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re: Jason Isbell and the Dawgs in Nashville

Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:40 pm to
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:40 pm to
Live in Nashville.

Will be at the game that Saturday, but if I try to scalp tickets to Isbell, Ill have to do it for the Tuesday show. Leaving Wednesday to head to Georgia to see the family for 5 days. Garth in the new Mercedes Dome Thursday, and the Mizzou game on Saturday.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

Speed Trap Town, Palmetto Rose, and Super 8 Motel are all solid. Dress Blues and Elephant are also legitimately great songs but definitely sad.

The 24 frames is sticking with me for some reason. What is that shite about?

I guess if it's good song-writing, there's no right answer and it means something different to each person. Here's my take though:

-24 frames is obviously the deal where in old films there's 24 frames per second. (aka memories)
-so, the song is about your LIfe's movie (looked back upon)
-and how it all changed in a second

-so, in this particular movie there's 4 characters
-a lover, a little brother, a mother, and God

-early on you "thought God was an architect"
-and he made everything perfect for you.

-but then a pipe bomb explodes

-and one of the characters dies

-if you take the words on their face, it couldn't have been the brother, the lover, or the mother

-so this song is about his impression of God dying.
-because of the fact that one of the other three characters died. That's the pipe-bomb. That changed everything and made him think about the other characters differently.


-I mean, he's welcome to his opinion, but that's a naïve way to look at things, imo.
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
6348 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 11:57 pm to
Not sure if you are serious with this, but

I think the song is about how you've made plans in the past about the future for a happy life, and how God's supposed plan has fricked everything up, and you're now left not knowing where to go.

Hence the calling your mother(its too late now), or being in love with a woman and it ending.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:28 am to
There's some resentment in there though...(maybe that's natural)

-he used to think "God was an architect"
-what do architects do? They design and build things.
-but now he thinks that God is "more like a pipebomb"
-what do pipe bombs do? They tear apart and destroy things.

-it takes time to design and build things
-but only a second (24 frames) to be destroyed

-Jason Isbell has abandoned God/spirituality on a pity-party tantrum whim after nature does what we all know nature can.... and will..... always do. By definition/design.

-And yet now he finds himself appreciating some fundamental things more, that he didn't before

-So basically the pipebomb detonation was in the architectural blueprints in fine print down by the legend, but he didn't bother reading that part, but it doesn't matter, because the plan is going as planned and he's now appreciating things more that he wouldn't have. And he's bitching about it and floating on the ceiling.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46384 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:43 am to
IIRC some of 24 frames has to do with his divorce. Basically how (as devils said) you make all these plans for what your life is going to be only for them to be done away with (I think the "24 frames" aspect is less a comment on the expediency with which plans change and more the way we tend to remember things in snapshots and snippets).

So, when he sings "this is how you help her when her heart stops beating / you vanish so she can go drowning in a dream again," he's referring to the fact that he's the one dragging her down and has to leave for her to be inspired and happy again.

"You thought god was an architect / now you know he's something like a pipe bomb ready to blow / and everything you built was all for show / it goes up in flames in 24 frames": Our futures aren't plotted out, rather we're pinballing around from one thing to the next and as we try to latch onto some sense of normalcy and understanding about the world, we pinball off the next wall, blowing our whole idea to shite.
Posted by JakeScott
Lake Lanier
Member since Oct 2015
695 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 11:24 am to
quote:

The 24 frames is sticking with me for some reason


You got that shite right. It's a earworm mother fricker.

quote:

Jason Isbell loves him some Jason Isbell


Last of my kind? Just a hunch

give" Something to Love" a spin. It describes my early childhood to a T, just change Sunday night to Saturday night and Winston lights to moonshine.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:40 pm to
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So, when he sings "this is how you help her when her heart stops beating / you vanish so she can go drowning in a dream again,"

he's referring to the fact that he's the one dragging her down and has to leave for her to be inspired and happy again.

She's already dead though. Her heart stopped. And God is driving the black car remember? Which is the funeral hearse carrying the shell her soul used to live in to the burial site.

Maybe that line means you have to let go of the tragic sad parts and shock/pain about the death so her soul can swim around drowning in happiness with unlimited frame numbers in the dream world of your memory? Realizing that it's not about you and your selfish pain. Letting go and all that.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46384 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:45 pm to
Heart stopped in the metaphorical sense. As in she doesn't love him anymore.

quote:

And God is driving the black car remember?

Could be a lot of things, a hearse being one of them. Could also be a hit man's car (kind of like black helicopter)

quote:

Maybe that line means you have to let go of the tragic sad parts and shock/pain about the death so her soul can swim around drowning in happiness with unlimited frame numbers in the dream world of your memory? Realizing that it's not about you and your selfish pain. Letting go and all that.


I could see that. Solid interpretation
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:50 pm to
There's no right or wrong. That's what makes good lyrics good.

I don't even think Isbell knows what it means honestly. Good songwriters have some kind of antenna that normal people don't, and these lyrics are all floating around up in the cosmos invisibly. And somehow they're able to tune into these invisivble frequencies sometimes.....and then bring them down into this dimension for us.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

give" Something to Love" a spin.


A song to sing
or a Tale to tell



Hear, hear.
Posted by JakeScott
Lake Lanier
Member since Oct 2015
695 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 6:12 pm to
"It'll serve you well"

Jefferson, I'm starting to sense a conversion here.
You may want to hold off on "Yvette",I don't know if you're ready yet.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 6:43 pm to
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You may want to hold off on "Yvette",I don't know if you're ready yet.

Probably not, because he's so obsessed with his feewings and it's kind of depressing, but I'll check it out.

Hang on.

Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

Yvette

frick!! I knew it.

-child molestation
-torment
-broken families racked with guilt and misery
-and cold blooded murder

shite is exhausting dude. ANd notice how he casts himself as the reluctant white knight noble hero behind the scope. Yep. That's what I meant earlier. Dude's in love with himself.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 7:37 pm to
My turn...

Jake Scott/TylerDurden, Meet your new favorite singer song-writer. This dude is a genius.


Poor Man's Jason Isbell = LINK.................................
Posted by King of Cloverhurst
Johns Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2016
364 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 7:55 pm to
Jeff give "Alabama Pines" a listen. I think it's probably Isbell's most radio friendly song and could be your next step in the conversion process...
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7895 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:15 pm to
I read an interview recently about how depressing his songs were. He basically said just because he writes in the first person, it doesn't necessarily mean it's about him. Kind of like when an author writes a book in first person - that doesn't mean it's an autobiography per se.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46384 posts
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:34 pm to
Chris Knight is awesome. Reminds me of Jamey Johnson and some of DBT's earlier stuff (when Isbell was still involved). That particular song you linked reminds me of DBT's Puttin People on the Moon
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14132 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 6:27 am to
I've tried but Isbell doesn't do it for me. His vocals and music are kinda blah. It's hard to get excited about lyrics only. The music has to actually be enjoyable to listen to.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 6:29 am
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:42 pm to
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I've tried but Isbell doesn't do it for me.

I'm done trying. It took me about 3 days to get the bad vibes out of my brain after listening to all those songs..

According to Jason Isbell, as soon you leave the interstate while outside the perimeter highway of a megalopolis.....it's wall to wall child molestors, depression and alcoholics, people dying of cancer, depression and alcoholics, acoholics, molesters, and depression,............ and most importantantly the afflicted heroe (aka himself) suffering under the weight of all the depression/alcoholism/backwardness/and molestation, and a bunch of other self-serving made up phony bullshite. No thanks.


Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46384 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:49 pm to
In other words he sings southern gothic music with a somber melody
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