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Which WR group is better?
Posted on 10/12/15 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 10/12/15 at 11:21 pm
2012 - Evans, Kennedy, Swope, Walker, EZ, Jackson, Askew
2015 - RSJ, Speedy, Kirk, Reynolds, Pope, Ratley, Davis
2015 - RSJ, Speedy, Kirk, Reynolds, Pope, Ratley, Davis
Posted on 10/12/15 at 11:24 pm to Warrior Poet
As of now 2012
If RSJ turns it on and learns to make YAC? And Speedy gets healthy? 2015 potentially could surpass
If RSJ turns it on and learns to make YAC? And Speedy gets healthy? 2015 potentially could surpass
Posted on 10/12/15 at 11:26 pm to Warrior Poet
2012, but only because they delivered over 13 games.
2015 has 8 more games to change my vote.
2015 has 8 more games to change my vote.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 11:58 pm to NanosTacoRun
I'm pondering and can't decide. However, I think Kirk is the best of them all.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:01 am to TexAgChill
Better than Evans??? No way
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:03 am to Old Sarge
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Better than Evans??? No way
They're both 99s in my book
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:07 am to Old Sarge
Would have liked to seen Kirk play with JF.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:50 am to Warrior Poet
Reynolds doesn't equal Evans but puts in a dent, healthy speedy rolls swope, RSJ most physical ( lol just bc he got ejected- but that big body has shown promise), Ratley has been a pleasant surprise, and Kirk, well Kirk would skull drag all of them outside of Evans and that might be a preference push.
2015, give me some more frickin koolaid!
2015, give me some more frickin koolaid!
Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:34 am to Warrior Poet
Very tough.
Evans > Reynolds
Kennedy > speedy (As of right this minute in terms of production. I think speedy has more talent but he has to prove it over his career)
Swope < Kirk (swope was a damn consistent 3rd down target for us but Kirk is something special)
EZ > RSJ ( I realize these are two different types of receivers playing two different positions but in trying to compare starter to starters. If RSJ starts playing more games like the Miss State game he could pass up EZ)
Walker, Jackson, Askew = Pope, Ratley, Davis
So long story short, idk. That's a hard question. I'd go 2012 right now but this 15 team could be better. Need to see more games
Evans > Reynolds
Kennedy > speedy (As of right this minute in terms of production. I think speedy has more talent but he has to prove it over his career)
Swope < Kirk (swope was a damn consistent 3rd down target for us but Kirk is something special)
EZ > RSJ ( I realize these are two different types of receivers playing two different positions but in trying to compare starter to starters. If RSJ starts playing more games like the Miss State game he could pass up EZ)
Walker, Jackson, Askew = Pope, Ratley, Davis
So long story short, idk. That's a hard question. I'd go 2012 right now but this 15 team could be better. Need to see more games
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 8:35 am
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:23 am to Old Sarge
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If RSJ turns it on and learns to make YAC? And Speedy gets healthy? 2015 potentially could surpa
This right here is a huge point, and one that I feel like isn't brought up very often. Dude goes down quicker than a Bryan High school cheerleader after first contact.
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 9:30 am
Posted on 10/13/15 at 9:27 am to Warrior Poet
In order of play level so far:
Evans
Kirk
Swope
Reynolds
Kennedy
Walker
RSJ
Ratley
Askew
EZ
Speedy
Pope
Jackson
Davis
Evans
Kirk
Swope
Reynolds
Kennedy
Walker
RSJ
Ratley
Askew
EZ
Speedy
Pope
Jackson
Davis
Posted on 10/13/15 at 10:43 am to cokebottleag
You have EZ (26/485/7) way too low
And derel (8/85/0) way too high.
Speedy's too low also, but he needs to be on the field more
And derel (8/85/0) way too high.
Speedy's too low also, but he needs to be on the field more
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:04 pm to NanosTacoRun
By "Jackson", do you mean Thomas Johnson?
2012 Walker and Askew combined for 95 yards on 11 catches, with zero TDs. EZ was basically the #3 receiver that year.
2015 I'd swap out Pope for Tabuyo.
To me right now this just boils down to Evans/Swope vs. Kirk/Reynolds, with the former winning. RSJ and Speedy may have something to say about that, though.
2012 Walker and Askew combined for 95 yards on 11 catches, with zero TDs. EZ was basically the #3 receiver that year.
2015 I'd swap out Pope for Tabuyo.
To me right now this just boils down to Evans/Swope vs. Kirk/Reynolds, with the former winning. RSJ and Speedy may have something to say about that, though.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:35 pm to Texas Gentleman
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Evans > Reynolds
Kennedy > speedy
Swope < Kirk
EZ > RSJ
Walker, Jackson, Askew = Pope, Ratley, Davis
The biggest difference in 2012 vs. now is that the best WR plays a different WR position. In 2012 Evans was our best, Kirk is our best now. They do completely different things.
Evans was a superbeast whereas Kirk is the kwisatz haderach. That's a wash.
Kennedy was damn solid. Speedy is worthless. Advantage 2012.
EZ became a major asset. RSJ is on his way. advantage 2012, BUT, RSJ was playing MUCH better vs. State before getting kicked out. However, his Achilles heel so far as ever being a major weapon for us is that he absolutely cannot get YAC under any circumstance. If all the defenders simultaneously had heart attacks and died when he caught the ball, RSJ would still trip and fall down right where he caught it. I hope the trainers keep an epi pin on the sidelines, because the guy is so allergic to YAC that if he ever gains a yard after the catch he might go into anaphylactic shock.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:20 pm to Cooter Davenport
I have no idea why everyone is writing off speedy. He will be back and he will impress.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:31 pm to Cooter Davenport
Also - just a general comment - but if we are going to compare individual WRs, we should compare them to their position.
The question is not which wr has the most talent, it's which group is better. We lacked depth in one position last year and we played a walk on in that spot as a result.
Z - Evans vs Noil
X - EZ? and Walker vs. Reynolds / Nacho
H - Kirk / Tabuyo vs Holmes/Swope?
Y - Kennedy/Gonzalez vs RSJ/Holmes
Not sure about these position alignments did this on bad memory
The question is not which wr has the most talent, it's which group is better. We lacked depth in one position last year and we played a walk on in that spot as a result.
Z - Evans vs Noil
X - EZ? and Walker vs. Reynolds / Nacho
H - Kirk / Tabuyo vs Holmes/Swope?
Y - Kennedy/Gonzalez vs RSJ/Holmes
Not sure about these position alignments did this on bad memory
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:46 pm to Cooter Davenport
RSJ reminds me of Marqise Lee in that he seems to always catch the ball with his body even when he doesn't have to. This leads to him jumping a lot on throws that Evans or Reynolds would just snatch out of the air, which gives time for defenders to arrive on the scene.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:55 pm to Warrior Poet
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I have no idea why everyone is writing off speedy.
He's either been "injured" or in the dog house for issues related to generally having a bad attitude since he got here. The times he has played he's been utterly "meh".
Kirk Muad'Dib is everything Speedy was supposed to be though, so we're 1 for 2 in the past 2 years on supposedly god-like WR recruits, which is actually pretty good!
Posted on 10/13/15 at 2:01 pm to Cooter Davenport
quote:if by meh, you mean lead the team last year in all purpose yards than I agree
The times he has played he's been utterly "meh
Posted on 10/13/15 at 2:06 pm to Iosh
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RSJ reminds me of Marqise Lee in that he seems to always catch the ball with his body even when he doesn't have to.
Easy to spot the natural receivers by how they catch the ball.
Evans, Kirk, Josh, Malcome, speedy, those guys are true receivers.
Guys like Swope and RSJ just happen to be at the WR position than any other spot on the field, so they're out there doing their best. Swope turned into a beast by the time he left, hope RSJ can do the same.
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