be better than the other guy
what is so maddening is that our dumbass administration doesn't realize that by spending more money, you'll get better results. We're playing with one hand behind our back. As mentioned bama spends money out the wazoo, but what's it gotten them in return? The best coaches, a place players want to play, and the best team in america the last decade with multiple national titles. Oh, yeah...they also have been accepting a higher quality of student and their last few incoming freshman classes have been massive and statistically smarter than ever.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:55 am to WG_Dawg
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what is so maddening is that our dumbass administration doesn't realize that by spending more money, you'll get better results.
Do you really think that this is lost on our administration?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:59 am to ATLdawg25
It all started by Schlabach saying "if you're a UGA alum or UGA supporter stand up".
So we all stood up. He said "if you want mark richt fired sit down".
Bout 10 people sat out of the 50 standing.
He said..." yep UGA fans".
So we all stood up. He said "if you want mark richt fired sit down".
Bout 10 people sat out of the 50 standing.
He said..." yep UGA fans".
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:01 am to WG_Dawg
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what is so maddening is that our dumbass administration doesn't realize that by spending more money, you'll get better results.
Oh, they realize this. They're just slower to act and to move through the process than our competitors. Just look around the Athens campus; so many new ultra nice brick-and-mortar projects being thrown up in a year's time. This campus looks completely different than it did 10 years ago because of the money being poured into those kinds of projects. And yet... the actual University can move relatively quick on those types of projects but Athletics can't? Either they're hamstrung in a way we don't see or they're just... slow.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:03 am to olddawg26
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It all started by Schlabach saying "if you're a UGA alum or UGA supporter stand up".
So we all stood up. He said "if you want mark richt fired sit down".
Bout 10 people sat out of the 50 standing.
He said..." yep UGA fans".
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:11 am to ATLdawg25
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Do you really think that this is lost on our administration?
How could it not be? Actions speak for themselves.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:16 am to Sandwich
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I truly believe Richt getting another year comes down to Saturday at GT...IF we win..then he stays, if we lose, then I truly believe he "steps down".
Recruiting classes, be damned, getting rid of Richt trumps a bunch of 18 year olds.
No excuse to lose to Tech this year...100% none
Say you fire him and the recruiting class does go to shite. Now you're on the coaching carousel and you might not get your first or even second pick for HC. Say this drags on through December...and a guy doesn't assemble his staff fully til mid-January. He's got 3 weeks to go put something together? That's going to be rough for sure.
Then, when the next guy loses 6+ games both next year and 2017 the program is BEHIND where it was when we dropped Richt and the new guy has only been able to bring in 1 class of his own that isn't going to be full of immediate impact contributors...what do you do?
I think people are so desperate to get rid of Richt that they haven't thought about the actual end game and where the program actually goes in the future.
It's the same thing that happened at Nebraska and it can just as likely happen here. A lot will be told IMO by how Richt handles Schotty, if he's able to bring in top 5 class while under all this heat and Pruitt stays....isn't all the "behind the scenes" bullshite that people think is wrong with the program actually just bullshite?
In all of this, Pruitt has said jack shite about himself being unhappy or leaving. Even all of the friend of a friend comments were "Pruitt's office is cleaned out" "Pruitt went and fought Richt" and all that BS. My sources close to the program had a very different story to tell.
Anyhow, I think that if UGA lets him go they need to have a strong plan in place and basically an agreement in principle with an appropriate candidate and not get left out in the cold and hire a worse coach than LSU and USC do, setting us further behind.
LSU is really going to screw themselves if they drop Miles and hire the first guy who picks up the phone. I think there are very few suitable replacements for Richt or Miles.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:22 am to WG_Dawg
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Do you really think that this is lost on our administration?
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How could it not be? Actions speak for themselves.
I think saying "spend more money" is such an egregious oversimplification. Every three-toothed redneck with a UGA flag hanging from their trailer would say spending more money would yield better results. We just don't have the transparency to see that all of our problems would be solved by spending more.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:28 am to BMC398
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In all of this, Pruitt has said jack shite about himself being unhappy or leaving. Even all of the friend of a friend comments were "Pruitt's office is cleaned out" "Pruitt went and fought Richt" and all that BS. My sources close to the program had a very different story to tell.
What do your sources say about that situation?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:31 am to ATLdawg25
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We just don't have the transparency to see that all of our problems would be solved by spending more.
well...it took THIS long for us to actually pony up for an IPF. That was an issue of not spending money.
If you believe what is said in this very thread, we lost potentially teh greatest OC we've ever had because we didn't want to pay him enough money.
Richt has had to pay his assitants before out of his own pocket, that's an issue of not spending money.
We have only just now added "QC assistants" and other staff that every other big school had except us. I'm going out on a limb and saying that was probably due to not wanting to spend money.
We bused our team all the way to atlanta to fly to games instead of just flying out of BE 2 miles from campus. I have to imagine that was money related.
Each and every single one of those things above ties in to winnign games. No it doesn't make our QBs throw better, but it helps with your brand/image, which helps recruiting, which brings better caliber players, which make better plays. It all ties in together. I know there isn't a magic hat that you drop $1M into and you instantly get 2 more wins. But ponying up the money to put yourself at an advantage pays off, and we haven't even come close to doing that until like 2 years ago.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:34 am to olddawg26
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He said..." yep UGA fans"
Status Quo U
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:36 am to WG_Dawg
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If you believe what is said in this very thread,
well...I guess this is where we part ways.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:37 am to ATLdawg25
knowing our administration's history of paying assistants, is it that insane that we refused to give bobo a raise?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:39 am to ATLdawg25
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What do your sources say about that situation?
Well sadly, my source and dear friend passed away late last week so my info leak is over. If you are decently close to the AD you would know who he is. Not some major, major insider but he certainly had a big pulse on donors, worked in BM until early November and had many interactions with a substantial amount of employees within the FB program.
Asked him if Pruitt's office had been packed up on the day that 680 rolled with those rumors and the 11am answer was no, business as usual. Never said a word about Richt-Pruitt strife but did say specific things about Schitty-Pruitt stuff.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 10:40 am
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