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re: Want a good laugh? Chip on realignment, 5 years later.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 10:17 am to Cooter Davenport
Posted on 7/2/15 at 10:17 am to Cooter Davenport
I still say that WVU will be the first school to leave and challenge the GoR if they ever have an option. The problem is that they simply do not have an option. They should have stayed in the AAC and potentially could have been added to the ACC instead of Louisville when Marland left. Instead, they locked themselves into playing every game far away and in a different time zone with non traditional match ups.
While OU alone has allure to the SEC, I am of the camp that believes any further expansions will occur in the states of VA and NC.
While OU alone has allure to the SEC, I am of the camp that believes any further expansions will occur in the states of VA and NC.
This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 10:19 am
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 10:38 am to The Balinese Club
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I still say that WVU will be the first school to leave and challenge the GoR if they ever have an option. The problem is that they simply do not have an option. They should have stayed in the AAC and potentially could have been added to the ACC instead of Louisville when Marland left. Instead, they locked themselves into playing every game far away and in a different time zone with non traditional match ups.
That is a serious game of chicken they would have been playing. At the time they had no option to the ACC. If they turned it down and the ACC offer never came then their fan base would never forgive them and the president AD, and half the faculty should be fired. They might as well close the school down.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:17 pm to The Balinese Club
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I still say that WVU will be the first school to leave and challenge the GoR if they ever have an option
I'm not sure what option they'll ever have. WVU isn't nearly as appealing as B12 people seem to think
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potentially could have been added to the ACC instead of Louisville when Marland left
Why would the ACC pick WVU over Louisville? I still for the life of me can't figure out why the B12 did other than recency effect. Choosing to add schools isn't really about that though and it's a red herring. Conference expansion is based on a projection of what you will do tomorrow and onward and how that can help the schools currently in that conference.
WVU adds very little future benefit to any of the P5 conferences and I don't even think they were the best of the bad options for the B12 (or ACC)
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:45 pm to tmc94
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WVU adds very little future benefit to any of the P5 conferences and I don't even think they were the best of the bad options for the B12 (or ACC)
Heck no. Louisville was, by a mile. Terrible decision, but just one among many for the B12.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 2:14 pm to Cooter Davenport
And that is why I said "potentially." But you also have to ask themselves if the XII is better for them than staying in the AAC. I would think that travel costs would negate any benefit. And it isn't as if they have substantially more exposure.
Talk about being in a fricked situation.
Talk about being in a fricked situation.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 2:40 pm to The Balinese Club
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And that is why I said "potentially." But you also have to ask themselves if the XII is better for them than staying in the AAC. I would think that travel costs would negate any benefit. And it isn't as if they have substantially more exposure.
No way travel costs were anywhere near high enough to negate the additional rev from the Big 12.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 3:18 pm to Mirthomatic
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Fascinating that there are already discussions of an "SEC2".
It is already there, just no programming unless you have overflow from another ESPN channel
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:04 pm to Cheese Grits
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It is already there, just no programming unless you have overflow from another ESPN channel
That's SECN-Alt. I believe he's referring to a whole extra subscribed channel.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:16 pm to Nguyening
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I believe he's referring to a whole extra subscribed channel.
I get that, but to run a 2nd channel full time you need 24 / 7 / 365 of programming
24 * 7 * 52 = 8,736 hours of additional programming
To create demand and max revenues that will need to have maybe 50% - 75% of new and live programming.
Now you have to go to 3rd party carriers and sell it and they are not wanting to pay, especially if it is stand alone premium.
This drops you back to the same basic or near basic level where SECN resides right now, which means it probably winds up as a freebie with no real value to ESPN.
How would you see ESPN wanting to do this for the scraps of the scraps?
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:56 pm to Cheese Grits
This is what tmc said in an earlier post on pg3:
He later expanded that this might take the form of "SECN2", or perhaps an East/West split.
I guess the point is that it is precisely the abundance of content that is causing them to think about expanding. If (when) the SEC expands, there would be even greater inventory.
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They are however internally discussing expanding the channel offering as there is a lot more content being produced than SECN can air
He later expanded that this might take the form of "SECN2", or perhaps an East/West split.
I guess the point is that it is precisely the abundance of content that is causing them to think about expanding. If (when) the SEC expands, there would be even greater inventory.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 7:12 pm to Cheese Grits
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will need to have maybe 50% - 75% of new and live programming.
I think you are significantly overstating it. SECN probably has less than 10% live content as is.
There is 5X the content aired that is being produced and streamed currently. That was mostly expected however with the success and the exposure, that number is now expected to climb to maybe 10X in year two.
What wasn't expected was how easy getting distribution was and how strong the demand for the SECN+ content would be. Those two things have been the impetus for a few ideas to be floated
Posted on 7/7/15 at 1:16 pm to tmc94
Chip got fired from the radio...again 
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