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Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:54 pm to Glory, Glory
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Tyreke Johnson is going to continue to tumble down the rankings
He kept his 5th star with Rivals, as did the running back some don't consider a loss if we don't get
Posted on 8/21/17 at 3:14 pm to djsdawg
Nope, just a hunch and I'm basing it off FSU having a more desirable depth chart. As a matter of fact, I think Jimbo's reputation as a QB guru is highly exaggerated. He gets credit for Winston, but everyone ignores Jamarcus Russell, Ponder and EJ Manuel (all 3 of the biggest QB bust of all time).
Posted on 8/21/17 at 3:17 pm to AmericusDawg
Rivals is garbage and you know it. He struggled at every camp this summer and got murdered at the Opening. That's not a hunch, those are facts. If he continues his pursuit of playing CB in college he won't make the 247 Sports top 247 players. Check out the 247 articles on Tyreke, they're awful.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 3:22 pm to Glory, Glory
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Nope, just a hunch and I'm basing it off FSU having a more desirable depth chart. As a matter of fact, I think Jimbo's reputation as a QB guru is highly exaggerated. He gets credit for Winston, but everyone ignores Jamarcus Russell, Ponder and EJ Manuel (all 3 of the biggest QB bust of all time).
Only way the depth chart is more desirable is if Francois goes pro after this year. He'd have to have a great season with such a strong QB draft class.
Otherwise, he's competing for a starting role in 2019 with Fromm or Hockman (assuming Eason goes pro after 2018)
Posted on 8/21/17 at 3:28 pm to gatorhata9
Francois will never be a QB in the NFL unless he wins the Heisman. He will play all 4 years for FSU.
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 3:44 pm to Glory, Glory
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That's not a hunch, those are facts
I'll take it as so. Thanks for the info and enlightenment
Posted on 8/21/17 at 4:53 pm to gatorhata9
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Otherwise, he's competing for a starting role in 2019 with Fromm or Hockman (assuming Eason goes pro after 2018)
Since neither Hockman or Fromm have take a snap yet, I'll just use the rankings as the proxy. Fromm looks like the better prospect. And we're also working under the assumption that Eason takes the next step. I do think Eason is a three year player but we just don't know yet.
For the record, I don't think Francois will go pro. I'm not high on him at all. He struggled against teams with a pulse last year. His stats were below pedestrian. I know I'm arguing against my point, but Francois will be at FSU in 2019. If not, add him to the long list of failed QB's under Jimbo.
I guess my argument is, and again it's my opinion, Fields will better than any QB on FSU's roster, whereas he could be the 2nd or 3rd best at UGA. UGA has recruited the QB position better than FSU the past 2 years.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:05 am to Glory, Glory
Hey fellas. Just thought I'd share this. Warning, it is from Rivals. 
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Take Two returns this week as a daily offering tackling a handful of issues in the college football landscape. Rivals.com National Recruiting Analyst Adam Gorney lays out the situation and then receives takes from Rivals.com National Recruiting Director Mike Farrell and a local expert from the Rivals.com network of team sites.
Storyline: Georgia feels confident. Florida State feels confident. Auburn and USC don’t seem to be out of the running.
That is the situation when it comes to the recruitment of five-star quarterback Justin Fields, who moved up to No. 2 in the rankings this week behind only Clemson quarterback commit Trevor Lawrence.
What makes Fields’ recruitment even more interesting is that the Kennesaw (Ga.) Harrison phenom, who had six touchdowns in his season-opener, is not talking much about recruiting these days.
And there are so many rumors: He’s a silent commit to Georgia; he’s told Florida State he’s coming; he’s going to surprise people by heading to USC. No one seems to know what Fields is thinking at this point but there could be some indications on what’s going to happen. Breaking it down even further, it seems like a Georgia/Florida State battle right now and there are unsurprisingly different opinions on where the five-star quarterback will end up.
First take: “The state of Georgia has never had as many highly touted quarterbacks in the Rivals era as it does for the class of 2017. Such a crop may be unprecedented. To search the archives for a comparable athlete to Fields, one needs go back 10 years to his mentor, Cam Newton. Newton's recruitment was the stuff of legends, and the recruitment of his protégé is similarly unreal.
"With countless requests for interviews, Fields has understandably stopped speaking with the media at a time when multiple college coaching staffs appear confident that he’ll be wearing their colors. From where I sit in Athens, we’ve long heard the whispers about Fields sticking close to home, silently recruiting for the Bulldogs and stepping into an offense custom-built for his skill set.
"I can only go off of what my sources tell me, so Georgia is my pick. But with a kid this smart, deliberate, and savvy, I’m not surprised there is conflicting information. If there’s anything Fields does better than look off coverages or scramble his way to a first down, it’s ignoring pundits and their opinions.” – Jake Reuse, UGASports.com
Second take: “It can be Georgia but my guess is Florida State. I don’t think anybody has a really good read on this. If you talk to people in and around the Georgia program, he’s been silently committed to them since May. If you talk to people in and around Auburn, they’re going to get him. If you talk to people in and around USC, they think they’re going to pull him across the country. If you talk to people at Florida State, they feel very confident with their track record of producing quarterbacks that they’re going to get him.
"He said it’s a business decision. If it’s a business decision, most likely he goes to Florida State. If it’s a family decision, most likely he’s going to go to Georgia. Safe bet right now because family always wins, is Georgia. He says over and over again he and his father are going to make a business decision and that’s why I’m picking Florida State.” – Farrell
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:09 am to TideSaint
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“The state of Georgia has never had as many highly touted quarterbacks in the Rivals era as it does for the class of 2017. Such a crop may be unprecedented.
I think Fromm can/will be a really good college QB, but not getting one of the talented QBs from this class with 3 in state, and Corral's huge interest in us at one point would be a massive miss.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:22 am to TideSaint
It's becoming a trend that one of the only reasons for thinking it could be FSU is Winston. All other signs seem to point to UGA.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:36 am to dhuck20
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It's becoming a trend that one of the only reasons for thinking it could be FSU is Winston.
Francois, Ponder, and Manuel all have been/will be 1st rounders as well.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:02 am to Glory, Glory
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I guess my argument is, and again it's my opinion, Fields will better than any QB on FSU's roster, whereas he could be the 2nd or 3rd best at UGA. UGA has recruited the QB position better than FSU the past 2 years.
He's not going to beat out Francois for the starting job. He may walk in as the #2 guy but he's not replacing the guy who's been productive with 2 years of starting under his belt.
That said, he could certainly beat out Fromm for the starting job once Eason leaves. He's definitely more talented.
Point is, the depth chart isn't more or less appealing at either school.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:57 pm to Dawgsontop34
Ej Manuel blows, Christian Ponder blows, and I doubt Francois will be a first rounder
Posted on 8/22/17 at 5:38 pm to BreezyDawg
I believe that Justin Fields is a game changer for any program, especially UGA, the way Cam Newton was for Auburn and Deshaun Watson was for Clemson. He's big, fast, athletic, with a strong accurate arm. We need to get him. In fact, from now on we need to be recruiting guys like Fields, guys who can kill you with their arm or their legs. It just makes your offense more difficult to defend.
Losing him would sting as bad as losing Deshaun Watson, and we know what he did at Clemson.
Losing him would sting as bad as losing Deshaun Watson, and we know what he did at Clemson.
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 5:46 pm to HTDawg
I am so excited to think about the future of our program with Fields. Dont' get me wrong, eason and fromm are incredible and I'm thrilled with both, but we haven't had a true dual threat since DJ and that was only for one year (and he honestly was more of a pocket passer than a scrambler really in 2005). To go back to a multi-year starter your looking at Quincy..that's almost 2 decades. YOu look at guys like jalen hurts who isn't even really a good passer but guys like that can absolutely turn games around with their legs, I want to see someone like that here.
What's going to be a bit odd if how the rotation will play out if he does come. You'll have a Junior Eason solidly starting (barring disaster), a RFr Fromm and a TFr fields. He aint riding the bench so we'll give him some designed packages I'm sure. Then in '19 you've got a So Fromm and Fields duking it out. Great problem to have, but I hate that one guy is gonna be left sidelined.
What's going to be a bit odd if how the rotation will play out if he does come. You'll have a Junior Eason solidly starting (barring disaster), a RFr Fromm and a TFr fields. He aint riding the bench so we'll give him some designed packages I'm sure. Then in '19 you've got a So Fromm and Fields duking it out. Great problem to have, but I hate that one guy is gonna be left sidelined.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 6:05 pm to WG_Dawg
With Thomas, Salyer, Hill, Johnson, Wilson blocking, Zeus and Swift running the ball, and a stacked receiving corps to throw too.... Future is exicting
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 8/23/17 at 6:08 am to BreezyDawg
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Ej Manuel blows, Christian Ponder blows, and I doubt Francois will be a first rounder
Every talented kid out there believes if he can make it to the NFL he will succeed. The key is getting drafted and where you are drafted. The initial contract is based on where you are drafted. Fisher has gotten 2-3 kids drafted in the 1st round and a possible 4th will be drafted in the 1st rd. Kirby cannot point to that kind of success, yet.
If a kid fails in the NFL it is his initial contract that makes a huge difference.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 6:12 am
Posted on 8/23/17 at 6:10 am to Dawgsontop34
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one point would be a massive miss.
bullshite. Complete bullshite.
These are 18 year kids who may have NO INTEREST in UGA at all.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 6:32 am to Spaceman Spiff
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These are 18 year kids who may have NO INTEREST in UGA at all.
Isn't that why it's considered a miss? The point of recruiting is to make kids want to come to UGA.
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