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Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:08 pm to DawgCountry
In 2018, I see we only have 3 conference games in Athens. Probably means we are the home team in the FL game at Jax. My point is, on even years, we experience a small disadvantage not playing 4 conference games in Athens.
However, on odd years, the reverse is true, and we get 4 and 1/2 home games (the 1/2 game at Jax which is a 50-50 mix).
However, on odd years, the reverse is true, and we get 4 and 1/2 home games (the 1/2 game at Jax which is a 50-50 mix).
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:34 pm to superdawg
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In 2018, I see we only have 3 conference games in Athens. Probably means we are the home team in the FL game at Jax. My point is, on even years, we experience a small disadvantage not playing 4 conference games in Athens.
However, on odd years, the reverse is true, and we get 4 and 1/2 home games (the 1/2 game at Jax which is a 50-50 mix).
Adding Mizzou and TAMU fricked everything up.
Now there are 7 teams in each division, 6 of which we play (can't play ourselves) plus two West teams.
8 SEC games, and one is always in Jacksonville.
So, only 7 opportunities for home games in conference.
7 doesn't split evenly, so some years we have 3 and some years we have 4.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:50 pm to deeprig9
We've got to switch the Auburn game back to the opposite of where we play Tech. It's killing our odd year home schedules. It's almost enough for somebody not to renew season tickets.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:11 pm to deeprig9
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OSU 2016-
Bowling Green
Rutgers
Tulsa
OSU is the wrong team to use as an example. They played @Oklahoma last year.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:17 pm to BranchDawg
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You mean like Bama, LSU, OSU, Oklahoma, USC, Clemson, Auburn, FSU and Oregon do?
Get the frick outta here with the Oregon example. They played LSU once and got their dicks knocked in the dirt (and were also out of the national title picture by week 2 because of it). Other than that, they've made a habit of hanging 70 on the board against UC Davis and Eastern Washington.
Alabama is usually better than anyone else so this doesn't really mean much to them.
LSU was out of the national title picture after week 1 last year.
OSU does some ballsy scheduling and it has backfired on them a few times, notably when Pete Carroll's USC teams blasted them in both ends of a home and home.
Oklahoma was out of the playoff picture by week 3 last year and probably will be again this year because they'll lose at OSU.
USC generally doesn't step up to the plate in these big boy games. They did last year and lost 52-6.
Point of the story: I'd rather have a lackluster win over a FCS team than a humiliating loss like USC or Oklahoma took last year.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:45 am to dallasga6
Looks like shite again.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:54 am to Dawg4Life47
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Looks like shite again.
Good! The more wins we have on the schedule the better shape we're in for the playoffs. I love it.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:44 am to WG_Dawg
The florida gator approach of the Meyer years or was it the McGarity approach ?
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:54 am to Dawg4Life47
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The florida gator approach of the Meyer years or was it the McGarity approach ?
and I don't care one damn bit...im with WG on this...they got a natty didn't they?...be nice to have one of those sitting in Butts Mehre
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:53 pm to SthGADawg
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and I don't care one damn bit...im with WG on this...they got a natty didn't they?...be nice to have one of those sitting in Butts Mehre
Good for you and him...I prefer playing quality regular season opponents, not pu$$y cupcakes and hope we get into the SECG or Playoffs just to get whipped by Bama or OSU.
If we are that good, we can get through the gauntlet.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:01 pm to Dawg4Life47
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I prefer playing quality regular season opponents
where has that gotten us?
split with Clemson
humiliated by Boise St
beat a decent UNC team and then won 8 games. oh boy
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:33 pm to Dawg4Life47
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If we are that good, we can get through the gauntlet.
Well we haven't been "that good" in almost 40 years now. Florida absolutely built themselves into a premiere programing by scheduled all cupcakes all the time (in addition to an SEC schedule plus their in-state ACC foe, which we have as well) and look where it got them. It just makes absolutley zero sense to try to make things harder on yourself to win it all.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:39 pm to WG_Dawg
Let's work this angle from back to front.
Regardless of your disposition, sunshine pumper or doom and gloomer, I think we can ALL agree that the ultimate goal that we ALL want is to win a national title. Agree? Ok.
To win the national title, you have to first make the playoffs, agree? Good. And to make the playoffs you have to be in the final 4 at the end of the year. Moving on..
How do we finish in the final 4? Well, you have to lose as few games as possible. Logic would dictate that we need to win our conference, which is a safe bet, but let's take a crazy scenario where we go unscathed through the SEC and beat bama in the SECCG, but lose to App state, Samford, and tech. We absolutely would not make the playoffs in that scenario. So while winnign the SEC is excellent (and almost surely a requirement for us), it's even more important to have as few losses as possible, which means...
that we should make it as easy as possible on ourselves to win as many games as we can. We have zero say on the SEC schedule so no use talking about it. We play tech every year so that's written in stone. The only variable at play here that we DO actually have some control over is the 3 other OOC games we play. So bringing it all back home here, since the goal is to win as many games as we can and we do have control over 3 games a year that we play, the clear cut common sense answer is to schedule 3 games that you know you're gonna win.
I'm not ignorant, I certainly realize that beating Ohio State would look better than beating Samford. But we're 99.999% sure we're gonna beat Samford and that's another mark in teh win column. We are assuredly not 99.9% guarnateed to beat Ohio State, and based on current events I'd give our odds somwhere around more like 20%. Yeah it's fun for fans and advertisers but if we lose what was the point?
Regardless of your disposition, sunshine pumper or doom and gloomer, I think we can ALL agree that the ultimate goal that we ALL want is to win a national title. Agree? Ok.
To win the national title, you have to first make the playoffs, agree? Good. And to make the playoffs you have to be in the final 4 at the end of the year. Moving on..
How do we finish in the final 4? Well, you have to lose as few games as possible. Logic would dictate that we need to win our conference, which is a safe bet, but let's take a crazy scenario where we go unscathed through the SEC and beat bama in the SECCG, but lose to App state, Samford, and tech. We absolutely would not make the playoffs in that scenario. So while winnign the SEC is excellent (and almost surely a requirement for us), it's even more important to have as few losses as possible, which means...
that we should make it as easy as possible on ourselves to win as many games as we can. We have zero say on the SEC schedule so no use talking about it. We play tech every year so that's written in stone. The only variable at play here that we DO actually have some control over is the 3 other OOC games we play. So bringing it all back home here, since the goal is to win as many games as we can and we do have control over 3 games a year that we play, the clear cut common sense answer is to schedule 3 games that you know you're gonna win.
I'm not ignorant, I certainly realize that beating Ohio State would look better than beating Samford. But we're 99.999% sure we're gonna beat Samford and that's another mark in teh win column. We are assuredly not 99.9% guarnateed to beat Ohio State, and based on current events I'd give our odds somwhere around more like 20%. Yeah it's fun for fans and advertisers but if we lose what was the point?
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:00 pm to WG_Dawg
you make way too much sense for these fools
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:01 pm to deeprig9
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Bama, LSU, OSU, USC, Auburn, Oregon all have rivals that are in conference. They intentionally schedule 1 decent game out of conference with three cupcakes for their other three out of conf games.
Of course you are correct.
However I do like the neutral big games , it clearly helps in recruiting to be on that stage and I hope UGA does it more.
But to make the playing field level the NCAA or at least the SEC , should mandate scheduling of a min of 2 p5 OOC and 8 Conf games or 1 P5 OOC and 9 conf games. Also NO fcs games allowed, the other 2 money games have to be G5 teams.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:37 pm to WG_Dawg
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Yeah it's fun for fans and advertisers but if we lose what was the point?
And there it is. Don't stack the deck if your goal is the playoffs and more.
If your goal is to provide the toughest matchups for your fans, you go in another direction.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:39 pm to WG_Dawg
I'm with WG on this one. In the SEC you get your standard schedule and then - if you make it to Atl - you get the West winner. If you win that one then more than likely you get the playoffs. There are plenty of quality opponents on that schedule without stretching OOC.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:39 pm to deeprig9
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You mean like Bama, LSU, OSU, Oklahoma, USC, Clemson, Auburn, FSU and Oregon do?
Bama, LSU, OSU, USC, Auburn, Oregon all have rivals that are in conference. They intentionally schedule 1 decent game out of conference with three cupcakes for their other three out of conf games.
Because Georgia has Georgia Tech out of conference every year, we still usually schedule 1 of our remaining 3 games with another good opponent like UNC or Notre Dame or Clemson. Normally, UGA only plays two cupcakes while everyone else in the world plays at least three.
So in 2018 we are playing 3 cupcakes instead of two, which puts us on par with what most other respectable teams do.
So shut your pie hole.
I'm on the fence on this one
Bama & Auburn have a tougher schedule to start because they don't have Vandy & Kentucky built into the sched every year - based on that, we should try to add a 2nd decent OOC game every year
Yes, I know that Vandy & Kentucky have decent years, but typically at least one of those counts as a "cupcake"
And don't get me wrong, I respect Tech's program & know they beat us last year, but the Yellow Jackets are not usually a "top tier" OOC opponent
I like have ND on the sched & would love to see us play a few more "home & homes" with the Oklahoma's & Michigans of the world
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:39 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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However I do like the neutral big games , it clearly helps in recruiting to be on that stage and I hope UGA does it more.
Don't we open with Virginia in Atlanta at some point in the next few years? That seems like a good middle ground between WG and others who think we need to play someone like Ohio State every year.
Virginia has more of a name than Samford but they have been really bad for awhile.
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