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re: Dan Wolken: if Kirby doesn't win the East in 17, he's a clown
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:45 am to Peter Buck
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:45 am to Peter Buck
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I hear Kirby was named as a front runner for the ATM job when it opens next year. His agent must have a gut feeling.
You don't hear shite old man
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:51 am to Peter Buck
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named as a front runner for the ATM job when it opens next year. His agent must have a gut feeling.
So dumb
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:04 am to K9
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It's not about being good at football. The program just has so many more resources at its disposal than the basketball program. Thus higher expectations from me.
If you don't understand where the flaw in your logic is here, I'm not sure anyone can help you. "Resources at its disposal" is only relevant as far as the *relative* resources related to the rest of the conference/division/etc for that sport. Our basketball team is not at any real disadvantage compared to the rest of the league not named Kentucky and maybe Florida, other than at head coach. My comment wasn't indicating that we *shouldn't* win the East next year, simply that it's insane for you to hold Smart to this standard when you are not only accepting of Fox but complimentary of him, even though he's failing to produce at an even lower level after 8 seasons.
If we're going to give him passes because Maten is missing the tail end of the season, or whatever other bullshite excuse you want to make, then why is it incumbent on Smart to win the East or bust, when guys may get injured, teams that we play may be far better than expected, or any other number of potential situations that you aren't accounting for. I think we all *want* to win the East, but simply doing it or not doing it does not tell us whether Kirby is the guy or not. A 10-11 win regular season would be a good start, if that happens to mean that somehow another team represents the East, I'm not sure I have a problem with that, particularly if it looks like Smart and the staff are coaching at a higher level. It certainly does not indicate to me that he's a clown or that we have "the wrong guy". Just use some common sense...
I'd agree that our schedule is pretty soft, but honestly our basketball schedule was pretty soft this year, and we had "some of the greatest players in Georgia history" to paraphrase some of the commentary from the basketball thread (Maten and Frazier). In what way is it rational or logical to think that Fox is as good as we can do for a basketball coach but Smart is a failure in year 2 if he fails to win the division?
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:05 am to djsdawg
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So dumb
I've pretty much stopped reading his posts... they are generally of similar intellectual capacity.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:10 am to fibonaccisquared
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Our basketball team is not at any real disadvantage compared to the rest of the league not named Kentucky and maybe Florida,
I'm not some huge Fox fan, but this isn't true.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:15 am to Crowknowsbest
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I'm not some huge Fox fan, but this isn't true.
Facilities?
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:19 am to fibonaccisquared
This is coming from a guy who said our basketball schedule was soft...
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:20 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Facilities?
Probably the worst facilities in the conference, no real history to speak of, basically zero atmosphere, inconsistent fan support, and no tangible demonstration of a real desire to improve. Basketball players typically don't care about staying in state. They've played travel ball all over the country their whole lives.
I know people don't want to hear that, but that's the reality of the UGA job. That stuff is especially problematic with UGA located on the doorstep of the ACC.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:28 am to Crowknowsbest
I seem to recall that the AD state that Fox would have a long rope due to how broken the program was... what did Florida do differently to become elite in Basketball?
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:32 am to Peter Buck
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what did Florida do differently to become elite in Basketball?
Got lucky, at least imo. Billy Donovan is one of the best coaches in the game and decided to stay there for awhile. They had enough success at it that eventually it was a no-brainer to invest more in the program so that now they're better off even after Donovan is gone.
I don't think UGA can bet on that happening.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:39 am to BranchDawg
Damn right!
This is Georgia baby. We don't rebuild we reload. If CKS can't get us our third east championship in 12 years he's a clown and we need to fire his arse!
This is Georgia baby. We don't rebuild we reload. If CKS can't get us our third east championship in 12 years he's a clown and we need to fire his arse!
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:55 am to BranchDawg
Might have pulled back from the "clown" description, but if Kirby doesn't win the East with this talent vs the rest of the East, he's another CMR. And I don't think he wants that comparison.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:59 am to Crowknowsbest
I honestly don't recall. Did they have fan support ? Before? Did they build? Was this riding on the wave of the football success ?
Seems like they fill up the stands. I know Gainesville is a bigger city and HS basketball is big in Florida.
As far as the arcticle goes... if Smart doesn't win the East, it won't mean he is a Clown. I think it will hurt his momentum a bit. He can obviously recruit. It is hard to look at the East right now and not say UGA will be the most talented team. I want to see that he can coach up a team. Didn't see it last year. Excuses and all.
Seems like they fill up the stands. I know Gainesville is a bigger city and HS basketball is big in Florida.
As far as the arcticle goes... if Smart doesn't win the East, it won't mean he is a Clown. I think it will hurt his momentum a bit. He can obviously recruit. It is hard to look at the East right now and not say UGA will be the most talented team. I want to see that he can coach up a team. Didn't see it last year. Excuses and all.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:03 am to Peter Buck
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This is coming from a guy who said our basketball schedule was soft...
We have the 6th highest SOS in the SEC... Also known as middle of the road in the conference. In our 8 RPI 50 games, we have 1 win (Vandy at 47) and we have 7 losses (6 against UF, USC, UK with only 1 out of conference). I'm sorry if I don't give a lot of credit for in conference games contributing to SOS...
Our OOC games that contribute to our SOS in a meaningful way:
Kansas, Clemson, Marquette, UNC-A, and Furman (& Ga Tech, but again, we play them every year). (Wins in bold)
With that schedule, everyone seems to be ok with losses to Kansas and UK because they are significantly better programs. Most were a little upset that we didn't take at least one of the South Carolina or UF games, but even still they were credited as "quality losses" because we played them tight... Give me a break man. If you can't see the hypocrisy here, I don't know how to help you.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:06 am to fibonaccisquared
Our SOS is 20th in the country. How the frick is that soft again?
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:13 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Facilities?
The practice facility proves our facilities aren't as bad as some want to believe.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:14 am to Peter Buck
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seem to recall that the AD state that Fox would have a long rope due to how broken the program was...
8 years is a long rope.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:15 am to djsdawg
in regards to basketball, it most definitely is
we are investing in football....basketball not so much
we are investing in football....basketball not so much
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:20 am to SquatchDawg
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Damn right!
This is Georgia baby. We don't rebuild we reload. If CKS can't get us our third east championship in 12 years he's a clown and we need to fire his arse!
Woah...
This is scary
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:22 am to djsdawg
Agree, but I guess it depends on what the expectations were. The program is better and stable. There is some ebb and flow, but the trend is positive.
With the resources and location, I have always felt like UGA should be a lot better than they have been and where they are. We certainly have not gone balls deep in commitment from what I have ever seen. Maybe the $$ isn't there vs football.
With the resources and location, I have always felt like UGA should be a lot better than they have been and where they are. We certainly have not gone balls deep in commitment from what I have ever seen. Maybe the $$ isn't there vs football.
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