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re: Kirby Smart and that entire coaching staff are a disgrace

Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:35 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:35 am to
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richt had 15 years to correct that and didn't. Kirby has had of 1 year.


That's a point...but WG...it's gotten worse. It's not a matter of it not being corrected. it's a matter f getting worse.

Now, I have not seen a worsening of penalties. (Maybe I have not noticed) But the team looks like the Grantham days. Confused and looking over to the sidelines.

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On the topic of discpline, I'll tell you what I HAVE seen. I have seen FAR less of our defnse looking befuddled and bewildered at the sideline looking for the call as the QB is snapping the ball.


You were not watching the Vanderbilt game after the opening kickoff, then. Take a look at the 2:45 mark.

LINK

Not only did the defense look totally lost, but their was total confusion among the coaching staff. They had no idea what personnel was in the game or which personnel should have been in the game. before the penalty was called we were pulling players off the field, then started putting the guys they just pulled off the field back on it again. It was total chaos, and that was even after having extra time during the penalty call and mark off. It was pretty bad.

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I've seen less personal fouls from jawing, taunting, and general tomfoolery than we were used to under richt.


I agree here. I love that. I HATED seeing our players mouthing off.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:37 am to
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Dude. Plenty of people were saying that. Crow and Durden have been saying that for a long time now.


Not before the season. There was talk about being thin at DL. But nobody was talking about a bare cupboard. Crap, they shouldn't be talking about it now as it simply isn't true. Bare cupboard infers a total lack of talent.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:41 am to
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Ecept it would be ore like Kirby is the sous chef, and not someone who has never cooked. He has coached his whole adult life. He was in charge of desserts for Saban. Saw how Saban cooked his mains, and Kirby took that over to the desserts, one would presume.



Ok. Now you are just making me hungry.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30535 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:52 am to
Do you have to reply to every single post that you disagree with?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:53 am to
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I also don't see anyone can think a true freshman can come in and win 10 games with all of our deficiencies.


Why do people keep saying 10 games and 12 games? Almost everybody expected 8-9 wins.

I am shocked that we all thought the talent was there for 8-9 wins, and now when we are looking bad, everybody is saying, "We knew we had no talent!"

If we knew we had no talent why did anybody predict us to win 8-9 games?

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You know last year the best team we beat was Georgia Southern, and then 2 were barely over .500, and the rest under .500%.


Georgia Southern went to a bowl game. They were head and shoulders better than Vanderbilt OR Nicholls.

I went to the Rant and found the Preseason Prediction thread. Here is what everybody thought :

Georgia, (9-3)
WG_Dawg- 9-3
gatorhata9- 9-3
tween the hedges- 9-3
td01241- 8-4
DawgsLife- 9-3
Crowknowsbest- 9-3
LewDawg- 8-4
BranchDawg- 9-3
Hullabaloo- 9-3
S1CEM- 10-2
IT_Dawg- 10-2
VADawg- 9-3
bdv1974- 10-2
3rddownonthe8- 10-2
Kneehigh- 9-3
crispyUGA- 8-4
dawgfan24348- 9-3
Glory,Glory- 9-3
dallasga6- 8-4
rockchlkjayhku11- 9-3
Dawgsontop34- 9-3
DrewDawg13- 11-1
MenloDawg- 8-4
RhodeDawg- 10-2
DawgCountry- 9-3
InfantryDawg- 8-4
bigdawg7780- 11-1
JakeScott- 8-4
dhuck20- 9-3

Now, somebody please tell me they thought before the season started that the cupboard was bare and we had no talent. Please tell me how obvious it was.


This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 6:55 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 7:07 am to
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Do you have to reply to every single post that you disagree with?


Sorry. It's a bad habit. I'll try to cut back.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25869 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 7:09 am to
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Now, somebody please tell me they thought before the season started that the cupboard was bare and we had no talent. Please tell me how obvious it was.

You keep saying that we're saying this, but we're not.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 7:30 am to
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You keep saying that we're saying this, but we're not.


Not all of you. But more than one person has said Richt left the cupboard bare....or that we have little to no talent.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25869 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 7:34 am to
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Not all of you. But more than one person has said Richt left the cupboard bare....or that we have little to no talent.


I think you're misinterpreting that. We are relatively bare on the OL and in the upperclassmen ranks in general. We're missing basically an entire class of guys that should be the leaders of the team, both emotionally and as playmakers. That's not insignificant.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 7:51 am to
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I think you're misinterpreting that. We are relatively bare on the OL and in the upperclassmen ranks in general. We're missing basically an entire class of guys that should be the leaders of the team, both emotionally and as playmakers. That's not insignificant.




I understand this, and I agree. Here are some of the comments:

The only thing we can and should blame richt for is the awful roster situation we inherited for this year.

Miami needs fans and they just lost to the same UNC team that Georgia beat. Kick rocks.

I was hoping to find the 2-3 comments about us having a bare cupboard. In context, I think you would have seen they were talking about the entire roster, however, I give up. There have been way too many bad threads (Like this one), so I can't find it. I don't like threads like this one. However, I get tired of people going ape on others who criticize Smart. I love debate...but when it comes to name calling or questioning somebody's loyalties because they criticize the coach I lose patience.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27288 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:19 pm to
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Georgia, (9-3)
WG_Dawg- 9-3
gatorhata9- 9-3
tween the hedges- 9-3
td01241- 8-4
DawgsLife- 9-3
Crowknowsbest- 9-3
LewDawg- 8-4
BranchDawg- 9-3
Hullabaloo- 9-3
S1CEM- 10-2
IT_Dawg- 10-2
VADawg- 9-3
bdv1974- 10-2
3rddownonthe8- 10-2
Kneehigh- 9-3
crispyUGA- 8-4
dawgfan24348- 9-3
Glory,Glory- 9-3
dallasga6- 8-4
rockchlkjayhku11- 9-3
Dawgsontop34- 9-3
DrewDawg13- 11-1
MenloDawg- 8-4
RhodeDawg- 10-2
DawgCountry- 9-3
InfantryDawg- 8-4
bigdawg7780- 11-1
JakeScott- 8-4
dhuck20- 9-3


Great job Dawgslife! C'mon folks OWN the frick up to it...highly doubt most will step up.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25869 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:24 pm to
I didn't think we would lose to Vanderbilt. Happy?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27288 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:39 pm to
Well,I think we all know we won't sniff 9-3. Crow,I believe we both had the same expectations before the year.I thought we would contend in the east but 9 wins
was the probably the ceiling.

As a season ticket holder and someone who's heavily vested in the program.I'm
never happy when we underperform. Just very frustrated with how things are
being run at Butts-Mehre.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 6:41 pm
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:44 pm to
I predicted losses to OM, UT and one of UF/AU.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32738 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 7:52 pm to
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The only thing we can and should blame richt for is the awful roster situation we inherited for this year.


Awful may have been too strong of a word, but the point was correct and it remains correct. To make it worse, its exacerbated by very inconsistent coaching moves.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:01 am to
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Why do people keep saying 10 games and 12 games? Almost everybody expected 8-9 wins.
Then why do you numb nuts keep mentioning how Richt won 10 games last year when we didn't even beat anyone worth a damn. Our most impressive victory last year was vs GSU, but yeah lets keep bragging out we won 10 games last year. And who is saying 12 wins? I think you are the first to mention that.

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Now, somebody please tell me they thought before the season started that the cupboard was bare and we had no talent. Please tell me how obvious it was.
I never thought our Oline was good going into this season. I haven't thought we had a good Oline in a long time. I know some want to say how good our Oline was when Gurley was here, but I have always disagreed and believe that Gurley and preinjury Chubb, made our Oline look way better than they ever were.

Plus I think most people wanted us to start Eason over Lambert and expected us to take our lumps with him. If Stafford, the #1 pick in the draft, couldn't come in as a freshman and tear it up, then why do some UGA fans expect Eason to come in and light the SEC on fire?

Plus we lost 2 pretty damn good LBs and Carter has showed the measureables but never really put it all together in any game prior to this season and same with Bellamy, so yeah LB wasn't a position of great hope either. Our DBs haven't played that well, but it does seem to be just a few guys who are struggling, and another problem that has been happening here at UGA for a while is having some short DBs. We usually field some shorter DBs and they struggle vs tall WRs or TEs. Parrish has been getting destroyed by taller guys and can't stop those 'jump ball' passes. This will always be a problem until we can get some taller CBs in there.

Also our WR position was a position of worry too, as we lost M Mitchell who was our best WR (although I thought he was overrated some, but that is mainly b/c of qb play). Outside of Godwin and IM, we were unproven and even then IM wasn't expected to be our #1 WR like he has this season, and the other guys don't seem to be doing that well.

Our TEs may be good, but so far it seems like Nauta is the only one worth a damn. I'm sure CW will be a stud, but right now he hasn't done much other than that one great block on a TD. We UGA fans have over hyped this position, but the upperclassman at TE must not be that good if Nauta is coming in and getting major playing time. Blaze was pretty good his freshman year but has quieted down big time. I see him mainly in for blocking, but I still see him miss plenty of his blocks as well, the biggest one led to that sack on Eason in the endzone. I know I will catch hell for this, but what has Blaze, J Davis, and J Harris done this year?

Plus have you watched any of the games? Our talent level is very low. I think it is obvious and sure Kirby has taken his lumps too as a coach, but when people are saying that Richt won 10 games last year, then want to talk shite about Kirby, is just retarded. I'm not saying you are doing this dawgslife, but there are some in this thread that are doing so and they are the ones who are praising how Richt won 10 games last year. I think it is obvious to most that Richt left this team with hardly any talent and then combine that with a freshman qb, a rookie coach and new coordinators then you get the results that we are seeing this season.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:36 am to
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Awful may have been too strong of a word, but the point was correct and it remains correct. To make it worse, its exacerbated by very inconsistent coaching moves.
You are correct. We do have roster problems. Nobody should deny this. Depth, mainly. Inexperience. Kicking. (Hopefully Rodrigo has regained his confidence and this is not longer a concern)

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its exacerbated by very inconsistent coaching moves.


Thank you. I think that is what a lot of us wanted to hear. Not necessarily you, but many have been pointing fingers at Richt for years, and continue to do so. He deserves some blame for the mess we are in, but many can't seem to place blame all around, and instead want to harass those who are willing (Some more than willing) to call out the current coaching staff.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:46 am to
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Then why do you numb nuts keep mentioning how Richt won 10 games last year when we didn't even beat anyone worth a damn. Our most impressive victory last year was vs GSU, but yeah lets keep bragging out we won 10 games last year. And who is saying 12 wins? I think you are the first to mention that


And this is the disconnect. MOST do not bring up Richt. This entire conversation is about the current coaching staff. Nobody expected 10 wins, so why keep saying we shouldn't have expected it?

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Plus I think most people wanted us to start Eason over Lambert and expected us to take our lumps with him. If Stafford, the #1 pick in the draft, couldn't come in as a freshman and tear it up, then why do some UGA fans expect Eason to come in and light the SEC on fire?


Probably. But he is still better than Lambert an is ranked about 7th in the SEC QB's. About average.

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Also our WR position was a position of worry too, as we lost M Mitchell who was our best WR (although I thought he was overrated some, but that is mainly b/c of qb play). Outside of Godwin and IM, we were unproven and even then IM wasn't expected to be our #1 WR like he has this season, and the other guys don't seem to be doing that well


We lost ONE WR. One that was injured his first three years here. While it is a weak spot, it is hardly a bare cupboard.
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Our TEs may be good, but so far it seems like Nauta is the only one worth a damn.

The talent is there. If the others are not performing, it is a coaching problem. But, honestly, I don't think it is coaching. I think Eason feels comfortable throwing to Nauta and starts looking for him early. However, we are still getting more production from our TE's.

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Plus have you watched any of the games? Our talent level is very low.

But that's the whole point. it's not. We have signed 40 4* or above since 2014. Some of the bad mistakes we are seeing s due to coaching. ST miscues? That is coaching. Mental errors....coaching. Clock management...coaching. Confusion on the field....coaching. Having the wrong players on the field...coaching. We blamed coaching for all of these things in years past...why is it different now?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12412 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:54 am to
Wow... seems odd that everyone thought we would win a bunch of games even though Richt left the team with almost no D1 players? I guess the assumption was Smart and the staff would be able to coach them up.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13149 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 8:03 am to
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Wow... seems odd that everyone thought we would win a bunch of games even though Richt left the team with almost no D1 players? I


Quote proving that anyone on this board ever stated that? Your hyperbole/sarcasm has gotten stall. You talk about no one accepting/believing your facts but when you make comments like this you don't exactly lend credibility to your statements.
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 8:06 am
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