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Posted on 5/17/15 at 10:12 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Posted on 5/17/15 at 10:12 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
I'm sure he'll sleep fine. I'm sure I'll sleep fine. Sorry to post my opinion that contradicts yours (and I'm typically Disney) on a forum...designed for discussion. I just can't see how others would put the blinders on about him
This post was edited on 5/17/15 at 10:17 pm
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 10:36 pm to IT_Dawg
Oh, so because I don't see what you do means I have on blinders. Got it. I'd say you have blinders on bringing up a championship that was several years before he took over and has no bearing on the team he inherited. The program can reach that level again but you don't go from the shite house to the penthouse over night.
I choose to see the situation he was put into and the steady improvements he is making in the team. If he has a bad year without the injuries next year then I'll lose confidence.
I choose to see the situation he was put into and the steady improvements he is making in the team. If he has a bad year without the injuries next year then I'll lose confidence.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 2:50 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Okay, so having 2 losing seasons in a row, not even making the SEC tournament this year, and not even close to being ranked in recruiting, please explain how Stricklin is headed in the right direction....,
Keep in mind, a good recruiting class 1 season can take a team to regionals. This isn't football. Good Freshman recruits are often times better than seniors. I see a downgrade in recruiting and overall team records.
Injuries do happen, but we weren't winning at the end with our players back either....
Like I said, program might have been left headed in the wrong direction, but that direction hasn't changed in 2 years
Eta: we were 63rd in recruiting this year too. Where is the East Cobb pipeline we all raved about (me included) 2 years ago?
Keep in mind, a good recruiting class 1 season can take a team to regionals. This isn't football. Good Freshman recruits are often times better than seniors. I see a downgrade in recruiting and overall team records.
Injuries do happen, but we weren't winning at the end with our players back either....
Like I said, program might have been left headed in the wrong direction, but that direction hasn't changed in 2 years
Eta: we were 63rd in recruiting this year too. Where is the East Cobb pipeline we all raved about (me included) 2 years ago?
This post was edited on 5/18/15 at 2:55 am
Posted on 5/18/15 at 7:02 am to IT_Dawg
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Keep in mind, a good recruiting class 1 season can take a team to regionals.
No.
This isn't basketball.
New recruits take time to develop.It takes time to get the team to buy into his program. Stricklin runs a tighter ship than Perno. Every player that has had a chance to leave has done so.
This will be year three and I believe the program will start to gain traction next year.
I'm looking forward to it.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 7:16 am to bulldawger
All it's going to take is 1 good run. Shows some signs of serious life and the players and fans will buy in and the admins will expand the stadium.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:29 am to bulldawger
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New recruits take time to develop
The 63rd best group of recruits....
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This isn't basketball.
I understand that, but 1 good class can take you to regionals. The recruits we SHOULD be getting, should be making a tough decision between UGA and MLB...if we are getting those players, 1 good class will get us to a regional.
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It takes time to get the team to buy into his program
2 years of coaching and we need more "time" for them to buy into the program? Sounds like a shitty coaching job then...
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This will be year three and I believe the program will start to gain traction next year.
So, you agree it hasn't had traction yet and is still headed in the direction Perno left it....which was my argument. I just don't think another year is going to make a lick of difference, especially since we aren't getting any good recruits.
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I'm looking forward to it.
All you can do I guess...like I said, normally I am as Disney as they come, but this reeeeks
Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:31 am to IT_Dawg
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So, you agree it hasn't had traction yet and is still headed in the direction Perno left it....which was my argument. I just don't think another year is going to make a lick of difference, especially since we aren't getting any good recruits.
Like I had said before, this program is no longer as bad as Perno had left it, nor is it heading in a negative direction. It's actually showing signs of life for the first time in 6 years but signs of life aren't good enough to keep your job. The program is improving but it has to improve faster given the resources at hand and the long hangover it has been on. 6 years removed from a regional for a program that had previously gone to 6 CWS and has a national title is about as unacceptable as it was when the football team was having meetings in construction trailers during the 2010 season because BM was getting a long overdue renovation. That shite needs to be ironed out with the quickness.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 5:42 pm to tylerdurden24
McGovern named to Freshman All-SEC, well deserved 
Posted on 5/18/15 at 6:08 pm to tylerdurden24
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It's actually showing signs of life for the first time in 6 years
What life is that? Seriously? Lay down some facts other than some cliche adjectives? I've laid down facts.
You say 6 years, yet we made the regionals 3 out of the last 6 years under Perno. I've given many examples of a program continue to fall.....all you've given is adjectives and injuries, which our team didn't improve when the injuries were over.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 7:21 pm to IT_Dawg
Fine, if you can't take my word for it:
Last four years under Perno
2010 - 16-37 (.301), 5-23 SEC
- Arguably the worst season in the history of UGA baseball on multiple fronts
- Missed SEC tournament
- Notable series win: UK
- Team BA: .301
- Team OBP: .371
- Team ERA: 8.51
2011 - 33-32 (.507), 16-14 SEC
- Made SEC tournament (beat AU, USCe, UF; Lost to Vandy and UF)
- Made NCAA Regional (beat UALR, Creighton; Lost to Creighton and Oregon St)
- Notable series wins: LSU, MSU(sweep), @OM, @UTk, Arky
- Team BA: .274
- Team OBP: .383
- Team ERA: 4.9
2012 - 31-26 (.543), 14-15 SEC
- Made SEC tournament (Lost to Vandy and AUburn)
- Notable series wins: UTk, OM, AU(sweep)
- Team BA: .279
- Team OBP: .360
- Team ERA: 3.86
2013 - 21-32 (.396), 7-20 SEC
- Missed SEC tournament
- Notable series wins: Tech, Florida
- Team BA: .279
- Team OBP: .342
- Team ERA: 4.54
Last two years under Stricklin
2014 - 26-29-1 (.464), 11-17-1
- Made SECtournament, lost to MSU first round
- Notable series wins: A&M, @Mizzou, UTk, USCe
- Team BA: .256
- Team OBP: .356
- Team ERA: 4.33
2015 - 26-28 (.481), 10-19
- Missed SECtournament
- Notable series wins: FSU, @UTk(sweep), @USCe, Clemson(sweep), @UK
- Team BA: .267
- Team OBP: .365
- Team ERA: 3.96
Like I said, Stricklin has shown an improvement over Perno's later years but it has been a slow rise (and to be fair, a large part of that had to do with injuries to two weekend starters and two relievers for a majority of the year). Hence year 3 is boom or bust.
Last four years under Perno
2010 - 16-37 (.301), 5-23 SEC
- Arguably the worst season in the history of UGA baseball on multiple fronts
- Missed SEC tournament
- Notable series win: UK
- Team BA: .301
- Team OBP: .371
- Team ERA: 8.51
2011 - 33-32 (.507), 16-14 SEC
- Made SEC tournament (beat AU, USCe, UF; Lost to Vandy and UF)
- Made NCAA Regional (beat UALR, Creighton; Lost to Creighton and Oregon St)
- Notable series wins: LSU, MSU(sweep), @OM, @UTk, Arky
- Team BA: .274
- Team OBP: .383
- Team ERA: 4.9
2012 - 31-26 (.543), 14-15 SEC
- Made SEC tournament (Lost to Vandy and AUburn)
- Notable series wins: UTk, OM, AU(sweep)
- Team BA: .279
- Team OBP: .360
- Team ERA: 3.86
2013 - 21-32 (.396), 7-20 SEC
- Missed SEC tournament
- Notable series wins: Tech, Florida
- Team BA: .279
- Team OBP: .342
- Team ERA: 4.54
Last two years under Stricklin
2014 - 26-29-1 (.464), 11-17-1
- Made SECtournament, lost to MSU first round
- Notable series wins: A&M, @Mizzou, UTk, USCe
- Team BA: .256
- Team OBP: .356
- Team ERA: 4.33
2015 - 26-28 (.481), 10-19
- Missed SECtournament
- Notable series wins: FSU, @UTk(sweep), @USCe, Clemson(sweep), @UK
- Team BA: .267
- Team OBP: .365
- Team ERA: 3.96
Like I said, Stricklin has shown an improvement over Perno's later years but it has been a slow rise (and to be fair, a large part of that had to do with injuries to two weekend starters and two relievers for a majority of the year). Hence year 3 is boom or bust.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 7:40 pm to tylerdurden24
Only one player on any of the all-conference teams kind of sucks, I thought that Wrenn might get a spot somewhere but the one we got nobody can disagree with. Still believe that next year could be a good year with the younger talent we have if they all stay healthy.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 7:42 pm to SumterCoDawg
Honestly, Wrenn deserved to be on there. He, Stephens, and Walsh all could make arguments as being our best player top to bottom.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 7:54 pm to tylerdurden24
I really figured that both Keeg and Wrenn would be locks to get spots and maybe Walsh could sneak on somewhere for pulling double duty (pitching and playing the field). Other than that, there is a reason we are one of the two worst teams in the SEC, can't make a reasonable argument for anybody else really.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 7:57 pm to SumterCoDawg
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there is a reason we are one of the two worst teams in the SEC
Awful pitching down the stretch (we know why) and wildly inconsistent batting
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:41 pm to tylerdurden24
aight, we agree to disagree. We all hope that UGA athletics turns around for all sports. Go DAWGS.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:07 am to tylerdurden24
Concerning how Perno left the program in shambles (from someone that might know):
"Injuries were the main issue w Perno's last 2 years . he lost his closer , Sat starter and Wood ( Braves )had 3 SEC Fri starts messed up w Rain . Plus injuries to position players ... Perno had very little money for assistant coaches and the worst facilities in the SEC , travel budget was a joke , even the outfield metal wall had exposed rivets etc ... So fast forward to the Strickland hire , he gets 650K a year , Money for assistants and huge upgrade in facilities , and he has " little man syndrome " The players are miserable , at least the several that I know . My guess is that he is way over his head . Baseball in the south is light years better than what he worked with for 9 years at Kent State"
"Injuries were the main issue w Perno's last 2 years . he lost his closer , Sat starter and Wood ( Braves )had 3 SEC Fri starts messed up w Rain . Plus injuries to position players ... Perno had very little money for assistant coaches and the worst facilities in the SEC , travel budget was a joke , even the outfield metal wall had exposed rivets etc ... So fast forward to the Strickland hire , he gets 650K a year , Money for assistants and huge upgrade in facilities , and he has " little man syndrome " The players are miserable , at least the several that I know . My guess is that he is way over his head . Baseball in the south is light years better than what he worked with for 9 years at Kent State"
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 10:37 am
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:15 am to Chris_topher
Strange, the players I've talked to either love him or really like him and what he's doing for the program 
Edit: Was it Billy Martin who said his job is to keep the 5 players who hate him away from the other players
Edit: Was it Billy Martin who said his job is to keep the 5 players who hate him away from the other players
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 10:17 am
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:25 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Strange, the players I've talked to either love him or really like him and what he's doing for the program
Same here. There's usually a vocal minority on every team at every school for every sport that isn't happy. Everything I've heard is that he's actively fought for the salary budget he has and for the upgrades Foley has gotten/should be getting. Additionally, everything I've heard from players is that they like the new workout and practice regimens Stricklin has brought in.
IMO, you're seeing the transition from a player's coach (Perno) to a guy trying to get results. Stricklin is a hardass and that isn't for everyone. We'll see if it's the right approach for UGA next season. If it doesn't work out, we may have a another new coach that some players hate in 2 or so years.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:18 am to tylerdurden24
quote:This is definitely true, and the results of this hire are clearly visible.
Additionally, everything I've heard from players is that they like the new workout and practice regimens Stricklin has brought in.
quote:He is definitely a tough coach, but at times it seems he is almost miserable coaching the team and takes it out on them. Some of the guys think he gets himself ejected so much so he doesn't have to stay there and watch the game anymore.
Stricklin is a hardass and that isn't for everyone
Posted on 5/20/15 at 12:35 pm to SumterCoDawg
Well to be fair I've ejected myself from a few games this season for similar reasons. Bad baseball is hard to watch from any angle. Bad pitching especially
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