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re: 2016 UGA Baseball Thread (27-30, 11-20) // Season Complete

Posted on 5/21/16 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
13198 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 12:21 pm to
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Explain this shite to me.


We suck? We aren't any good?
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46412 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 12:26 pm to
I just can't understand why we can get lead off batters on but then choke once we have runners in scoring position. We do it al consistently and don't know why it happens or how you can fix it
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46412 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 12:47 pm to
Finally plate some runs, tied 2-2 in the 6th
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46412 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 2:26 pm to
Dawgs down 5-2 in the 9th. Regional hopes officially dead and we are all but guaranteed to finish with another losing record.

Oh and we lost to a hapless Tennessee program
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23965 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 2:59 pm to
Fire stricklin
Posted by SCDawg
Spartanburg, Sc
Member since Feb 2016
2499 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 4:07 pm to
Fire Stricklin
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
6348 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 5:58 pm to
I said we would be awful before the year, and would be lucky to make the SEC tournament, and I guess Im right, although it does suck. I want this program to be like it was with Fields, Beckham, Poythress, and Massaneri, but I dont think we will be as long as Stricklin is the coach. I dont think he is getting the talent to Athens. I honestly dont see much future from this roster. Now that I said that, Im willing to give him one more year with his guys, and see just what we have, but next year is his last.


Can anyone answer this question. What was the name of the black catcher that we had maybe mid 2000s, right before the Beckham era. I loved watching him play.

Edit:Doc Brooks is who I was thinking of. All conference as a junior. 45 career home runs, which was #1 until Beckham came along.
This post was edited on 5/21/16 at 6:09 pm
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15644 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 6:10 pm to
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I dont think he is getting the talent to Athens



Pretty sure he has the 16th ranked class currently....

Our last guy basically quit on the program and he inherited a pretty shitty program. It could be better but it could also be a lot worse.
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
6348 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 6:27 pm to
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Pretty sure he has the 16th ranked class currently....


Its actually #14 according to Perfect Game, and 4 of those guys are in the top 100. If all four are drafted, and go pro, what is left? Its not all about getting the big names in college baseball recruiting, and when you do, you have to make damn great relationships with the prospects so they will waiver when they are drafted high.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46412 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 7:05 pm to
I think calling this team awful is being a bit overdramatic. But they're not good either. This team is just mediocre and happens to have to play in a conference and in a region of the country that necessitates us having the #1 SOS in the country.

Furthermore, the problem isn't talent (at least not at the plate or in the field, save maybe 3B); individually, guys like Wrenn, Curry, McGovern, and Weber are talented enough to excel on most any lineup you put them on. The problem is a horrendous lack of consistency. This team is just not smart at the plate and lacks any apparent confidence with runners in scoring position. Today, we swung at garbage change up after garbage change up from a pitcher with a 6+ ERA on the season and batted into at least 3 double plays. Against Tech, we struck out swinging at what would have been ball 4 with the bases already loaded and consistently squandered opportunities with RISP by doing everything but trying to hit into the right field gap. I assume you can only put that on the coaches.

If there's a lack of talent, it's on the mound. This program has suffered horribly from a lack of a true closer over the past few years. We've gotten some really solid outings from our starters this year only to have them completely fall apart in the later innings, compounded by the fact that we can't seem to generate any run support as the game moves on.

All told, I think Stricklin will have an opportunity next season to coach the best team this program has had on paper since 2011. But if he can't at least win a game or two in an NCAA regional, I think you have to move on. And I think that McGarity deserves to feel some of the heat, as well, given that this has been his biggest hire other than Kirby (which was kind of a no brainer).
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46412 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 7:18 pm to
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It could be better but it could also be a lot worse.


Let's be clear: this program is better now than it was when Stricklin got it. The problem is it's not good enough, not in a conference like the SEC.

Also realize that Perno consistently brought in the #1 class year after year while he was here. The problem is that this isn't football and those rankings come prior to that year's draft. So, if you want to make comparisons to football, it's like automatically losing your 5*s and maybe a high 4* or two. What you're left with are a small group of 4*s and a lot of 3*s that you have to develop over the next 3-4 years and, usually, it takes them 2 or 3 years before they're developed enough to really make an impact. That's why teams like Florida with all that senior talent (or the 2008 UGA team with seniors like Beckham, Peisel, and Fields and Juniors like Poythress, Masineri, and Lewis) are so damn good; they're full of developed talent.

Entering year 4 with Stricklin, you want to see evidence that the talent he has recruited has been developed to a point that we can be competitive with teams like A&M, UF, Vandy, USCe, etc. There were flashes this year of that talent and development coming through but, again, it's the lack of consistency and smart play at the plate that is troubling.
This post was edited on 5/21/16 at 7:46 pm
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46412 posts
Posted on 5/22/16 at 7:54 am to
Dawgs draw ole miss on Tuesday. If we win, we'd face South Carolina on Wednesday. Avoid LSU, Florida, and MSU on our side but get vandy and a&m if we make it that far
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86434 posts
Posted on 5/22/16 at 9:01 am to
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this program is better now than it was when Stricklin got it.


based on what, exactly?

If you want to debate that going from a negative 10 to a negative 9 is improvement then ok, but we aren't any better off as a program now than we were under the end of perno's regime.

If stricklin isn't fired after this season then mcgarity is truly and utterly worthless. IDGAF about what our SOS is (really? People want to use that as justification to keep a coach? Please..), I don't care what recruits we have that may or may not come next year. We are a horrendous program and have been every season CSS has been here, there is zero hope of improvement in the near future, and there are about 4 or 5 programs in our own convference that are legit national powerhouses. There is zero reason whatsoever to keep this bum, but looking at the history of mcgarity's hirings and firings I alreayd know what to expect.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23965 posts
Posted on 5/22/16 at 9:13 am to
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based on what, exactly?

If you want to debate that going from a negative 10 to a negative 9 is improvement then ok, but we aren't any better off as a program now than we were under the end of perno's regime.

If stricklin isn't fired after this season then mcgarity is truly and utterly worthless. IDGAF about what our SOS is (really? People want to use that as justification to keep a coach? Please..), I don't care what recruits we have that may or may not come next year. We are a horrendous program and have been every season CSS has been here, there is zero hope of improvement in the near future, and there are about 4 or 5 programs in our own convference that are legit national powerhouses. There is zero reason whatsoever to keep this bum, but looking at the history of mcgarity's hirings and firings I alreayd know what to expect.





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Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46412 posts
Posted on 5/22/16 at 9:26 am to
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based on what, exactly?


For one, this has been our highest RPI ranking since 2011.

2016 - 35
2015 - 92
2014 - 59
2013 - 133
2012 - 55

quote:

If you want to debate that going from a negative 10 to a negative 9 is improvement then ok, but we aren't any better off as a program now than we were under the end of perno's regime.

The feel of the program is in a better place than what it felt like in Perno's later years, c'mon. The program isn't close to its halcyon days but let's not act like it isn't in a better place now than it was the season Perno was fired. It's just not good enough.

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f stricklin isn't fired after this season then mcgarity is truly and utterly worthless.

At this point, I'm not going to be too broken up about it if he stays or goes. But just like when Perno left and Stricklin came in, expect another 2 years or so of transitional shite baseball as the recruits are released from their NLIs, the current players transfer and quit the team, and whoever the new guy is tries to find success in the strongest baseball conference in the country with a non-con slate that will always feature Tech, Clemson, Kennesaw, and Mercer. There is no good option here. Perno screwed over the very program he built (for reasons I still can't comprehend) and now we have to rely on our weakest AD maybe ever to find someone to bring us back up to par with a decent hire in an unprecedentedly strong conference. So, either accept the mediocrity we have with hopes that it will catch on in the next year or two as the current players gain more experience and are developed or play the same demolition game over and over until the conference gets weaker or our AD becomes competent.
This post was edited on 5/22/16 at 9:31 am
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15644 posts
Posted on 5/22/16 at 8:09 pm to
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you have to make damn great relationships with the prospects so they will waiver when they are drafted high.


Usually teams know whether or not a player is sign able. They negotiate deals before the draft is set. I got a buddy who's kid is being negotiated for the 5th round this year if he's willing to sign at 450k. He turned it down. He is currently committed to Arkansas. That was an offer from the Yankees who also told him to expect another offer and the Dodgers are also making offers. If those 4 in the Top 100 do get drafted it's probably because they are more than likely willing to sign.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21722 posts
Posted on 5/22/16 at 9:25 pm to
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5th round this year if he's willing to sign at 450k. He turned it down



If he's truly a 5th rounder, this is more then any 5th rounder made last year and would be a complete idiot not to take that amount and go get coached up by coaches that know what their doing to develop talent for the next level.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15644 posts
Posted on 5/22/16 at 10:47 pm to
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If he's truly a 5th rounder, this is more then any 5th rounder made last year and would be a complete idiot not to take that amount and go get coached up by coaches that know what their doing to develop talent for the next level.


That's what his mom said they were offering. Seems like 400k was the top bonus for 5th round last year but it's not far off and that's straight from the players mom. She said he wants to pitch in the SEC and they are originally from Arkansas so unless he gets a better round and more money he's going to pitch for Arkansas next year.

Actually that's wrong...one kid got over 900k in the 5th round and another in the 6th got 600k. So sometimes will go over slot if the player will sign. This kid i'm talking about would be considered a hard sign at this point because he's been committed to Arkansas for over a year.
This post was edited on 5/22/16 at 10:50 pm
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9406 posts
Posted on 5/22/16 at 11:06 pm to
Come on, this is the Dawg Rant. Don't let facts get in the way of the negative rhetoric!
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
6348 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 7:39 am to
Baseball America came out with their top 500 for the draft.

Stephen Wrenn is #212. That would be a 7th round pick, and if he is picked in that area, he's more than likely gone since he will still have some leverage as a junior. If he comes back to school, then he's looking at a team low balling him.

Connor Jones is the only other UGA player in the top 500, at #399.
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