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re: Sumiln to coach 2017
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:29 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:29 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Your math makes no sense. Paying two coaching staffs next year (the one we buyout and the one we hire) would cause us to spend more money in the long run by millions of dollars.
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:31 am to AggieDub14
Not if we fire him after next year. If we end up keeping him long term then you're correct, but Sumlin's buyout drops by what we owe him in salary. If we fire him after 2017 we will have the same problem after next year with paying two staffs. Maybe the buyouts of the rest of the staff drop off more, but that can't be more than a difference of a couple million
That's why if the powers that be aren't confident we can be successful next year it's dumb to keep him. You're going to have to pay two coaching staffs at some point, whether it's this year or next.
That's why if the powers that be aren't confident we can be successful next year it's dumb to keep him. You're going to have to pay two coaching staffs at some point, whether it's this year or next.
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 10:33 am
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:33 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Go fund me a new coach
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:34 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Yeah Sumlins salary is a wash regardless of when we fore him. The new head coaches salary would be additional expenses. I don't know abiut everyone else's contracts and how their buyouts work, but I'm assuming we would be paying them a good bit as well as a new staff.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:38 am to AggieDub14
Right, I guess if they were unprepared to incur that expense this year then that would be why, and they want to prepare the money for a year from now because of the nature of the buyout. But acting like there's a huge difference in total money paid if we fire him this year vs next is incorrect. It's a meme a lot of our fanbase has been rolling out the past day or so.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:40 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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That's why if the powers that be aren't confident we can be successful next year it's dumb to keep him. You're going to have to pay two coaching staffs at some point, whether it's this year or next.
It's not about paying 2 staffs. It's about how long you pay 2 staffs.
3 years if we fire him this year.
2 years if we fire him next year.
1 year if we fire him after 2018.
That's where the savings come in.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:43 am to NanosTacoRun
We owe him the money immediately. We aren't spreading the payments out. We don't have the option of paying his buyout over three years. Maybe we do with the assistants, but that savings can't be more than a couple million
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:43 am to NanosTacoRun
Could we be waiting until after next Friday, when Colorado plays Washington? (McIntyre)
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:56 am to CGSC Lobotomy
How does us firing Sumlin and staff affect CU? Unless there's a leak that indicates he has agreement in principle.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:01 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I bet we could negotiate payment ts over time if we gave more $$. 3 million a year for 6 years, he would probably take it.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:01 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
So if we buy him out, do we still own him for that time or can he get another job?
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:03 am to Old Sarge
That's fine. Stability at least. But he better exceed expectations in 2017. I'm not optimistic
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:05 am to AggieDub14
We guaranteed the contract so I assume he gets it all even if he gets another job, unless we negotiate that out in a settlement.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:07 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
He should be mowing the lawn until his contract expires.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:18 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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We owe him the money immediately. We aren't spreading the payments out. We don't have the option of paying his buyout over three years. Maybe we do with the assistants, but that savings can't be more than a couple million
Yes, but the buyout is 3 years worth of salary.
It's not a meme that we save money by retaining Sumlin. It's real, actual dollars.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:20 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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We guaranteed the contract so I assume he gets it all even if he gets another job, unless we negotiate that out in a settlement.
Unless Roger is right and we plan on making a public spectacle (which seems absurd), don't expect any negotiations. He has a fully guaranteed contract, there is no reason for him to negotiate.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:29 am to NanosTacoRun
The year that you don't buy out will be paid to him as salary next year, just not as a lump sum but over the course of a year instead.
If you fire him now vs next year, you're paying him 15 million dollars regardless. It's just a question of how you're paying it
If you fire him now vs next year, you're paying him 15 million dollars regardless. It's just a question of how you're paying it
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 11:31 am
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:05 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Nvm I'm an idiot and not thinking clearly. It's still a question of 5 mil and whatever damage next year does long term
Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:26 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
We didn't fire Sherman until 7 days after the t.u. loss.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:28 pm to Chill98
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Be honest, didn't most of you guys have A&M winning less than 8 games anyway?
I had then winning 6-8 games, after which time I wanted Sumlin fired.
I simply don't understand "But we were only expected to win 8 games" argument. It's a damning indictment that 8 wins was the expectation of our fanbase going into year 5. Sumlin is THE REASON we didn't expect anything more.
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