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FSU has no plans to release Matthew Thomas
Posted on 5/14/13 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 5/14/13 at 1:01 pm
quote:Kipp Adams retweeted this. Sucks because I was hoping FSU would go with the better PR move and release him but just block him from ACC schools and in-state rivalries.
Ira Schoffel
@IraSchoffel: If Thomas ultimately decides he just will not honor Letter of Intent, FSU has no plans to release him. They are committed to LOI process.
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Posted on 5/14/13 at 1:09 pm to CBizWRECKIN
So, thats only for one year right? Why just not enroll and then sign another LOI next year with UGA? I clearly do not know how this works.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 1:25 pm to CBizWRECKIN
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hoping FSU would go with the better PR move
Me too, but then every recruit could start that. No doubt a recruit would ask us at some point if this ever happened.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 1:51 pm to DawgCountry
exactly. I wouldn't really call it a good PR move anyway. this kid, no matter the situation, signed a contract. if his mom pressured him into any other contract it'd likely be the same situation. and as DawgCountry just said, it sets a dangerous precedent. i'd be damned if i'd want UGA to let a kid walk if he had just signed only to change his mind afterward because him and his family don't understand contracts.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:33 pm to Damn Good Dawg
So what happens if he just doesn't show up?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:43 pm to VoxDawg
If he doesn't show up he has to sit a year before being eligible to play. Just like if he left school during the year and transferred to another FBS school.
If FSU releases him I think it sets a bad precedent. Make him sit in school for his freshman year then let him go.
I initially was of the opinion that FSU should give him a walk, but after thinking about it for a while I changed my mind.
If FSU releases him I think it sets a bad precedent. Make him sit in school for his freshman year then let him go.
I initially was of the opinion that FSU should give him a walk, but after thinking about it for a while I changed my mind.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:50 pm to CBizWRECKIN
If there is a kid withing my program that doesn't want to be a part of it, regardless of talent, I don't want him there. It's either a wasted scholarship or a guy that you're not gonna get his full potential maybe because he's just not 100% invested in the program. If the kid doesn't wanna be there you gotta let him go.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:51 pm to AlaCowboy
He could do the Cam Newton thing and go JUCO for a year....
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:57 pm to ConwayGamecock
Can FSU pull his scholly if he decided to sit out? Then he would have to pay is own way for a year until he transfers...
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:26 pm to DawgCountry
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Can FSU pull his scholly if he decided to sit out? Then he would have to pay is own way for a year until he transfers...
No...they are in contract. Also, he will have 4 years to play 4.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:27 pm to sowega dawg
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If there is a kid withing my program that doesn't want to be a part of it, regardless of talent, I don't want him there. It's either a wasted scholarship or a guy that you're not gonna get his full potential maybe because he's just not 100% invested in the program. If the kid doesn't wanna be there you gotta let him go.
well, unless FSU is hurting for scholarship room or has a walk on who they really want to put on scholarship they have nothing to lose. like it has already been said, it sets a bad precedent to just let a kid walk. make him sit out a year, he doesn't have to be on the team, but make him sit out the year and then he can do whatever he wants. thing is, this is matthew thomas' problem, not florida state's. well, i mean it is an FSU problem now, but by making him sit out the year they show kids that they better be committed if they sign their LOI or they'll be left in purgatory like matthew thomas will be for the next year.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 8:42 pm to Damn Good Dawg
If it were me I'd walk in Old Jimbo's office and tell him that I was going to swear that he gave me 50,000.00 dollars to sign with FSU and I would do this just to show him how serious I was about not wanting to play for him or be there. Then I would tell him that is just the beginning that if there is any loose carpet in the weight room or wet spots on the floor he damn sure better make sure he finds them before I do or I would be falling and suing the hell out of FSU for negligence. Just kidding but if this kid wants to cause a stink he damn sure can find a way to do it. The best thing to do would have just been let him go. 99.9% of these kids will go where they sign so the guys who say that it sets a bad precedent are wrong. Jmo
Posted on 5/14/13 at 8:46 pm to GurleyManandProud020
I wouldn't release him.
There's no reason to.
He wants to go elsewhere? He had a chance to send a LOI elsewhere.
it's called being responsible. now he gets to be responsible for his actions that were 100% within his control.
There's no reason to.
He wants to go elsewhere? He had a chance to send a LOI elsewhere.
it's called being responsible. now he gets to be responsible for his actions that were 100% within his control.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:01 pm to meansonny
So all of you guys who are saying you wouldn't release him, because he signed a letter of intent and that is the rule. Then you guys are ok with Kolton Houston not being allowed to play until his steroid levels drop below 2.5. The argument for responsibility is the same here. Make sure you know the doctor you go to knows the rules. Well Kolton didn't do that and it was his responsibility. It works both ways guys you can't cry about it one way and then be ok with it the other. Not trying to say my opinion is right, but I won't stand on one side of the argument in one case and the other side in another case.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:22 pm to GurleyManandProud020
quote:good cause its not
. Not trying to say my opinion is right,
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:27 pm to GurleyManandProud020
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It works both ways guys you can't cry about it one way and then be ok with it the other
Link to where I've been crying for Kolton.
There's a difference in the 2 situations, though.
Kolton's fate rests in the hands of the NCAA.
Thomas' fate is in the hands of his chosen university.
Not the same scenario.
And for what it's worth, I've never cried for Kolton. I've only promoted the fact that he can sue the NCAA after his eligibility is up.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:41 pm to meansonny
Wasn't talking about you specifically and if you took it that way I humbly apologize. Just talking in general terms about Georgia fans complaining (crying was not a term I should have used) about Kolton not being allowed to play and I am one of those fans. And yes I know the NCAA and Florida State are two separate entities, but if we are talking about setting a precedent by releasing Mathew from his letter of intent are we not talking about setting a precedent by allowing Kolton to play. The other term we are talking about is responsibility which still should be applied to both situations. If Mathew is responsible for his loi then Kolton is responsible for choosing the right doctor and making him aware that hey I might be playing college football don't do anything to jeopardize that. jmo.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 10:17 pm to CBizWRECKIN
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FSU has no plans to release Matthew Thomas
Can't really blame them. The kid signed a contract and should stick to it or enroll elsewhere and lose a year of eligibility.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 10:23 pm to davesdawgs
If FSU does not release him and he still transfers, he can be subject to a two year penalty.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:01 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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exactly. I wouldn't really call it a good PR move anyway. this kid, no matter the situation, signed a contract. if his mom pressured him into any other contract it'd likely be the same situation. and as DawgCountry just said, it sets a dangerous precedent. i'd be damned if i'd want UGA to let a kid walk if he had just signed only to change his mind afterward because him and his family don't understand contracts.
If we're assuming that "amateur athletics" is amateur and that the student athlete process is about academics and the development of the "STUDENT" athlete than what's exactly dangerous about a kid wanting to go to the school that's best for such development? FSU and like minded individuals are approaching this situation from a contractual stand point. You guys are cave men from an intellectual stand point. Just admit its about the money this kid will potentially make the school. If its not than let him go to to whatever college he damn well pleases. (the same freedom any other college kid enjoys). If its about the money, pay him the money he potentially brings in the university or take a hike. I could care less if he ends up at UGA but can't stand the hypocrisy of this situation.
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