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Who still likes Sumlin?
Posted on 7/27/16 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 7/27/16 at 5:28 pm
I'm starting to think I'm the only one who likes Sumlin.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 5:39 pm
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 5:44 pm to trickydick12
I like him, but wouldn't mind moving on if he doesn't win 8 this year.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 5:54 pm to NanosTacoRun
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 6:13 pm to trickydick12
My confidence level that he's the right guy is pretty low. If he goes 8-4 in year 5 I think he should be fired but I imagine we keep him if that happens
Posted on 7/27/16 at 6:22 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I still like him, but he's lost me forever if we don't win 10 games this year.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 6:36 pm to trickydick12
It is not a matter of like or dislike for me. He seems like a good guy. It is clear to me that he is a leader. He did fantastically year 1 and has been mostly solid since. However things are trending down and we have yet to find a suitable replacement at QB for a full year, yet alone multiple years. Then you add in it took him a while to improve the defense, but also hired one of the best best DCs in the nation so its good and bad. Ultimately he needs to improve on 2015 with so many returning players and improvements in the staff. If not then I think it is time to consider replacing him if there is an upgrade out there. I don't want to fire him just to fire him then miss on your top 7 guys and settle for Charlie Strong.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 7:02 pm to trickydick12
Love him but hated how long he held onto Spav
Want him to win more and hope that the coordinator moves make it happen
Want him to win more and hope that the coordinator moves make it happen
Posted on 7/27/16 at 7:04 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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If he goes 8-4 in year 5 he should be fired
Posted on 7/27/16 at 7:10 pm to trickydick12
I like the coaching staff he has assembled for the most part. I really like Chavis and Turner and I would be sad about losing them in a regime change. I like what Sumlin has done with social media.
That's all I got.
That's all I got.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 7:16 pm to trickydick12
Definitely not the only one. 59-0 put a really bad taste in my mouth and it's tough to recover from that. But looking at his record after 4 years:
Kevin Sumlin: 36-16
Mike Sherman: 25-25
Dennis Franchione: 25-25
RC Slocum: 39-10-1
Jackie Sherrill: 26-18-1
So RC did better against inferior competition. Nobody else was close. Plus he has hired the best coaching staff I ever remember A&M having. I won't put a minimum number of wins on his job. Obviously a losing season would be bad and cause to be fired, but I don't think anybody expects that to happen.
Kevin Sumlin: 36-16
Mike Sherman: 25-25
Dennis Franchione: 25-25
RC Slocum: 39-10-1
Jackie Sherrill: 26-18-1
So RC did better against inferior competition. Nobody else was close. Plus he has hired the best coaching staff I ever remember A&M having. I won't put a minimum number of wins on his job. Obviously a losing season would be bad and cause to be fired, but I don't think anybody expects that to happen.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 8:19 pm to finestfirst79
Fun with #s:
More than a quarter of Sumlin's losses (31.25%) came against teams that played in the SEC title game.
18.75% of Sumlin's losses and 1 win came against a team that played in the National Championship game; resulting in 2 National Championships by Bama.
*If Ole Miss vacates their wins those percentages go up to 35.7% SEC title contenders and 21.4% to a National Championship contender.
More than a quarter of Sumlin's losses (31.25%) came against teams that played in the SEC title game.
18.75% of Sumlin's losses and 1 win came against a team that played in the National Championship game; resulting in 2 National Championships by Bama.
*If Ole Miss vacates their wins those percentages go up to 35.7% SEC title contenders and 21.4% to a National Championship contender.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 8:42 pm to cardboardboxer
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I really like Chavis and Turner and I would be sad about losing them in a regime change.
This would undoubtedly be the worst part. I think Sumlin is replaceable, but whoever replaces him almost assuredly will not be bringing the same caliber of staff.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 8:42 pm to Chill98
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Fun with #s:
More than a quarter of Sumlin's losses (31.25%) came against teams that played in the SEC title game.
18.75% of Sumlin's losses and 1 win came against a team that played in the National Championship game; resulting in 2 National Championships by Bama.
*If Ole Miss vacates their wins those percentages go up to 35.7% SEC title contenders and 21.4% to a National Championship contender.
Sumlin's the best 4-loss coach in the nation
Posted on 7/27/16 at 8:48 pm to agalloch
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I still like him, but he's lost me forever if we don't win 10 games this year.
I said earlier 8 is the minimum to consider bringing him back (only because I'd want to see how the recruiting is and what options are out there) but 10 including the bowl game is really what the standard should be. If he can't get to that with this team, he won't get to double digit wins again for awhile.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:19 pm to trickydick12
I'm past having any feelings of "like" or confidence in regards to Summy. It's up to the big boys to decide if he hits the mark or if they want to spend money on a replacement at the end of the year.
I will say that the swagger thing has worn a bit thin.
I will say that the swagger thing has worn a bit thin.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:01 pm to PowerTool
I really like Sumlin and unless we win 7 or less I doubt he gets fired. Us winning 7 or less isn't even very realistic either so he's back next year imo. This team is VERY good as is the current coaching staff. I think Sumlin is still an elite recruiter and after these next 10 wins he's going to show that in a big way
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:01 pm to NanosTacoRun
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Sumlin's the best 4-loss coach in the nation
Maybe we should hire Strong? Sips are really positive after their 5-7 season....
Maybe we could hire Tom Herman? Just hope we don't run into a "buzz saw" like 6-7 UCONN in the SEC and lose to them like UH did last year.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:12 pm to Chill98
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Maybe we could hire Tom Herman? Just hope we don't run into a "buzz saw" like 6-7 UCONN in the SEC and lose to them like UH did last year.
Sumlin lost to 4-8 Rice while at UH. And 4-8 UTEP. And 4-8 Marshall.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:14 pm to NanosTacoRun
He did that with his 4th string QB.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:25 pm to Farmer1906
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He did that with his 4th string QB.
100% false. Keenum took almost every snap in all 3 games.
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