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re: Is Tennessee going to be that good?
Posted on 5/18/16 at 6:19 am to djsdawg
Posted on 5/18/16 at 6:19 am to djsdawg
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Already made a post on this and you ignored it, so here it is............
Here is some no cherry picking analysis:
Winning % / rank 97-00: 72.9% / 12th
Winning % / rank 06-15: 71.2% / 12th
+ Zero sec championships and a ton of underachievement.
Winning %???Is that all you got?Because they played the EXACT same schedule every year and a victory vs Utah State is the EXACT same thing as beating the 5th ranked team in the country and losing to GT is the EXACT same thing as losing to the NC in the SECCG.
Jesus you're delusional.I ALREADY pointed out WHO JD beat and who he didn't beat.
JD beat ONE top 10 team in 5 years and racked up victories vs cupcakes and bottom tier SEC teams.So
STFU with winning % comparisons.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 6:23 am
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 6:47 pm to RD Dawg
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Winning %???Is that all you got?
While overall winning % is a very strong comparison, its not all I got as I included "+ Zero sec championships and a ton of underachievement. "
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Because they played the EXACT same schedule every year
This point of yours contradicts your "records vs UT, UF, and GTU" point. No, we didnt play the same schedule every year, which means we also didnt play the same UF, UT, and GTU teams every year.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 6:53 pm to RD Dawg
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.I ALREADY pointed out WHO JD beat and who he didn't beat. JD beat ONE top 10 team in 5 years and racked up victories vs cupcakes and bottom tier SEC teams.So
STFU with winning % comparisons.
Lets see who both beat by comparing their winning %'s vs top 25 and top 10 teams:
Top 10:
97-00: 1-6 (14%)
06-15: (3-16 (15%)
Top 25:
97-00: 7-12 (36%)
06-15: 16-29 (35%)
Looks like both struggled vs the better teams and racked up wins vs the weaker teams. Are you gonna use ignorance and ignore this too?
Posted on 5/18/16 at 7:22 pm to djsdawg
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 7:34 pm to djsdawg
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Lets see who both beat by comparing their winning %'s vs top 25 and top 10 teams:
Top 10:
97-00: 1-6 (14%)
06-15: (3-16 (15%)
Top 25:
97-00: 7-12 (36%)
06-15: 16-29 (35%)
Looks like both struggled vs the better teams and racked up wins vs the weaker teams. Are you gonna use ignorance and ignore this too?
You are such a little bitch...I see now you moved the yeard stick ONCE AGAIN to include TOP 25 teams. WGAS?
So you conceded your ignorance on the 1st 5 vs 1 st 5 arguement,now you move the yardstick once again to freakin include victories over teams ranked 21-25...unbelievable,
OK,FOR THE FOURTH frickING TIME,WHY DIDN'T JD
GET ANY SUBSTANTIAL JOB OFFERS AFTER WE CANNED HIN AND IT TOOK CMR ALL OF ONE MONTH TO GET A TOP 20 JOB OFFER?
Are you that much of a little gutless prick by refusing to answer a question posted to you for the fourth time?
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 5/18/16 at 7:46 pm to RD Dawg
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You are such a little bitch...
Yet its you who hasnt been man enough to admit how similar both coaches appear on these time periods when comparing 5 commonly used comparisons:
1. SEC titles
2. Consistent underachieving
3. Overall winning %
4. Top 10 winning %
5. Top 25 winning %
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So you conceded your ignorance on the 1st 5 vs 1 st 5 arguement
I never made an argument about 5 vs 5. My argument was about the difference in quality of UF, UT, and GTU over 4 year periods, and the facts proved you wrong once again.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 5/18/16 at 7:56 pm to RD Dawg
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OK,FOR THE FOURTH frickING TIME,WHY DIDN'T JD
GET ANY SUBSTANTIAL JOB OFFERS AFTER WE CANNED HIN AND IT TOOK CMR ALL OF ONE MONTH TO GET A TOP 20 JOB OFFER?
Are you that much of a little gutless prick by refusing to answer a question posted to you for the fourth time?
I answered this question when you asked last week, but it was the "overall winning %" post that you ignored because you didnt want to acknowledge a meaningful fact that proved you wrong. Here it is again:
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Richt's alma mater status played a big role in his hiring. For donnan, Nc st wasnt hiring in 2001. Once again, timing matters.
Here is an excerpt from an AJC article from 2015:
" And he had numerous opportunities both before and after he left Georgia. He turned down the opportunity to leave UGA for North Carolina and Oklahoma while he was still coaching and passed on the chance to coach in the NFL and at some other college stops after he was dismissed.
But Donnan had three years remaining on his contract when he was fired. And by then, he and his wife Mary had grown quite enamored with Athens.
“My plan was to get back into coaching,” Donnan said. “I felt like, and my wife did, too, to move just to move wasn’t the answer. We liked living here; we’ve got a lot of friends here. So we were just trying to get our feet on the ground for that next year. It wasn’t as uncomfortable for me as it might have been for other people.”
Donnan found opportunities right away with ESPN doing analysis and commentary. He was eventually offered some other opportunities to coach.
“After a couple of years I just started the think I enjoyed going to see my grandchildren play and playing golf and tennis. So I figured I’d just stay in TV and do ESPN stuff.”
Posted on 5/18/16 at 7:58 pm to djsdawg
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I never made an argument about 5 vs 5. My argument was about the difference in quality of UF, UT, and GTU over 4 year periods, and the facts proved you wrong once again.
What facts?I know its completely incomprehensible for you to understand but one of the MAJOR reason for GT's and UT's strength in this period is because they not only beat us on the field but they beat us on the recruiting trail. Do you not understand that part of the reason that they were better is because we were substandard?
There is absolutely not ONE reason GT should EVER beat UGA 3 years in a row but go ahead and make up any delusional reason as to why that happened.
ONCE AGAIN,FOR THE FIFTH frickING TIME,WHY DIDN'T JD RECEIVE ONE SUBSTANTIAL JOB OFFER AFTER WE CANNED HIM AND WHY DID CMR RECEIVE A TOP 20 OFFER WITHIN A MONTH?
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:07 pm to RD Dawg
You two should just frick and get on with things. Jesus...
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:31 pm to RD Dawg
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What facts?
The facts the prove the difference in the shape of GTU, UT and UF of 2002-2005 and 1997-2000. Lets compare overall winning % and rank:
97-00: UT 6th, UF 8th, GTU 14th
02-05: UT 25th, UF 28th, GTU 52nd
Thats an average of 9.33 vs 35, which is a HUGE difference in quality.
Your reasoning as to why this is the case doesnt cut it very well for 2 reasons:
1. UGA recruited very well under Donnan. Doesnt mean the others cant also recruit very well. In fact, GTu had more lax recruiting standards in the 90's than they had soon after.
2. Beating UGA on the field isnt gonna make a huge difference in overall winning %.
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There is absolutely not ONE reason GT should EVER beat UGA 3 years in a row and make up any delusional reason
Oh boy, did you miss the 1999 game? Everyone but you knows that no instant replay played a big role in that outcome, and its NOT delusional to acknowledge that.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 9:22 pm to fibonaccisquared
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You two should just frick and get on with things. Jesus...
Too late, its an ongoing public fricking. Its always fun to see the squirm when the facts come out that prove that Richt 06-15 was much closer to Donnan than they can accept.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 7:06 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 1:03 pm to Cobb Dawg
Screw the Sister Kissers, we will either beat them or give them a game of their lives. They have a lot of front end 1st string talent. They are not deep enough to run away with an SEC or a far fetched National Title. They need to stop butt chugging and come to reality. I think that they lose to UGA, Bama and maybe SCjr. Ole Bootch has a 3 game winning streak on the Cocks and that could be the big win of the Muschump era. I think either UF or SCjr takes them out. I'm calling 3 losses.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 3:46 pm to Remington Dawg
To answer the OP, yes we're going to be that good. Vegas doesn't sunshine pump and their bullish attitude towards the Vols says quite a bit.
That said, UGA is not an afterthought for Vol fans and I'm not sure where that perception is coming from. I think UGA will challenge us far more than UF. The roster is there and Kirby is inheriting a turnkey operation with the only real questions being QB inexperience and OL. I mention your oline only because they didn't look so hot in the spring game but at the same time your OL coach, Sam Pittman, is a damn fine OL coach who I fully expect to have a much better line worked out by the time we play.
That said, UGA is not an afterthought for Vol fans and I'm not sure where that perception is coming from. I think UGA will challenge us far more than UF. The roster is there and Kirby is inheriting a turnkey operation with the only real questions being QB inexperience and OL. I mention your oline only because they didn't look so hot in the spring game but at the same time your OL coach, Sam Pittman, is a damn fine OL coach who I fully expect to have a much better line worked out by the time we play.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:46 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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They'll be good. They have some great talent but they'll need to overcome their version of Richt.
Hopefully they will have to....we will know after game one where we are....if we are as flat as the beer at a GOP fundraiser we didn't upgrade with Smart....still had to be done but if we aren't up for that game I may not watch another one all season (bullshite....I will watch 'em all LOL).
On the other hand...come out the gate with hair on fire and ears pinned back and spank the heels in serious, like 3 TD fashion...and the SEC might want to take notice that Mark Richt is now in Coral Gables and AThens might be a little bit tough....
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:07 pm to germandawg
Can't make any meaningful conclusions based on game one of a tenure.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 6:35 am to djsdawg
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Can't make any meaningful conclusions based on game one of a tenure.
No but the best effort is going to be season one....and the best effort of that season is going to be game one...I don't mean the best outcome I mean the hardest work. You are always going to get the best an employee has in the beginnning....they may produce more later as they grow comfortable and learn the system BUT the best, most honest effort is always going to be early on....
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:25 am to germandawg
"When you first hire'em, they run everywhere they go. Four months later, they are walking."
- Former boss
- Former boss
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:03 pm to germandawg
In sports, The second half of year 1 could very well lead to harder work being done than game 1 of season 1.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:59 pm to Prof
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To answer the OP, yes we're going to be that good. Vegas doesn't sunshine pump and their bullish attitude towards the Vols says quite a bit.
Yes and No-
I think the Vols are going to be very good, in fact they need to be good or else they have a serious coaching problem on their hands because to not be very good this year with all of the upper class talent on that team would be a horrible look for the program. That said, I anticipate them to have a very solid season and they are definitely the team to beat in the East. They will have a chance to win every single game on their schedule, but outside of a few cupcakes I don't think any wins are guaranteed, especially on the front end of that schedule.
Regarding the Vegas sunshine pumping- see 2015 Auburn.
There is a good shot they finish 1st in the East, but it wouldn't be shocking to see them finish in 3rd.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 3:49 pm to Prof
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Is Tennessee going to be that good?
To answer the OP, yes we're going to be that good. Vegas doesn't sunshine pump and their bullish attitude towards the Vols says quite a bit.
That said, UGA is not an afterthought for Vol fans and I'm not sure where that perception is coming from. I think UGA will challenge us far more than UF. The roster is there and Kirby is inheriting a turnkey operation with the only real questions being QB inexperience and OL. I mention your oline only because they didn't look so hot in the spring game but at the same time your OL coach, Sam Pittman, is a damn fine OL coach who I fully expect to have a much better line worked out by the time we play.
Two words; Oregon Ducks.
And I got the UGA afterthought from VolNation and from a few folks I know who are Vol fans. Historically UT fans have been the most unrealistic fan base in the country. I think this season is a make or break one for CBJ, fair or not. Anything shy of 10 wins will put him on the hot seat with Vol fans. And, if the recruiting gurus are correct, UT talent drops off a good bit after '16 in comparison to Bama, UGA, etc.
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