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Fox returning as MBB coach next year
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:54 am
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:54 am
Per Mcgarity
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“In response to the report by Yahoo Sports, we are NOT in the process of exploring our options to replace Mark Fox," McGarity said in the statement We look forward to Mark leading our program next year and all of our efforts are centered on postseason play. It’s unfortunate we need to respond at this time, but it was necessary to quiet these unfounded rumors.”
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 7:55 am
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:04 am to tylerdurden24
A statement like that usually means the coach will be fired within 10 days.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:08 am to tylerdurden24
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all of our efforts are centered on postseason play
NIT is his perceived level of excellence in basketball
Such a shame coming from an AD that witnessed multiple national titles while he was employed in Gainesville.
The Georgia way is an embarrassment and I've given up hope on our athletics since this arse took office. No wonder our brand is diminishing before our very own eyes.
We're turning into Indiana, except without basketball.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 8:12 am
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:23 am to PNW
If you've been following Blutarsky's rants (and subsequently those of Emerson and Bill King in the AJC), on field performance isn't the only thing that sucks. Off the field issues (tailgating, concessions, traffic flow, bathrooms, etc) all suck and there's no indication that anyone with the power to fix those issues will do so. To be fair, I have a hard tim blaming the latter entirely on mcgarity though. Those things sucked before he got here; this is a UGA problem
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:45 am to PNW
This is disappointing news. Would love to give someone else a shot at running our basketball program. 8 years and not a single NCAA tournament win...
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:38 am to tylerdurden24
his job will certainly be on the line next year. Probably tourney or get fired. I'm ok with that. I really like fox and the stability he has brought us. First coach in uga history to win 20 games three years in a row, and we will likely hit 4 here shortly.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:24 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Completely agree with everything you said. Tourney or move on next year and that's okay.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:39 pm to tylerdurden24
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this is a UGA problem
So, if enough boosters and all screamed about it, it wouldn't get fixed? Or are those not important enough to warrant the powers' attention?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:50 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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First coach in uga history to win 20 games three years in a row, and we will likely hit 4 here shortly.
This is analogous to Richt's 10 win seasons. In both cases, Richt and Fox, they were better than what we had before. We gave Richt 15 seasons so I would not be surprised to see Fox get a lot more than 8 seasons.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:52 pm to Spaceman Spiff
Not sure enough big $ boosters care.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:55 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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First coach in uga history to win 20 games three years in a row,
I know we've gone around on this, but I just don't think "20 win seasons" mean what they used to. With in-season tourneys (extra games basically) plus championship weekends, the 20 win luster has kinda faded IMO. Here is Fox's winning percentage in each of those years:
2013: 59%
2014: 64%
2015: 59%
To put it another way, that's averaging 7-8 wins per year in football with a 12 game regular season plus a bowl game. Not exactly much to crow about.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:42 pm to GurleyGirl
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This is analogous to Richt's 10 win seasons. In both cases, Richt and Fox, they were better than what we had before. We gave Richt 15 seasons so I would not be surprised to see Fox get a lot more than 8 seasons.
Not that I care to rehash the Fox argument, but Richt was in charge of a far, far better program and had far more to work with in talent, resources and fan support than Fox does. It's not a fair comparison at all. Fox took over a dumpster fire and a program that has never been relevant aside from a few good years here and there.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:54 pm to HTDawg
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program that has never been relevant aside from a few good years here and there.
this describes the last 8 years...so why should we expect any more than this from Fox?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:56 pm to HTDawg
Granted our fball and bball programs aren't even in the same stratosphere, but I do think there are some solid parallels to the here and now.
Goff and Harrick both left us in the gutter. Fleeting success, albeit brief, but left us in extremely poor shape (goff with many losses and zero talent, harrick with national disgrace and a depleted roster) when they left.
Donnan and Felton were the "ship-righters". If they did nothing else, they were at least expected to dig us out of the hole, which they both did. Donnan refilled the roster, won about 8 or 9 games a year, and was perfect in bowl games. Felton cleaned up our image, brought in some high profile recruits, and actually lucked into an SEC title and a tourney bid.
Richt took what donnan left him and capitlized on it in a big way. He stayed longer than he probably should have and was in serious decline towards the end, but he took the good things from his predesessor and took us to that "next level". Likewise, Fox has done the same after Felton. He's slowly built a "better" roster, runs a squeaky clean program, has gotten a few studs in his time, and has made the tourney.
The issue with both richt and fox is that the time came (or has come, in fox's case) where the writing is on the wall that they've simply taken us as far as we could go. AFter 2012 Richt jsut never really put us in contention to win anythign of sigfniciance. That doesn't change what he did early on, but it was time. Fox has done a world of good things for the program, but after 8 years it's crystal clear that his ceiling is making the tounrey (sparingly) and not winning once we get there.
To think we can do better than fox isn't a slap in the face to the man, it's just evident that we've gone as far as he can possibly take us.
Goff and Harrick both left us in the gutter. Fleeting success, albeit brief, but left us in extremely poor shape (goff with many losses and zero talent, harrick with national disgrace and a depleted roster) when they left.
Donnan and Felton were the "ship-righters". If they did nothing else, they were at least expected to dig us out of the hole, which they both did. Donnan refilled the roster, won about 8 or 9 games a year, and was perfect in bowl games. Felton cleaned up our image, brought in some high profile recruits, and actually lucked into an SEC title and a tourney bid.
Richt took what donnan left him and capitlized on it in a big way. He stayed longer than he probably should have and was in serious decline towards the end, but he took the good things from his predesessor and took us to that "next level". Likewise, Fox has done the same after Felton. He's slowly built a "better" roster, runs a squeaky clean program, has gotten a few studs in his time, and has made the tourney.
The issue with both richt and fox is that the time came (or has come, in fox's case) where the writing is on the wall that they've simply taken us as far as we could go. AFter 2012 Richt jsut never really put us in contention to win anythign of sigfniciance. That doesn't change what he did early on, but it was time. Fox has done a world of good things for the program, but after 8 years it's crystal clear that his ceiling is making the tounrey (sparingly) and not winning once we get there.
To think we can do better than fox isn't a slap in the face to the man, it's just evident that we've gone as far as he can possibly take us.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:15 pm to Spaceman Spiff
Small money boosters are and have been screaming about it for some time now. Big money boosters don't deal with it and don't care and therefore neither do the higher ups
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:12 pm to DawgCountry
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this describes the last 8 years...so why should we expect any more than this from Fox?
Sorry, you can say what you want about Fox, but you can't compare the last 8 years to pretty much any 8 year run in UGA basketball history. It is a healthier program than it has ever been barring a few years under Tubby and when we had Nique... you can certainly argue that we should be better. With our school size, resources, and proximity to elite talent, we should be a lot better.
Bottom line, Fox has us in a better spot than we have ever been, but he does not have us where we have the potential to be. At that point, you can argue the commitment of the AA vs the Success of the HC... teams like Witchata State make this a harder pill to swallow.
I don't know the answer. I appreciate what Fox has done for the program though.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:49 pm to Peter Buck
In relation to what I quoted it's accurate. We are not a relevant program. Sorry
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:56 pm to DawgCountry
Watching some of the bigger games on TV this season, it sure seems like the announcers had us pegged as being on the cusp of something special. Vitale sure did. Other than a few years in the 80s, and a few under Tubby, we just didn't get those kind of comments. Harrick had us close to that as well, but that backfired... and frankly, he had a lot of slime on him before he got here and the National folks knew it..
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:25 pm to HTDawg
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Richt was in charge of a far, far better program and had far more to work with in talent, resources and fan supp
CMR had far more FAN support but administration support was just as shitty.From a lack of an IPF to hiring support staff to our "pledge" not to oversign. No other SEC big 6 program had to deal with the same bullshite.
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