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Which WR group is better?

Posted on 10/12/15 at 11:21 pm
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 11:21 pm
2012 - Evans, Kennedy, Swope, Walker, EZ, Jackson, Askew

2015 - RSJ, Speedy, Kirk, Reynolds, Pope, Ratley, Davis

Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 11:24 pm to
As of now 2012


If RSJ turns it on and learns to make YAC? And Speedy gets healthy? 2015 potentially could surpass
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 11:26 pm to
2012, but only because they delivered over 13 games.

2015 has 8 more games to change my vote.
Posted by TexAgChill
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 11:58 pm to
I'm pondering and can't decide. However, I think Kirk is the best of them all.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:01 am to
Better than Evans??? No way
Posted by NanosTacoRun
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:03 am to
quote:

Better than Evans??? No way

They're both 99s in my book
Posted by TexAgChill
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:07 am to
Would have liked to seen Kirk play with JF.
Posted by Southtxag
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:50 am to
Reynolds doesn't equal Evans but puts in a dent, healthy speedy rolls swope, RSJ most physical ( lol just bc he got ejected- but that big body has shown promise), Ratley has been a pleasant surprise, and Kirk, well Kirk would skull drag all of them outside of Evans and that might be a preference push.

2015, give me some more frickin koolaid!
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:34 am to
Very tough.

Evans > Reynolds

Kennedy > speedy (As of right this minute in terms of production. I think speedy has more talent but he has to prove it over his career)

Swope < Kirk (swope was a damn consistent 3rd down target for us but Kirk is something special)

EZ > RSJ ( I realize these are two different types of receivers playing two different positions but in trying to compare starter to starters. If RSJ starts playing more games like the Miss State game he could pass up EZ)

Walker, Jackson, Askew = Pope, Ratley, Davis

So long story short, idk. That's a hard question. I'd go 2012 right now but this 15 team could be better. Need to see more games
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 8:35 am
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:23 am to
quote:

If RSJ turns it on and learns to make YAC? And Speedy gets healthy? 2015 potentially could surpa


This right here is a huge point, and one that I feel like isn't brought up very often. Dude goes down quicker than a Bryan High school cheerleader after first contact.
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 9:30 am
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:27 am to
In order of play level so far:

Evans
Kirk
Swope
Reynolds
Kennedy
Walker
RSJ
Ratley
Askew
EZ
Speedy
Pope
Jackson
Davis
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:43 am to
You have EZ (26/485/7) way too low


And derel (8/85/0) way too high.

Speedy's too low also, but he needs to be on the field more
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:04 pm to
By "Jackson", do you mean Thomas Johnson?

2012 Walker and Askew combined for 95 yards on 11 catches, with zero TDs. EZ was basically the #3 receiver that year.

2015 I'd swap out Pope for Tabuyo.

To me right now this just boils down to Evans/Swope vs. Kirk/Reynolds, with the former winning. RSJ and Speedy may have something to say about that, though.

Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

Evans > Reynolds

Kennedy > speedy

Swope < Kirk

EZ > RSJ

Walker, Jackson, Askew = Pope, Ratley, Davis



The biggest difference in 2012 vs. now is that the best WR plays a different WR position. In 2012 Evans was our best, Kirk is our best now. They do completely different things.

Evans was a superbeast whereas Kirk is the kwisatz haderach. That's a wash.

Kennedy was damn solid. Speedy is worthless. Advantage 2012.

EZ became a major asset. RSJ is on his way. advantage 2012, BUT, RSJ was playing MUCH better vs. State before getting kicked out. However, his Achilles heel so far as ever being a major weapon for us is that he absolutely cannot get YAC under any circumstance. If all the defenders simultaneously had heart attacks and died when he caught the ball, RSJ would still trip and fall down right where he caught it. I hope the trainers keep an epi pin on the sidelines, because the guy is so allergic to YAC that if he ever gains a yard after the catch he might go into anaphylactic shock.
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:20 pm to
I have no idea why everyone is writing off speedy. He will be back and he will impress.
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:31 pm to
Also - just a general comment - but if we are going to compare individual WRs, we should compare them to their position.

The question is not which wr has the most talent, it's which group is better. We lacked depth in one position last year and we played a walk on in that spot as a result.

Z - Evans vs Noil

X - EZ? and Walker vs. Reynolds / Nacho

H - Kirk / Tabuyo vs Holmes/Swope?

Y - Kennedy/Gonzalez vs RSJ/Holmes

Not sure about these position alignments did this on bad memory

This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:46 pm to
RSJ reminds me of Marqise Lee in that he seems to always catch the ball with his body even when he doesn't have to. This leads to him jumping a lot on throws that Evans or Reynolds would just snatch out of the air, which gives time for defenders to arrive on the scene.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

I have no idea why everyone is writing off speedy.


He's either been "injured" or in the dog house for issues related to generally having a bad attitude since he got here. The times he has played he's been utterly "meh".

Kirk Muad'Dib is everything Speedy was supposed to be though, so we're 1 for 2 in the past 2 years on supposedly god-like WR recruits, which is actually pretty good!
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

The times he has played he's been utterly "meh
if by meh, you mean lead the team last year in all purpose yards than I agree
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
2983 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

RSJ reminds me of Marqise Lee in that he seems to always catch the ball with his body even when he doesn't have to.

Easy to spot the natural receivers by how they catch the ball.

Evans, Kirk, Josh, Malcome, speedy, those guys are true receivers.

Guys like Swope and RSJ just happen to be at the WR position than any other spot on the field, so they're out there doing their best. Swope turned into a beast by the time he left, hope RSJ can do the same.
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