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Braves arbitration/free agent stuff

Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:54 am
Posted by Cherokee Chinstrap
Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:54 am
Quick run down

Kimbrel wants $9 mill we offered $6.55 (31.5% diff)

Jhey wants $5.5 we offered $5.2 (5.61% diff)

Freddie wants $5.75 we offered $4.5 (24.39% diff)

I do not expect us to keep Kimbrel past next season. It really sucks, but he is a reliever who we have very little chance of resigning when the time comes.
It becomes even less likely that we will be able to keep him when you consider the everyday positional players that we will have to pay.

Freddie is phenomenal with his glove and his contact rate. He does leave much to be desired from a power stand point, but the dude is a ball player plain and simple.

Jhey: The fact that we are going to arbitration over 300k scares the shite out of me regarding his future with the club.


2016 Free agents: Jhey, Medlen, Justin Upton
2017 Free agents: Freeman, Kimbrel

Medlen was able to avoid arbitration this year, but IMO he is not in the long term plans for the team due to his diminished velocity and injury risk.

I honestly have no idea how we are going to be able to afford both Upton and Jhey moving forward.

Also note that Gonzales and Wren are both in the last years of their contracts.


One positive is that Uggla is finally off the books in 2015

Posted by DawgNation2012
Canton, GA
Member since Sep 2012
817 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:57 am to
It will be a very bad mistake if the braves end up not paying Kimbrel and letting him go next year.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30539 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:01 am to
Kimbrel will be traded to the highest bidder if he wants 9M in arb#1
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30539 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:03 am to
On a lighter note, Freemans girl is







Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23965 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:06 am to
Yeah, Kimbrel is out of his damn mind.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:08 am to
Meanwhile they're making it rain in New York and LA...
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23965 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:11 am to
our TV deal and disinterested owners have put us behind the 8-ball. I'm actually kind of worried about the Braves' future. Our farm system blows right now, and if we lose freeman, Heyward, etc in the next couple of years we might be looking at some Astro-like seasons.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46409 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:12 am to
Pay Freddie and Craig, tell JHey to kick rocks.

And someone please force Struggla to retire
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23965 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:19 am to
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tell JHey to kick rocks


Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30539 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:21 am to
quote:

our farm system blows right now


I think we have 1 guy in the top 100 and hes at 80 or something like that. The farm system used to be a strength and now its a major weakness
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46409 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:27 am to
Don't casty me Dude is an average player. Failing to sign over a $300k difference on a $5 million+ contract?
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23965 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:33 am to
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Dude is an average player.


nope.

quote:

Failing to sign over a $300k difference on a $5 million+ contract?


more of an indictment on the organization than the player
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20294 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:54 am to
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Dude is an average player.
Durden!
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30539 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:56 am to
The $300K gap speaks more to our owners than the player IMO. basically, we fricked

#glorydaysareover
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:05 pm to
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It becomes even less likely that we will be able to keep him when you consider the everyday positional players that we will have to pay.


I wish Liberty Media would just fricking sell the Braves to an owner that is willing to invest enough.

quote:

One positive is that Uggla is finally off the books in 2015



Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Dude is an average player.


No. No, he's not.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46409 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:09 pm to
I am not on the JHey bandwagon. Sorry

A .254 BA and .389 OBP is respectable, certainly. But it doesn't get me jumping for joy, no matter how great his fielding is.

If we come to an agreement and he stays, that's cool. But I'm not doing backflips over him.
Posted by Cherokee Chinstrap
Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Nov 2012
2145 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:20 pm to
I believe the power will come around eventually for Jhey but his injury history is a bit of a concern. A few of them (appendectomy, broken jaw) have been freak occurances.

I'm not trying to say the guy is soft by any means but his threshold for pain doesn't seem to be all that high when you consider the neck,thumb,and shoulder ailments that have held him out of the lineup for extended periods of time.

I also believe that Kimbrel could get us the best return if we are able to trade him to a contender seeking to bolster their pen for a title run, assuming we are not in serious contention.





Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:47 pm to
I hate liberty media
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:50 pm to
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I hate liberty media


Yep. Unfortunately, with that awful tv contract that the Braves have, I don't think anyone else would buy them right now though.
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