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Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:44 pm
Top ranked Center, Alex Mack is officially a Falcon. 5 years at $9.5m/yr.
Even after signing Mack, we're still about $25M under the cap. And will likely free up another $2M if we cut Hester, which seems inevitable.
We only have 4 draft picks that will hit the top-51 contracts that count towards the cap, and they will need about $5M. So accounting for draft picks, we still have at least $20M left for FA signings.
Other FA's on the radar:
RG Evan Mathis
WR Rishard Matthews
WR Mohamed Sanu
LB Danny Trevathian
CB Brandon Boykin
FS Reggie Nelson
Even after signing Mack, we're still about $25M under the cap. And will likely free up another $2M if we cut Hester, which seems inevitable.
We only have 4 draft picks that will hit the top-51 contracts that count towards the cap, and they will need about $5M. So accounting for draft picks, we still have at least $20M left for FA signings.
Other FA's on the radar:
RG Evan Mathis
WR Rishard Matthews
WR Mohamed Sanu
LB Danny Trevathian
CB Brandon Boykin
FS Reggie Nelson
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 1:50 pm
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:06 pm to BeefDawg
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BeefDawg
Alex Mack is a good pickup considering our center problems the last few years. Just need to fix the rest of the line and we still need a better pass rush.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:23 pm to BeefDawg
Apparently we have offered Sanu 7m. Hope it's not true
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:45 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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Just need to fix the rest of the line
Mack does that. Allows Person to slide over to guard and put LeVitre on the bench. Person is a good blocker, he just had a tendency to snap the ball 20 feet over Ryan's head.
Also, yes please for Trevathan. And maybe take a shot at Olivier Vernon. Dolphins took the transition tag off of him today.
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 3/9/16 at 3:07 pm to VADawg
We're not going to pay LeVitre $5m to sit on the bench. He actually blocked well. His problem was ridiculous penalties.
I think they give LeVitre another shot at LG and see if having Mack next to him calms down his penalties. Then either draft a RG or see what Person can do there.
I think they give LeVitre another shot at LG and see if having Mack next to him calms down his penalties. Then either draft a RG or see what Person can do there.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 3:32 pm to BeefDawg
Better idea actually would be to put James Stone on the bench. Dude was awful last year
Posted on 3/9/16 at 3:48 pm to VADawg
Stone was on the bench.
LeVitre played LG, Person played C, and Chester played RG.
LeVitre played LG, Person played C, and Chester played RG.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 3:50 pm to BeefDawg
Falcons sign Matt Schabb as backup QB.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:31 pm to VADawg
Veronon just signed with the Giants for a billion dollars (actually the largest contract ever for a DE, I believe)
Trevathan is a done deal going to the Bears, so cross those guys off the wish list.
I think that Mack makes the line infinitely better, aside from the obvious improvement in snapping the ball. Makes all the calls, will help everyone figure out their assignments, won't get pushed all the way back into Matt's face, etc. Had to overpay for him. I'd imagine we go after, another guard (JR Sweezy has been mentioned) in free agency, but either Chester or Levitre still starts, and we draft a guard in the 3rd or 4th, to either compete for the spot occupied by those two, or be groomed.
Jerrell Freeman (ILB from the Colts) has been rumored, hopefully that's the next step after Trevathan went to Chicago.
Brandon Boykin is said to be someone we're seriously interested in...love that, just don't know if he's a number two corner, I'd think he's best as a nickle, but Robert Alford is trash, so I want him nowhere near the 2nd corner spot.
Paying so much for Sanu scares me, seems desperate, to me. Everyone else that we would be interested, I'd imagine we wait on to make sure the price goes down after the initial rush and piles of money thrown at players.
I think the first rounder has to go to the best player available according to their board at either LB or DE. So either Darron Lee or Reggie Ragland (pass on other LB's) or best DE from the lot available (Ogbah, Dodd, Lawson, Bullard, or Reed.) I'm hoping for Ogbah...thoughts from anyone else?
Trevathan is a done deal going to the Bears, so cross those guys off the wish list.
I think that Mack makes the line infinitely better, aside from the obvious improvement in snapping the ball. Makes all the calls, will help everyone figure out their assignments, won't get pushed all the way back into Matt's face, etc. Had to overpay for him. I'd imagine we go after, another guard (JR Sweezy has been mentioned) in free agency, but either Chester or Levitre still starts, and we draft a guard in the 3rd or 4th, to either compete for the spot occupied by those two, or be groomed.
Jerrell Freeman (ILB from the Colts) has been rumored, hopefully that's the next step after Trevathan went to Chicago.
Brandon Boykin is said to be someone we're seriously interested in...love that, just don't know if he's a number two corner, I'd think he's best as a nickle, but Robert Alford is trash, so I want him nowhere near the 2nd corner spot.
Paying so much for Sanu scares me, seems desperate, to me. Everyone else that we would be interested, I'd imagine we wait on to make sure the price goes down after the initial rush and piles of money thrown at players.
I think the first rounder has to go to the best player available according to their board at either LB or DE. So either Darron Lee or Reggie Ragland (pass on other LB's) or best DE from the lot available (Ogbah, Dodd, Lawson, Bullard, or Reed.) I'm hoping for Ogbah...thoughts from anyone else?
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:56 pm to DirtyDAWG14
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Jerrell Freeman (ILB from the Colts) has been rumored, hopefully that's the next step after Trevathan went to Chicago
Very underrated player and would be a solid pickup.
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Paying so much for Sanu scares me, seems desperate, to me. Everyone else that we would be interested, I'd imagine we wait on to make sure the price goes down after the initial rush and piles of money thrown at players.
He was also hurt a lot in Cincinnati. Don't need another one of those guys.
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Brandon Boykin is said to be someone we're seriously interested in...love that, just don't know if he's a number two corner, I'd think he's best as a nickle, but Robert Alford is trash, so I want him nowhere near the 2nd corner spot.
I think Quinn is hoping to develop Jalen Collins into that #2 corner. I almost forgot he was on the team he was heard from so little last year.
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I think the first rounder has to go to the best player available according to their board at either LB or DE. So either Darron Lee or Reggie Ragland (pass on other LB's) or best DE from the lot available (Ogbah, Dodd, Lawson, Bullard, or Reed.) I'm hoping for Ogbah...thoughts from anyone else?
It depends on what happens in the rest of free agency. As the roster currently stands, if Lee is there at 17, someone should be sprinting to the podium to hand in the card. If not, Ragland would be fine with me too. Linebacker (particularly inside) is the worst position on the team by a mile. Worrilow is not good at all and neither is Stupar.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 6:37 pm to VADawg
Jerrell Freeman is an ILB and an immediate big improvement over Worrilow. If we get Freeman, and it looks like we will from all reports, Ragland would no longer be on the draft radar.
Word is we've offered Sanu $30M over 5 years, which just sounds absurd to me to pay a 33 reception guy $6m/yr. That's dumb and I hope it's not accurate.
And I'm not sure how you're cracking on Alford. Trufant and Alford combined to be PFF's #1 CB tandem in the league. Combined, they held receivers to the lowest reception percentage of all CB tandems. Trufant was the #5 CB and Alford was something like #23. Alford had a rocky couple games at the beginning of 2015, but then he settled in and played really well.
Jalen Collins was lost until about week 12, and then he played really well in the last 3-4 games of the season at NCB. That's his spot. He may even play some Safety.
Boykin would come in to replace Hester on KR/PR and be a backup CB. Hester is due $3.8M and only $800k of dead money. He's gone any day now. Or maybe after June 1st.
We may go DT with our fist pick and go OLB with the 2nd. I could see us taking Robinson or Billings at #17 and Ogbah, Cravens, or Perry at #49.
Or maybe we do go OLB with the first if Darron Lee or Shilique Calhoun are there and then go SS Jayron Kearse at #49.
It depends on what we do at DT in FA. If we cut Tyson Jackson, which is a good possibility, although he is a ton of dead money, then I can see us going DT at #17. If not, then OLB then SS would be my guess.
Word is we've offered Sanu $30M over 5 years, which just sounds absurd to me to pay a 33 reception guy $6m/yr. That's dumb and I hope it's not accurate.
And I'm not sure how you're cracking on Alford. Trufant and Alford combined to be PFF's #1 CB tandem in the league. Combined, they held receivers to the lowest reception percentage of all CB tandems. Trufant was the #5 CB and Alford was something like #23. Alford had a rocky couple games at the beginning of 2015, but then he settled in and played really well.
Jalen Collins was lost until about week 12, and then he played really well in the last 3-4 games of the season at NCB. That's his spot. He may even play some Safety.
Boykin would come in to replace Hester on KR/PR and be a backup CB. Hester is due $3.8M and only $800k of dead money. He's gone any day now. Or maybe after June 1st.
We may go DT with our fist pick and go OLB with the 2nd. I could see us taking Robinson or Billings at #17 and Ogbah, Cravens, or Perry at #49.
Or maybe we do go OLB with the first if Darron Lee or Shilique Calhoun are there and then go SS Jayron Kearse at #49.
It depends on what we do at DT in FA. If we cut Tyson Jackson, which is a good possibility, although he is a ton of dead money, then I can see us going DT at #17. If not, then OLB then SS would be my guess.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 7:16 pm to BeefDawg
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Jalen Collins was lost until about week 12, and then he played really well in the last 3-4 games of the season at NCB. That's his spot. He may even play some Safety.
Really have to wonder if his first round selection was a bad reach. If his ceiling is nickle corner then that wasn't a great pic but thankfully ALford/Trufant are pretty good.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 7:49 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
The birds took Collins in the 2nd, of course Beasley was the 1st rd selection.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 8:26 pm to BeefDawg
Falcons sign Dolphins DE Derrick Shelby to 4 year $18M deal.
Shelby was a rotational guy behind Cameron Wake, but started the last 8 games of the season when Wake got hurt.
8 starts, 835 snaps, 37 tackles, 4 sacks, 16 QB hurries, 4 pass defenses, 2 forced fumbles, and 1 int/pick-6.
He's a very good run stopper and 16 hurries is a fair amount for only 8 starts. Not sure he's worth $4.25m per year though. Seems like just a replacement for Biermann.
I'm kind of confused with what we're doing with Brooks Reed, Shelby, and Schofield if we re-sign him. If these are our pass rushing options opposite Beasley, then I'm not at all excited about our pass rush potential yet again.
With the addition of Shelby, it seems like a pass rushing OLB in the draft is out. Might point even more towards us going after Darron Lee I guess.
Shelby was a rotational guy behind Cameron Wake, but started the last 8 games of the season when Wake got hurt.
8 starts, 835 snaps, 37 tackles, 4 sacks, 16 QB hurries, 4 pass defenses, 2 forced fumbles, and 1 int/pick-6.
He's a very good run stopper and 16 hurries is a fair amount for only 8 starts. Not sure he's worth $4.25m per year though. Seems like just a replacement for Biermann.
I'm kind of confused with what we're doing with Brooks Reed, Shelby, and Schofield if we re-sign him. If these are our pass rushing options opposite Beasley, then I'm not at all excited about our pass rush potential yet again.
With the addition of Shelby, it seems like a pass rushing OLB in the draft is out. Might point even more towards us going after Darron Lee I guess.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 9:39 pm to BeefDawg
Love the additions of Mack and Freeman. Instantly improve. I think if we add Boykin and maybe Reggie Nelson our secondary will be much much better. No way I would pay Sanu that much.... Would much rather spend the money on other positions and draft a receiver like Braxton Miller in the second round.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 9:48 pm to BeefDawg
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Sanu $30M over 5 years, which just sounds absurd to me to pay a 33 reception guy $6m/yr. That's dumb and I hope it's not accurate.
Ugh. That sounds like an absolutely horrendous offer. Sanu was 3rd string for Cincinnati. He's young and was previously a 2nd round pick, but just don't see him filling Roddy's shoes... even the dirty, busted soles, smelly version that was largely just used as a decoy last year.
Looks like Rishard Matthews just signed 3 year deal with Titans... didn't see contract numbers.
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Jerrell Freeman is an ILB and an immediate big improvement over Worrilow
100% agreement there. Only 29 years old as well.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 9:58 pm to BeefDawg
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And I'm not sure how you're cracking on Alford. Trufant and Alford combined to be PFF's #1 CB tandem in the league
I'm fine with Alford. I was quoting another post. Atlanta did a great job against opposing WRs last year. TEs and RBs just torched them though which is why I've been saying for awhile that we need a major speed upgrade at linebacker (everyone else is saying it too). Jerell Freeman just so happens to be really good in coverage.
There are people who won't want to read this at all, but if Atlanta gets Freeman and the Sanu rumors are bogus (if there's a god, they will be) they should seriously consider drafting Treadwell in the first round...
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 3/9/16 at 10:41 pm to VADawg
Won't happen. We literally don't have a single weakside OLB (WILL) on the roster at the moment.
Durant and Wheeler are gone. Stupar too.
Beasley plays weakside LEO. He's a pass rusher and covers the flats and plays behind the line of scrimmage. We currently have nobody to play that second layer WILL spot.
This is why either Darron Lee or Shilique Calhoun are likely our first pick.
Durant and Wheeler are gone. Stupar too.
Beasley plays weakside LEO. He's a pass rusher and covers the flats and plays behind the line of scrimmage. We currently have nobody to play that second layer WILL spot.
This is why either Darron Lee or Shilique Calhoun are likely our first pick.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 12:37 am to BeefDawg
Leonard Floyd.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:36 am to DahlonegaDawg
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The birds took Collins in the 2nd
That's right, he had a first round grade from all the analyst thought if I recall but everyone considered him a high ceiling pick because of his length.
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