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re: CMR is the best coach we have ever had.... UGA needs to honor him

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Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:45 am to
fricking Brent Muffburger knew Wednesday.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:47 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:48 am to
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They both really had the boosters and fans grumbling at the end in a very similar fashion.


If the internet/social media was back then like it is now, there's a chance we don't have our 80-83 run because dooley would've already been fired.
Posted by olddawg26
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:48 am to
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retireing



Yup. Checks out.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:51 am to
If internet and social media was around, Dooley may not have been able to bury all them skeletons... Different times though.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:53 am to
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CMR is the best coach we have ever had.... UGA needs to honor him


Uhhhhhh.....no he isn't.

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disagree, but I'm sure most people over the age of 40 will defend dooley to the death.


Hmmmmmm, Dooley has a bunch more hardware in the ole trophy case than Richt. And that my friend is where it really counts.

1 Natty > 0 Natty

6 SEC Champs > 2 SEC Champs
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:55 am to
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CMR is the best coach we have ever had.... UGA needs to honor him


Agree in spite of the lack of a NC and yes, Richt will be honored in a number of ways.
Posted by Red&Black
Athens, GA
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:55 am to
So Monteg is the real guy pulling all the strings...makes sense.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:56 am to
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Dooley may not have been able to bury all them skeletons


What like players not being able to read or one particular player and his Trans Am?

Pretty sure the reading skeletons busted out of the closet with Kemp.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:57 am to
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1 Natty > 0 Natty


so gene chizik and larry coker are better head coaches than richt?

Dooley coached for 10 more years than richt so it's not surprising he has more hardware. I'm firmly of the belief that if something happened...it counts. Period. So yes, dooley got him a title and earned those wins, I'm NOT taking that away from him. However, if you look at what he did without the greatest college football player to ever step foot on the field, dooley won 3 SEC titles in 22 seasons. If we never got herschel, dooley would be looked at as probably a worse version of frank beamer.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:00 am to
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If the internet/social media was back then like it is now, there's a chance we don't have our 80-83 run because dooley would've already been fired.



I've been saying that for years.....'79 was a disaster of a season starting with losing the opener to Wake Forrest and yes Dooley was on the hot seat but he did deliver 80-83.

Richt didn't. And that's the truth.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:02 am to
3 of those SEC Championships were shared, so if you count those, then frankly you need to count Richt's East Chsmpionships... Even the ones that were a tie and we didn't go to Atlanta. Dooley also had 10 more years and autonomy the last 15.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:02 am to
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I disagree, but I'm sure most people over the age of 40 will defend dooley to the death.

I was a soph in 1968 when Dooley lied to his team and cheated them out of a chance to win the nc. The team voted to go to the Orange Bowl to take out number 1 but Dooley picked the Sugar Bowl. Team captain Jake Scott was so pissed that he quit school and went to Canada. I've hated Dooley ever since.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:05 am to
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dooley would be looked at as probably a worse version of frank beamer.



But he is not. You can't pick and choose and omit. He won six SEC titles and 1 Natty.

Richt is solidly number 2 for now followed fairly distantly by Wally Butts who by the way has a recognized Natty and 4 SEC titles but had some very lean years in the 50's until Francis showed up.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 9:08 am
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:08 am to
Dooley should never be credited for anything. Erk Russell and Herschel Walker should get credit but Dooley never had an offense. Three yards and a cloud of dust Dooley was a joke.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:09 am to
After dooley's 68 SEC title, he went the following prior to 1980:

5-5-1
5-5
11-1 (no title)
7-4
7-4-1
6-6
9-3
10-2 (SEC champs)
5-6
9-2-1
6-5

that's 80-43-3 (63%) with 1 SEC title over 11 years. If things were then how they are now, dooley isn't there in 80.


It's tough. You look at guys like bowden and osborne who coached YEARS before winning it all. Heck I think it took osborne over 20 years. But this is a different era, I get that.
Posted by Leghumper
Lawrenceville, Georgia
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:17 am to
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UGA needs to honor him


nope
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:32 am to

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If things were then how they are now, dooley isn't there in 80.



And if Gen. Lee would have listened to Gen. Longstreet in July of '63.........
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:53 am to
Dooley was not a good coach , he had Erk and Walker.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:32 am to
And if we use that argument then one could CMR had BVG and Bobo.

And Gurley. And Chubb. And Knowshon.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 10:36 am
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