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re: Jon got his Ossoff Hand-ed to him. Karen wins Handely
Posted on 6/21/17 at 5:31 am to Lucius Clay
Posted on 6/21/17 at 5:31 am to Lucius Clay
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Price won the same district by 23 points in 2016. Handel won by 4 points. If Trump is the reason for it tightening from 23 to 4, that ain't good for Trump...or Republicans.
So what?Trump only won the district by 1 point in November. Oscoff ran as a moderate Republican and had unlimited funds and Handel is a pretty weak candidate.
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 6:51 am to Lucius Clay
Ossoff spent 30M and gained only 9 points from the last guy who ran against Price who spent < $1000 
$30M would have gone a long way to help all those people you Libs pretend to care about
$30M would have gone a long way to help all those people you Libs pretend to care about
Posted on 6/21/17 at 7:05 am to Lucius Clay
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If Trump is the reason for it tightening from 23 to 4, that ain't good for Trump...or Republicans.
Yea Handel only won by 4 points. While this is a huge loss for dems, I don't think this is a huge win for Republicans. I think this does show Trump's popularity isn't very strong in urban areas. The plus side is Republicans didn't lose any seats so far, so Trump has until Nov to get his popularity up.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 7:27 am to BreezyDawg
Despite the dems spending $30m, this referendum on trump backfired and Handel pulled a higher number and percentage than Trump.
People looking to make this as progress for liberals when their candidate ran on a Republican platform (cut spending, pro-business) are making themselves look foolish.
People looking to make this as progress for liberals when their candidate ran on a Republican platform (cut spending, pro-business) are making themselves look foolish.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 7:53 am to RD Dawg
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Handel is a pretty weak candidate.
Ossoff wasn't? A 30-year-old documentary film maker?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:01 am to meansonny
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People looking to make this as progress for liberals when their candidate ran on a Republican platform (cut spending, pro-business) are making themselves look foolish.
I think the real lesson is that these gerrymandered districts like GA6 and the SC district are essentially unwinnable by any Democrat, no matter what their views. In GA6, a Dem candidate would have to get at least 20% of Republicans voting for him or her. That isn't going to happen unless the Republican candidate is a registered sex offender or is arrested for murder in the middle of the race.
I'm amazed it was as close as it was in both of those districts.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:27 am to Lucius Clay
Agree to disagree.
The media polled ossof higher.
And the CA money wouldn't have poured in if there was not an expectation that he could have won.
And you either use hyperbole or are making stuff up when you say Ossof needed 20% of the Republican vote.
I don't think you understand how transient Georgia is. My family from Chicago all voted Ossof and are crying in their brats that Handel won.
The media polled ossof higher.
And the CA money wouldn't have poured in if there was not an expectation that he could have won.
And you either use hyperbole or are making stuff up when you say Ossof needed 20% of the Republican vote.
I don't think you understand how transient Georgia is. My family from Chicago all voted Ossof and are crying in their brats that Handel won.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:36 am to Lucius Clay
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Ossoff wasn't? A 30-year-old documentary film maker?
Handel is a freakin community college drop out and had a
pretty undistinguished political career.Ossoff does have Masters from the London School of economics and was
a congressional staffer,I mean the guy is a complete fraud but I'd say he had about the same resume as BHO when he ran for Senate in Illinois probably better,
Name a modern Ga dem who would have run a better campaign or garnered more votes?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:38 am to DawgCountry
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$30M would have gone a long way to help all those people you Libs pretend to care about
"We need to get money out of politics (rabble rabble rabble)"
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:11 am to gatorhata9
The party of do as we say, not as we do
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:57 am to meansonny
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And you either use hyperbole or are making stuff up when you say Ossoff needed 20% of the Republican vote.
It's the demographic reality of the district. Do your homework and you'll see that was the case. Check the detailed number crunching. He actually did get a decent percentage of former Republican voters (like estimated 15%) but would have needed even more crossover (either that or an unprecedented turnout).
So he "could" have won...obviously since he got 48% of the vote...but the fact that the Democrats put so much faith in this guy's chances seems like more bad strategy. He probably lost the vote of people over 60 by a huge margin.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:07 am to Lucius Clay
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Price won the same district by 23 points in 2016. Handel won by 4 points. If Trump is the reason for it tightening from 23 to 4, that ain't good for Trump...or Republicans.
Or...Handel was a poor candidate. The Dems broke records pouring money into this race in an effort to pull an upset. They pulled out all the stops and still lost. It was a crushing defeat for them as they thought they had a legitimate chance.
Their hateful rhetoric, stonewalling, and violence is catching up to them. The left is demoralized and reeling after four defeats in special elections. You would think if Trump was turning people off, the Dems would have captured at least one of those elections, yet they couldn't. They are reeling and demoralized.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:08 am to RD Dawg
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he had about the same resume as BHO when he ran for Senate in Illinois probably better,
Ummm...no. Obama had worked as attorney in a civil rights law firm in Chicago for 8 years and was also involved in community development. That was before serving in the IL state senate for two terms.
So Obama's background prior to being elected to the US Senate in 2004 was a little more than Ossoff's experience in public service.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:10 am to DawgsLife
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hateful rhetoric, stonewalling, and violence is catching up to them.
Quote of the year. Seen any Trump rallies? ROTFLMAO!
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:14 am to DawgsLife
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if Trump was turning people off
You do realize that Trump didn't win a majority vote in the first place, and at present, his approval nationally is hovering at all time lows, right?
Keep on believing or getting news from Breitbart but the real test will be where things stand after '18 and '20. As for Trump himself, he will be lucky to get a second term. (Assuming he makes it through this one).
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:16 am to Lucius Clay
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Quote of the year. Seen any Trump rallies? ROTFLMAO!
I've seen ANTIFA, riots, severed heads and shootings....have the rallies been worse than that?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:20 am to Lucius Clay
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You do realize that Trump didn't win a majority vote in the first place, and at present, his approval nationally is hovering at all time lows, right?
And I know it is higher than Bill Clinton's was at this point in their Presidency. I also give a lot of his low ratings due to a highly biased media, that does not even pretend to be impartial anymore.
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Keep on believing or getting news from Breitbart but the real test will be where things stand after '18 and '20. As for Trump himself, he will be lucky to get a second term. (Assuming he makes it through this one).
I fully expect the Dems to win some seats back at the midterms and in 2020. If they don't they will be in bigger trouble than you realize. I don't think any party holding power has not lost seats in the midterms.
I know the Dems have been losing seats since Obama was elected, starting in 2010, and have lost seats at every level of government from the states on up.
Would you like to refute that?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:21 am to Lucius Clay
Did you miss the firebombing of GOP offices in NC?
How bout the GOP congressman David Kustoff being run dowe by a car because of his Healthcare vote?
And who could forget the assination attempt last week.
How bout thone lovely AnTifa protesters rioting and assulting?
How bout those peaceful BLM protest in Missouri?
Nah,when comes to violence and violent rhetoric,your team is in the lead by a wide margin.
How bout the GOP congressman David Kustoff being run dowe by a car because of his Healthcare vote?
And who could forget the assination attempt last week.
How bout thone lovely AnTifa protesters rioting and assulting?
How bout those peaceful BLM protest in Missouri?
Nah,when comes to violence and violent rhetoric,your team is in the lead by a wide margin.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:25 am to Lucius Clay
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:29 am to DawgsLife
You guys are wasting your time. MSNBC and The NY Times say Trump voters and mad racist violent angry white men so it must be true.
Never mind that the left is ALWAYS more angry, nasty, violent and racist.
Never mind that the left is ALWAYS more angry, nasty, violent and racist.
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