re: Fire Mark Fox

I mean the training facility is there for all olympic sports, gymnastics, women's basketball, and men's basketball. No reason not to keep using it day-to-day it's just that you play your games downtown in a bigger, better arena.

As for,

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I would think they wouldn't waste millions upgrading Stegeman.

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Stegeman needs upgrading regardless of whether men's basketball is there or not. No reason in this day and age that it should look and feel like a 53 year old dump

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did you come up with that?

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ETA: I didn't relize just how spot on I was

I agree. Our standard shouldnt be based off what a former coach did. Should we be Kansas and Duke? Hell no, but I think we could be Tennessee during the Bruce Pearl years, or hell, think big. Florida was a football school 20 years ago, and they hired Billy Donavan, and even though he is gone, they are still a force in the SEC.

We shouldnt settle for mediocrity, just because we've never seen mediocrity before out of the program.

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No reason in this day and age that it should look and feel like a 53 year old dump

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I actually think it looks good now. The center scoreboard will make it look that much better. I just don't think a new arena is going to happen. You're looking at 100 million dollars. If it happens, it is at least 8-10 years down the road at the earliest.

20 win seasons isn't mediocrity. I think we have a young team and next year Juwuan should produce more offensively, Jordan Harris should be averaging around 12 a game. Turtle should be producing more, Ogbeide should continue to improve as well as Edwards. Of course Maten will produce a lot and may have more efficiency with an improved supporting cast.

The future looks bright as Fox is recruiting a higher level. If this group was and older class I'd say make it or break it now but we have three guys with more than a full year of experience. Everybody else is relatively inexperienced and is still developing.

Not winning a dance game is mediocrity. You seem to be fooled by weak Sec wins, year after year. I don't know how you are how you are

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we are actually competitive against most good teams now, above .500 in league play for 3 years straight, we actually get to play in a post-season tournament, etc

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People just seem to think we did this for the 10 year period of time when we didn't. And now we've done it for 3 years so it's all of a sudden time to be in the sweet 16 every year.

I'm pretty tired of everyone saying the same shite every game, especially after a game that people are completely misinterpreting.

"Same shite every year".....ummmmmm have any of you watched us play at Florida for the last 15 years? It went slightly differently today to say the least

I'm no basketball fan but I'm getting deja vu's all over again from this thread.

That will be a long post but I will explain my thoughts when I have more time tonight. I just think you have to look at the current levels of production on this team and remember that Mark Fox is really good at player development. That's probably his greatest strength as a coach and he hire Jonas Hayes and Yasir Rosemind to help improve recruiting which is improving based on last year and the recruits signed already for next year.

Looking at the role of Jordan Harris and the role of Tyree Crump, there are strong similarities to Kenny Gaines and Charles Mann as freshman. Harris looks to be a better athlete that Charles Mann and looks to shoot it better while Crump looks further behind than Gaines as a freshman. It his ability to shoot is well documented.

Projecting the 2017-2018 roster

PG
Turtle Jackson - longer, bigger, taller defender than JJ and will not give near the offensive production but is a good manager should have an improved scoring.

Tyree Crump - should have a clue about how to defend and play offense. Will stretch the defense with his ability shoot.

SG
Jordan Harris - should be a lot stronger physically and should have a more consistent jump shot. It's very possible that he averages around 12 points per game. IMO he is a poor mans KCP with less potential.

Tyree Crump/Juwan Parker also playing this role

SF
Juwan Parker - his jump shot is finally reaching its potential and he is healthy. Could possibly average 12-15 next if his Jump shot improves.

Pape Diatta - good player off of the bench. Should develop a lot seeing how it is his first year in the SEC.

Etonian Woolridge - shows flashes and maybe he will develop into a good guy off the bench.

PF
Yante Maten - Yante is Yante. Expect 15-20 per game but he really needs to improve defensively. He isn't bad but the whole team needs more consistent play in that area.

Rayshaun Hammonds - top 50 recruit and college coaches ran about him. One coach is quoted as saying they couldnt believe he wasn't picked up by Kentucky or Duke. Probably won't play a lot unless Yante is in foul trouble so don't expect a lot out of him but he is a building block for the future at bare minimum.

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Derek Ogbeide - solid defender who is developing a really nice hook shot. Great rebounder.

Mike Edwards - Really good athlete but for whatever reason doesn't produce as much as he's capable of then again he only gets 19 mins per game usually. His offensive game isn't much to write about but he if he could develop a 15 foot jump shot like his free throw shooting he could become a much greater weapon.

Nic Claxton - this guy could be a complete miss in recruiting but...he is supposedly 6'11 and if that's true he could add value defensively as a shot blocker and rebounder because of his length. They say he has a good jump shot and can shoot from anywhere on the floor but let's wait and see until he plays college ball.

There are two more recruits they are hoping to sign and everybody knows who they are. Don't expect them to contribute much next year. Of the two the one that would contribute would be a Guard that we are recruiting.