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Mark Richt's 2 SEC Titles...
Posted on 10/10/15 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 10/10/15 at 7:01 pm
Were in 2002 and 2005. Go back and watch a college football game from that era.
The game has changed so, so, so much since then. And Richt simply hasn't changed with it.
Tennessee and Florida went through their worst stretches in decades in that timeframe and Richt STILL was incompetent of taking advantage. Now they made changes and are about to blow right past us as we stick with our coach.
I've been the most loyal Richt supporter you can find. I've honestly thought he was the man to lead our program. But 15 years is a long time. I've grown tired of being 9-3, 8-4.
It's time for Richt to go, and for us to get with the times in college football.
The game has changed so, so, so much since then. And Richt simply hasn't changed with it.
Tennessee and Florida went through their worst stretches in decades in that timeframe and Richt STILL was incompetent of taking advantage. Now they made changes and are about to blow right past us as we stick with our coach.
I've been the most loyal Richt supporter you can find. I've honestly thought he was the man to lead our program. But 15 years is a long time. I've grown tired of being 9-3, 8-4.
It's time for Richt to go, and for us to get with the times in college football.
This post was edited on 10/10/15 at 7:02 pm
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 7:20 pm to SICEMDAWGS11
You are correct. The SEC has changed dramatically in the previous 10 years but Richt has stayed the same. It is a shame that we have all this talent yet the coaching is our downfall.
Posted on 10/10/15 at 7:54 pm to DawgGONIT
And our defense didn't suck like it has ever sincere departure of Van Gorder
Posted on 10/10/15 at 9:31 pm to DawgGONIT
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DawgGONIT
Mark Richt's 2 SEC Titles...
You are correct. The SEC has changed dramatically in the previous 10 years but Richt has stayed the same. I
Talent is way overrated. Start with DB's and go to WR's.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 6:48 am to djsdawg
quote:What? Our talent at UGA has not been over rated.
Talent is way overrated. Start with DB's and go to WR's.
qb - Stafford, Murray, DJ Shockley, D Green
rb - Musa S, Moreno, Crowell, Gurley, Chubb, Michel
wr - Massaquoi, AJ Green, Fred Gibson, Terrence Edwards, Marlon Brown, Chris Conley
TE - L Pope, Artie Lynch, Orson Charles, Benjamin Watson
Oline - C Boling, D Andrews, Cordy Glenn, Ben Jones, Fernando Velasco
Dline - Cris Clemons, Geno Atkins, D Dobbs, Kedric Golston, John Jenkins, Charles Johnson, Abry Jones, Cornelius Washington, Jarius Wynn
LB'ers - Thomas Davis, Akeem Dent, D Ellerbe, Justin Houston, Jarvis Jones, Alec Olgetree, Ramik Wilson
DB's - Brandon Bokin, Sanders Cummings, Tim Jennings, Reshad Jones, Bacarri Rambo, Damian Swann, Shawn Williams
K/punter - Drew Butler, Blair Walsh
Sure while they were at UGA, they might not of been as product as there were when they got in the NFL with actual good coaching. Geno Atkins specifically comes to mind as a great example of this.
DJS, I know you've said we have lacked talent at UGA, but outside of Bama and LSU, we have more guys in the NFL than the rest of the SEC. Infact going into this season, Miami, Ohio ST, Bama, LSU, and UGA were the top 5 colleges with players in the NFL (could of been including practice squad or before the final rosters came out. This was in preseason, not sure how it stands as of today). So basically, Miami is an even bigger underachiever than UGA is.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 6:48 am to DawgGONIT
Posted on 10/11/15 at 7:00 am to djsdawg
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Talent is way overrated
We could field an entire NFL team, are you high? We have guys who have had a lot of success in the NFL.
Back to the OP, I couldn't agree more. My brother and I had this same talk pre-Bama. The vanilla smash mouth football worked very well early in Richt's tenure. However, when you have a one-dimensional QB (Lambert), pocket passer with no intangibles, you become predictable. The even bigger issue, NO game adjustments. We continue to make the same mistakes over and over. Butch Jones outcoached Richt yesterday, the end.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:12 am to Glory, Glory
quote:Don't group him in w/ the cannabis users, as it is an insult to us.
are you high
Maybe he is on some krokodil or bath salts. He has stated this before that our talent is part of the problem.
This post was edited on 10/11/15 at 8:13 am
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:16 am to SICEMDAWGS11
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I've grown tired of being 9-3, 8-4.
At this point, either record for this season sounds good.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:06 am to bpatters69
I have to wonder if Richt has grown tired of the game of football. He sometimes seems like someone going through the motions.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:15 am to DawgGONIT
Holy shite you people are all like blindly dumb and numb. Someone posted the recruiting rankings over the past five years earlier we were 9th and Tennessee was 15th. Absolutely no difference. Splitting hairs. The teams you all want to be are top 5. So, really, the talent isn't there.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:25 am to td01241
Our recruiting would be incredible if we were in the Big 10. Or the ACC. The trouble is is hat we are in the SEC...and when you have the fifth best class in the nation and the 3 rd best in your conference you have a recruiting problem.......
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:33 am to td01241
quote:This year we just don't have a qb worth a damn coupled with the fact Shotty is a shitty at calling plays leads to us being very vanilla. Again we do have talent, but our qb sucks so bad that we are limited on how good we will be. However in the years past we have had plenty of talent. This team is no different, a lot of guys will be in the NFL.
So, really, the talent isn't there.
qb - Stafford, Murray, DJ Shockley, D Green
rb - Musa S, Moreno, Crowell, Gurley, Chubb, Michel
wr - Massaquoi, AJ Green, Fred Gibson, Terrence Edwards, Marlon Brown, Chris Conley
TE - L Pope, Artie Lynch, Orson Charles, Benjamin Watson
Oline - C Boling, D Andrews, Cordy Glenn, Ben Jones, Fernando Velasco
Dline - Cris Clemons, Geno Atkins, D Dobbs, Kedric Golston, John Jenkins, Charles Johnson, Abry Jones, Cornelius Washington, Jarius Wynn
LB'ers - Thomas Davis, Akeem Dent, D Ellerbe, Justin Houston, Jarvis Jones, Alec Olgetree, Ramik Wilson
DB's - Brandon Bokin, Sanders Cummings, Tim Jennings, Reshad Jones, Bacarri Rambo, Damian Swann, Shawn Williams
K/punter - Drew Butler, Blair Walsh
Posted on 10/11/15 at 1:07 pm to DawgGONIT
We always have glaring talent/experience issues at some position, and I am not sure why you are listing guys from the championship years.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 6:13 pm to djsdawg
quote:We consistently put guys in the NFL. Look at the '08 and '09 teams. Look at the '11 and '12 teams. I was just listing guys who are currently in the NFL from UGA. Talent has never been an issue. Coaching has. Plus what other teams are loaded at every position? Bama usually always has a weak qb but they manage just fine. You will hardly ever find a complete team with talent and experience at every position and backups. All teams are going to have weaknesses. But can you play to your strengths?
We always have glaring talent/experience issues at some position, and I am not sure why you are listing guys from the championship years.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:46 pm to DawgGONIT
Simply using # of players on the 53 man roster can be very misleading:
1. It ignores positions of strength and weakness.
2. There can be a big difference between early round picks and late round picks.
3. There can be a big difference between NFL backups and NFL starters.
1. It ignores positions of strength and weakness.
2. There can be a big difference between early round picks and late round picks.
3. There can be a big difference between NFL backups and NFL starters.
This post was edited on 10/11/15 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:25 pm to djsdawg
quote:You can use the same measurements for all other teams in college and we are still only behind Bama and LSU, and top 5 in the nation. No way of slicing it, we have the talent to win the SEC that is for sure. Also if you make it in the NFL then you are clearly good enough talent wise. On this team right now we have a lot of talent that will make it to the NFL. They might not be stars but are good enough to make it. And fyi, UGA does have a lot of starters in the NFL and some are the best at their position, or could be considered top 5.
Simply using # of players on the 53 man roster can be very misleading:
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:20 pm to DawgGONIT
A simple look at drafts between Bama, LSU, and UGA from 09-15:
1st rd: Bama 17, LSU 7, UGA 6
2nd rd: Bama 7, LSU 6, UGA 2
3rd rd: Bama 4, LSU 12, UGA 8
4th rd: Bama 5, LSU 3, UGA 6
5-7 rd: Bama 15, LSU 16, UGA 15
Total: Bama 48, LSU 44, UGA 37
1st 2 rd: Bama 24, LSU 13, UGA 8
1st 3 rd: Bama 28, LSU 25, UGA 16
1st 4 rd: Bama 33, LSU 28, UGA 22
I would imagine that number of NFL starters generally follows a similar ratio, and Bama has a HUGE advantage over UGA. If we compare position groups like OL or DB, we may see a huge disparity at some of them, which would indicate a position of weakness for UGA.
1st rd: Bama 17, LSU 7, UGA 6
2nd rd: Bama 7, LSU 6, UGA 2
3rd rd: Bama 4, LSU 12, UGA 8
4th rd: Bama 5, LSU 3, UGA 6
5-7 rd: Bama 15, LSU 16, UGA 15
Total: Bama 48, LSU 44, UGA 37
1st 2 rd: Bama 24, LSU 13, UGA 8
1st 3 rd: Bama 28, LSU 25, UGA 16
1st 4 rd: Bama 33, LSU 28, UGA 22
I would imagine that number of NFL starters generally follows a similar ratio, and Bama has a HUGE advantage over UGA. If we compare position groups like OL or DB, we may see a huge disparity at some of them, which would indicate a position of weakness for UGA.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 12:23 am
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:42 am to djsdawg
Using what round someone was drafted in isn't a good measure. Why not just go with the guys who are in the NFL and not by the draft? The draft is usually hit or miss with guys as proven time and time again. Hell Stafford is a bust at qb, and he started out in the NFL w/ so much potential but could never fix his throwing motion.
Again there are a lot of UGA starters in the NFL and non starters who get playing time. Again we got the talent (maybe not this year at qb, but we still will put a bunch of guys in the NFL off this team).
Again there are a lot of UGA starters in the NFL and non starters who get playing time. Again we got the talent (maybe not this year at qb, but we still will put a bunch of guys in the NFL off this team).
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:48 am to DawgGONIT
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You are correct. The SEC has changed dramatically in the previous 10 years but Richt has stayed the same.
I don't get it. When Richt came here we passed the ball much more and ran less. now we run more and pass less. How have we stayed the same? I think he has adapted to his personel pretty well.
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It is a shame that we have all this talent yet the coaching is our downfall.
We usually finish 4-5th in the SEC in recruiting, and that si where we finish in the standings. We are playing to our talent level. We are recruiting better (MUCH better) right now, and i will be expecting better results.
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