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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by RhodeDawg
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:13 pm to
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Wing-T/Flex TO blocking schemes and Pro-Style blocking schemes are very, very different.


Yeah even I know that.

One is high school, the other is called Pro for a reason.

That offense only works because it's an antique. That's how he gets away with it actually. It's no wonder they can't out- recruit UGA.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted by RhodeDawg
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:17 pm to
Seems to me outside containment is the simple key to defeating that CPJ option scheme.
I believe that as long as the outside edge is contained it limits the points scored/ total offense of a triple option??
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:18 pm to
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A question for coaches or those that played at the next level. by deeprig9
If you've got two quarterbacks, you don't have one.




Unless it's at home vs Clemson 2002 or Colorado 2006.
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:20 pm to
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Gotcha.
So that would be his 3rd option...


And keeping it himself is the 4th. It's that threat which can help open up all the other options more, so it would behoove us to get a big qb who can run well like fields.
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Seems to me outside containment is the simple key to defeating that CPJ option scheme.
I believe that as long as the outside edge is contained it limits the points scored/ total offense of a triple option??




you better have some dbs who can cover wrs as well, thats what got us beat last year
Posted by RhodeDawg
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:30 pm to
Yeah I guess that's always the case.
I'm just wondering though... in the week leading up to Tech, I imagine the defensive coaches screaming "contain." Focusing on outside edge containment.
Think I'm over-simplifying it?

ETA:
You know, forcing the play back towards the middle of the field where the DEs OLBs help is...
Thus limiting the outside option.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 1:32 pm
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:33 pm to
Assignment football at its best. Discipline is the only way to stop the TO. Everyone has an assignment. If one person doesn't play his assignment it's a big play waiting to happen.
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:37 pm to
Another great answer. I guess that's what I'm trying to explain.
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:47 pm to
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If *ONE* person doesn't play his assignment it's a big play waiting to happen.


No wonder it's so hard to defend. Especially considering that we'd typically only see it once a year (unless we played GA SO).

Does App State run that crap? Anyone know?
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:53 pm to
My last question:

When do the players start Fall practice? 3 weeks? First week in August right?

(Yes I'm Jonesing)
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:10 pm to
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I guess my real question is:

Does the offensive line have to learn a new blocking scheme to run a RPO, or can they basically still run a typical pro set?




Nope, they just run block and try to get to the next level. I haven't read the whole thread but we actually ran the ROO with Lambert pretty well. We read the Will LB(if I am remembering correctly)
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:13 pm to
Will is weak side right?
Sam is strong.
Mike is middle.

What makes a Sam strong? When the Mike slides to that side of our center?
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:17 pm to
So the QB in a RPO would:
a.recognize the weak side
b.read the weak side LB
c.option accordingly???
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 2:18 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:37 pm to
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Will is weak side right?
Sam is strong.
Mike is middle.

What makes a Sam strong? When the Mike slides to that side of our center?


Strong side is determined by how the offense lines up. The side of the ball with more players is the strong side.
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:38 pm to
Gotcha. So a TE on one side of our offense would make that LB the Sam.
Posted by crispyUGA
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:43 pm to
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No wonder it's so hard to defend.


It works against a defenders "seek and destroy" mentality. With the options and misdirections available, it can kill you if you don't play your assignment and go for a big play. A poorly disciplined defense full of 5-star, future NFL defenders will get gashed by the triple option. On the flip-side, a defense full of nobodies who are well disciplined and play their assignments can absolutely smother the offense.

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Does App State run that crap? Anyone know?

They run a variation of it. Similar, but not the same. Don't expect much passing.
Posted by RhodeDawg
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:44 pm to
Makes absolute sense.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:49 pm to
RPO as it is being executed is really against the rules as far as I'm concerned and it will soon be ruled out of existence...

But, ya, you actually just do run blocking, so it's not a complicated deal in that regards...
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:53 pm to
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Gotcha. So a TE on one side of our offense would make that LB the Sam.


Just depends on the D. Some have the TE trump everything and some use the backs.

And most college Ds flip to the strength so that the Sam backer always goes to the strength and is pkayed by the same player.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:54 pm to
I think it's actually something we could see a lot of this season if Eason is comfortable enough. It could take a lot of pressure off our OL.
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