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re: Kirby Smart and that entire coaching staff are a disgrace

Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:39 pm to
100...an anchor would be nice...
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 2:41 pm
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:45 pm to
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.an anchor would be nice...


Your right, we should have added this anchor to our collection Saturday......

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:01 pm to
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Bs. Folks discussed the negative effects of the 2013 class before game 1 this year


And as usual you take the post out of context...did I not just say in the freaking post that there were concerns about the OL and WR's? Jesus,did you even read the whole thing.

Once again,show me ONE FREAKIN post about the "worst roster in 20 years" or the "worst roster
of the 2000's" BEFORE the season started. How about you show me a post about how much our secondary lacked talent,especially after we got Smith?

Only dipshits like yourself starting making these proclamations to cover your arse and to cover Kirby's arse.


Hell,I even saw you on SECR talking about the talent of our LB's and DL BEFORE the season...bet you went back and did some edits.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:16 pm to
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Bs. Folks discussed the negative effects of the 2013 class before game 1 this year.


This is true. but NOBODY was saying Richt left the cupboard bare. Or talked about us having a horrible roster, and that's what he is saying.

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Having little talent at db

No, this wasn't. I DO remember you saying it. however, most people pointed to the #1 passing defense from last year. Yeah, I know we played poor passers, but it still does not explain the HUGE drop off from last year to this year, does it? I was hoping for a top 5 pass defense in the SEC, and thought that was perfectly reasonable.

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1 upperclassmen at dl was also known before game 1.


Yes. But we also knew we had/have some extremely talented underclassmen. And, they have actually played better than anticipated.

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We knew we wouldn't be awesome at qb either.


We did expect to be improved, though, and we are.

Seriously....were you saying "The cupboard is bare!" before the season started? NOBODY was saying we have a horrible roster, or nobody would have predicted 8-9 wins like we all were.

I hate to keep repeating myself, but we always have newbies jump in the conversation and misunderstand me.

I do not think the staff is a disgrace. I do not like the sentiment of this thread. I do believe that Kirby Smart will end up being a good coach and do well here at Georgia. I also believe that he should get a MINIMUM of 4 years to get us where we need to be, however, I do NOT believe we will ever be Alabama east, or will ever get to where Alabama is now. (Although, I hope I am wrong about that last one)
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:22 pm to
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How about you show me a post about how much our secondary lacked talent,especially after we got Smith?


RD, I agree with what you are saying. I will, however, say that he and I got into it before the season about the secondary. He said it was way overrated, and I said it probably was, but that it should at least be very good and a top 5 in the SEC secondary. he disagreed.

That said, it was not a common feeling. Most people felt we had plenty of talent in the back to have a good secondary. I NEVER saw anybody bemoan a huge lack of talent on the team as a whole. All we have to do is look at the preseason picks on the regular rant that WG does every year. Almost every Georgia fan (If not every one) picked us to win 8-9 games. Teams with "bare cupboards" do not win 8-9 games.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:45 pm to
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like yourself starting making these proclamations to cover your arse and to cover Kirby's arse.


The roster isn't Of the quality you think it is.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:50 pm to
ok lets say the roster is shite...pure shite.

What else was Kirby supposed to do besides win a lot of games?

He was gonna make us disciplined man. Like Alabama disciplined. And he was gonna be focusing on the details. Dotting the "i's" and crossing the "t's".

Richt teams were undisciplined and they committed penalties. Kirby was gonna fix that.

So far Kirby gets a F in that regard.

That shite doesn't involve talent.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:54 pm to
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Richt teams were undisciplined and they committed penalties. Kirby was gonna fix that.

So far Kirby gets a F in that regard.


richt had 15 years to correct that and didn't. Kirby has had of 1 year.

We have had some STUPID penalties. But that's expected! Nick Saban could have left bama and been our coach starting this year and rico mcgraw would still run with his helmet off like an idiot. You simply can't fix every.single.little.problem in a program in half a year. It's not possible.

On the topic of discpline, I'll tell you what I HAVE seen. I have seen FAR less of our defnse looking befuddled and bewildered at the sideline looking for the call as the QB is snapping the ball. Are we a great defense? Not exactly, but at least they know what they're doing for the most part. I've seen less personal fouls from jawing, taunting, and general tomfoolery than we were used to under richt. I do see some boneheaded mistkes like too many men on the field, which is par for the course with a guy doing this for the first time.

If we're still committing dumb penalties in year 3 or 4 I'll be concerned. Now is not the time for concern.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:58 pm to
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This is true. but NOBODY was saying Richt left the cupboard bare. Or talked about us having a horrible roster, and that's what he is saying.



Dude. Plenty of people were saying that. Crow and Durden have been saying that for a long time now.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:59 pm to
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richt had 15 years to correct that and didn't. Kirby has had of 1 year.



Nope. Totally fair to compare year 1 to year 15.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23957 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 4:12 pm to
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richt had 15 years to correct that and didn't. Kirby has had of 1 year.



That is simple stuff to fix that shouldnt take more than an off-season.

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On the topic of discpline, I'll tell you what I HAVE seen. I have seen FAR less of our defnse looking befuddled and bewildered at the sideline looking for the call as the QB is snapping the ball.


That hadn't happened since Grantham was here.


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I've seen less personal fouls from jawing, taunting, and general tomfoolery than we were used to under richt. I do see some boneheaded mistkes like too many men on the field, which is par for the course with a guy doing this for the first time.



we are averaging 2 more penalties per game.

In 2006 Alabama averaged 6 per game.

In 2007 Alabama averaged 4 per game.

Details are what make Saban. Those stats have nothing to do with talent. And that is what Kirby has to focus on. Talent will help, but being a sound, disciplined football team is a key part of Alabama
model as well.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23957 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 4:14 pm to
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Nope. Totally fair to compare year 1 to year 15.



Who cares what year it is? Its a philosophy/mindset, not something only a seasoned coach do.

Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 4:22 pm to
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That is simple stuff to fix that shouldnt take more than an off-season.


if it's so simple then why don't seasoned coaches have it all figured out? How come kids all over america are still committing penalties?

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we are averaging 2 more penalties per game.

In 2006 Alabama averaged 6 per game.

In 2007 Alabama averaged 4 per game.


Looks like this year we're averaging about 6 penalties per game. Last year we averaged about 5. I'll be curious to see how we end up over the last half of the year.

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Details are what make Saban.


That's very true, and currently saban is in his what, 24th year as a head coach? Thigns take time. The great thing we have going for us is that by the time saban got teh details sorted out and really figured out what works, kirby was already his right hand man and has been for the last almost decade. If you've never cooked before in your life but you've been in the kitchen watching the world's best chef and he handed you over his tried and true recipe, it'd be natural to expect some frick ups or odd tastes the first couple batches you attempt. Because hey, you've never done it before. But after your 8th or 9th try at whatever it is you're making, odds are that it's gonna be pretty close to that excellent quality product. This is no different. Kirby knows exactly what to do, he's just doing it for the first time.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23957 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 4:36 pm to

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if it's so simple then why don't seasoned coaches have it all figured out? How come kids all over america are still committing penalties?



The good ones do. Of course there are still penalties, dont be dense.

Good coaches take out the undisciplined ones.

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f you've never cooked before in your life but you've been in the kitchen watching the world's best chef and he handed you over his tried and true recipe, it'd be natural to expect some frick ups or odd tastes the first couple batches you attempt. Because hey, you've never done it before. But after your 8th or 9th try at whatever it is you're making, odds are that it's gonna be pretty close to that excellent quality product.


Ecept it would be ore like Kirby is the sous chef, and not someone who has never cooked. He has coached his whole adult life. He was in charge of desserts for Saban. Saw how Saban cooked his mains, and Kirby took that over to the desserts, one would presume.

Kirby is now in charge of the mains. The first couple of meals (games) might be funky, but by meal 7 he should be right on the heals of his mentor, if has truly been paying attention and or has talent.

The UF game should be telling. He has two weeks to make us a more sound football team.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 6:39 pm to
Even a sou chef, whatever that is, should have no trouble beating a Vanderbilt with this team though right?. Beating vandy is about as hard for a chef to screw up as making a bowl of cereal. But Kirby opened the box and Cap'n Crunch flew everywhere and when he tried to pour the milk in the bowl, he missed the bowl entirely, then slipped in the puddle it made, and stabbed himself in the ear with a spoon.

Beating Nicholls state by more than 2 points should have been about as hard as making toast. But he nearly burned the house down and the whole house still stinks. Like burnt toast.


Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23957 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 6:56 pm to



Well said.


Did you see where south GA Dawg threatened to bookmark a post so he could bump it in three years and brag about us competing for the east?

In year 3...competing for the east.

I couldn't believe it.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 7:11 pm to


In three years Kirby will have learned not to burn toast! You'll see!

Posted by tybeebomb
State of Chatham
Member since Jul 2014
1012 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:36 pm to
Hi .. I didn't bother reading anything else you or the other five pages said ... But you dumb. Relax ... Take a Tylenol 3 ... And just think about things. It'll be okay :)
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:29 am to
If your daddy was Samson, I wish all of the seed had spilled to the ground.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:24 am to
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Kirby Smart and that entire coaching staff are a disgrace

quote:
1. We get Nick Chubb back
2. With Holyfield and Herrien we are deeper at RB
3. Eason is much better than Lambert....or should be.
4. ANYBODY is better than Schottenheimer
5. Pruitt was good, but not worth the turmoil he brings.
6. We will not get blown out on the National Stage
7. We probably will not win the East, but we could sneak into it....probably will be third.


People also talked about:

1. OL that was bad a year ago replacing two starters.
2. A freshman QB
3. Chubb may not be all the way back
4. WR a serious question
5. A DL comprised almost entirely of true freshmen and sophomores.
6. Pass rush may be an issue after losing Floyd and Jenkins.

Those were clear warning signs.


Exactly this Crow. I know some people were very adamant about Chubb coming back and being stronger than ever. It was on here and/or on Dawgs 24/7. I also never bought the hype that Chubb was some superhuman, when in fact he has been injured a few times while at UGA prior to the knee. I figured it would take him a while to get back, but I also thought he would be fine by now.

I also don't see anyone can think a true freshman can come in and win 10 games with all of our deficiencies. I also thought our Oline was garbage, even when Gurley was here his Jr year, when everyone was speaking of how good they were. I think that year, Gurley got like 60% or more of his yards came after contact. So yeah, Gurley was able to make our Oline look way better than it really was. Then throw in the fact we got guys playing out of position and Kubs at Center is a joke.

I think it is obvious that this team isn't that good or talented, but hey lets expect them to win 10 games. You know last year the best team we beat was Georgia Southern, and then 2 were barely over .500, and the rest under .500%. Again our team last year was probably the most over hyped 10 win team, in the nation if not ever (especially at UGA).

There are too many holes on our team at critical positions that I would think most sensible UGA fans would see. However there are still turds out there that ignore all of these things and expect us to win 10 games since we did last year, even with a true freshman at qb, our star RB coming off a gruesome injury, and all the other holes on the team. Plus throw in a new head coach and coordinators and it is retarded to expect us to win 10 games. RETARDED!
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